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This makes me want to create another Necro and buy a Zod

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atari 1614

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I wouldn't waste a Zod for just +4 Bone Spear on the shield. You can get that with Splendor on a white/grey head with +3 Bone Spear.
Would be a different story if the staff mods had rolled +3 Bone Spear and +3 Bone Spirit.

And I know no one will ever find something like this but in theory this is possible:

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atari wrote: 4 months ago
I wouldn't waste a Zod for just +4 Bone Spear on the shield. You can get that with Splendor on a white/grey head with +3 Bone Spear.
Would be a different story if the staff mods had rolled +3 Bone Spear and +3 Bone Spirit.

And I know no one will ever find something like this but in theory this is possible:

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the lower res + Decrepify though. saves 7 points on a summoner, too.
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leox 518

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
ipatrishkov wrote: 4 months ago
atari wrote: 4 months ago
I wouldn't waste a Zod for just +4 Bone Spear on the shield. You can get that with Splendor on a white/grey head with +3 Bone Spear.
Would be a different story if the staff mods had rolled +3 Bone Spear and +3 Bone Spirit.

And I know no one will ever find something like this but in theory this is possible:

Skull.png
the lower res + Decrepify though. saves 7 points on a summoner, too.
summoner need very strong lower res but doesnt need decr

curse only need 1 kind

Bone may need decr but does not need Lower Resist

unique usually have 3 skill or dark speawn with even better...

Summoner,
Darkforce Spawn or
Boneflame or
Homunculus 2 + 2

the save point way, to be honest, I dont know which use case need that . no point allocate but still need that skill useful.

Maybe some summoner Bone hybird , but I am not sure who use that. Either full Bone/poison + curse or summoner+curse hard point.

3 page hybird, maybe , I am not sure how that will be useful.


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I would also prefer a Darkforce Spawn +3 with 30 FCR or a Boneflame +3 with good all res (and both with open socket!) to your +4 Bone Spear rare without any FCR that even needs a Zod to work.
Best shield is actually a Spirit imo, but it needs a lot of points into str.

Lower Resist is a little bit helpful to a Bone Necro for the Corpse Explosion damage, but it does not buff your Bone Spear damage (which is magic).
Free Decrepify is nice, but not worth it as there are better options.
But your rare Skull might be veery strong in a challenge run (NO uniques and no runewords!)
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leox 518

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
basic need for regular summoner may look like this
+4 skill (+1 all sk +3 summon and Nova or +2 all sk , +2 specific skill, anything lower than 4 is worthless.)
p Nova, sk mage, Lower Resist
p Nova is plus , Bone may work.

The other favorite branch is Poison Nova as main, +2 all sk, p Nova and something
summoner lazy mode does not need fcr. it doesnt fight boss. it is other class job.

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ok, maybe not worth a Zod.

but can try to use it on a summoner until it breaks. it will take long time to break on a summoner

my last summoner was a hybrid with Trang Oul, so lower res worked well with Fire Wall and Corpse Explosion. Decrepify was used for boses or dangerous elites. although Attract is much better for neutralizing dangerous elites
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leox 518

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
My summoner do need skills.
Usually , I like
+2 all sk +3sk mage +3sk mas +3sk or summon related

I use it in w , swap weapon, once summon is done , swap.
A1 merc Faith, Pride myself or something like pnova.

I am not sure how to play summoner in rotw Herald. Probably not good.

summoner like this , is focus on lazy playing, not want to aim target or carefully play.

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atari wrote: 4 months ago
I wouldn't waste a Zod for just +4 Bone Spear on the shield. You can get that with Splendor on a white/grey head with +3 Bone Spear.
Would be a different story if the staff mods had rolled +3 Bone Spear and +3 Bone Spirit.

And I know no one will ever find something like this but in theory this is possible:

Skull.png
As sexy as this looks, correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only way it's possible to reach the 125% fcr breakpoint with no fcr in the offhand is having fcr in the chest. That means no Enigma and at least 1 less to all skills which would make this off hand only +1 Bone Spear and Bone Spirit better than Darkforce Spawn in exchange for no Teleport. If I had this I probably wouldn't use it tbh
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Bonemancer IMO need +3 to Bone Spear and at least 1 point to Revive. Such head worth making sockets with Larzuk quest to make Splendor or Rhyme .
Having Decrepify or Lower Resist is good, but can live without it. Amplify and Bone Prison usually enough. Clay Golem slows bosses nicely .
Summoner and Novamancer have enough hard points to put in all curses.
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leox 518

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
choma90 wrote: 4 months ago
atari wrote: 4 months ago
I wouldn't waste a Zod for just +4 Bone Spear on the shield. You can get that with Splendor on a white/grey head with +3 Bone Spear.
Would be a different story if the staff mods had rolled +3 Bone Spear and +3 Bone Spirit.

And I know no one will ever find something like this but in theory this is possible:

Skull.png
As sexy as this looks, correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only way it's possible to reach the 125% fcr breakpoint with no fcr in the offhand is having fcr in the chest. That means no Enigma and at least 1 less to all skills which would make this off hand only +1 Bone Spear and Bone Spirit better than Darkforce Spawn in exchange for no Teleport. If I had this I probably wouldn't use it tbh
amulet can roll Teleport

the other way, maxroll says, Griffon's Eye , 20 fcr amulet

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ipatrishkov wrote: 4 months ago
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Nasty find! congrats :)

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ipatrishkov wrote: 4 months ago
atari wrote: 4 months ago
I wouldn't waste a Zod for just +4 Bone Spear on the shield. You can get that with Splendor on a white/grey head with +3 Bone Spear.
Would be a different story if the staff mods had rolled +3 Bone Spear and +3 Bone Spirit.

And I know no one will ever find something like this but in theory this is possible:

Skull.png
the lower res + Decrepify though. saves 7 points on a summoner, too.
been sitting on this for a long time though, i ended up getting a Death's Web. always enjoy checking out the White Wand drops!
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leox 518

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
choma90 wrote: 4 months ago
atari wrote: 4 months ago
I wouldn't waste a Zod for just +4 Bone Spear on the shield. You can get that with Splendor on a white/grey head with +3 Bone Spear.
Would be a different story if the staff mods had rolled +3 Bone Spear and +3 Bone Spirit.

And I know no one will ever find something like this but in theory this is possible:

Skull.png
As sexy as this looks, correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only way it's possible to reach the 125% fcr breakpoint with no fcr in the offhand is having fcr in the chest. That means no Enigma and at least 1 less to all skills which would make this off hand only +1 Bone Spear and Bone Spirit better than Darkforce Spawn in exchange for no Teleport. If I had this I probably wouldn't use it tbh
his use case may be Splendor 2os 3/3/3 staff mod, fcr amulet, Enigma

armor shield
Enigma Splendor normal_doll 333 vs Enigma darkforce spawn3/3/3 30 fcr

I agree with you, it is only 1 skill beat with Enigma both side. But raise so high requirement, nec , dual fcr roll.

Very hard to get, difficult to build and performance is almost none.(+1 , in most case it is 0)

Darkforce Spawn almost beat all, only 1 lose case, that makes normal 2os offhand almost surely lose.

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leox 518

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
I run my summoner again.

peak summon: 87 monsters + 1 (me) in our side vs theirs....

kind of fun and lazy play but it is surely slow and safe.

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choma90 wrote: 4 months ago
atari wrote: 4 months ago
I wouldn't waste a Zod for just +4 Bone Spear on the shield. You can get that with Splendor on a white/grey head with +3 Bone Spear.
Would be a different story if the staff mods had rolled +3 Bone Spear and +3 Bone Spirit.

And I know no one will ever find something like this but in theory this is possible:

Skull.png
As sexy as this looks, correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only way it's possible to reach the 125% fcr breakpoint with no fcr in the offhand is having fcr in the chest. That means no Enigma and at least 1 less to all skills which would make this off hand only +1 Bone Spear and Bone Spirit better than Darkforce Spawn in exchange for no Teleport. If I had this I probably wouldn't use it tbh
It's doable but you would need a Diadem with good rolls and a Caster Amulet with good rolls.

Rings: 10% x2 ( Sling, Opalvein)
Belts: 20% ( Arachnid Mesh or Gheed's Wager)
Gloves: 20% ( Trang-Oul's Claws)
Weapon: 25% ( Boneshade)

This is 85% which means you only need 40% more.

Rare Diadem or Caster Amulet can roll 20% FCR. So you need those to hit 125%. This part will not be cheap though if you want a good one. Boom, 125% without armor or offhand. Enigma still available + Any offhand.

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leox 518

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
I dont know why but these days , people use White rune word.
it is +8 Bone Spear +6 Bone Spirit +3 ig

But your conclusion still hold.

Also this is trade off. 30% dark force vs 10% Splendor, 20% fcr to 1 skill.

or
30% dark force vs 0% rare shield
30% vs 0 fcr 2 skill

I am not familiar with Bone....some of you guys might have better understanding in this. Like skill over fcr or magic resistance.

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AlphaJackal wrote: 4 months ago
choma90 wrote: 4 months ago
atari wrote: 4 months ago
I wouldn't waste a Zod for just +4 Bone Spear on the shield. You can get that with Splendor on a white/grey head with +3 Bone Spear.
Would be a different story if the staff mods had rolled +3 Bone Spear and +3 Bone Spirit.

And I know no one will ever find something like this but in theory this is possible:

Skull.png
As sexy as this looks, correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only way it's possible to reach the 125% fcr breakpoint with no fcr in the offhand is having fcr in the chest. That means no Enigma and at least 1 less to all skills which would make this off hand only +1 Bone Spear and Bone Spirit better than Darkforce Spawn in exchange for no Teleport. If I had this I probably wouldn't use it tbh
It's doable but you would need a Diadem with good rolls and a Caster Amulet with good rolls.

Rings: 10% x2 ( Sling, Opalvein)
Belts: 20% ( Arachnid Mesh or Gheed's Wager)
Gloves: 20% ( Trang-Oul's Claws)
Weapon: 25% ( Boneshade)

This is 85% which means you only need 40% more.

Rare Diadem or Caster Amulet can roll 20% FCR. So you need those to hit 125%. This part will not be cheap though if you want a good one. Boom, 125% without armor or offhand. Enigma still available + Any offhand.
Honestly I wasn't even considering any weapon other than White with its 20 fcr

I don't know what is a rarer if a good enough White base or a perfect Boneshade, but I guess if we're theorizing having that offhand we could theorize having every single piece of equipment being a perfect roll so fair why not. And even in this perfect scenario that's still equal Bone Spear level for both things. The only nitpick I have to make is the off hand would need to have Decrepify instead of Iron Golem or else White with decrep wins no contest.

Still the point stands that I wouldn't use it if I had it because I don't have perfect everything else lol
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leox 518

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
Agree, it cost too much to build and return so small.

if conclusion hold, that makes all rare vodoll shield fail.

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