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Cant Even Believe This Happened - Lost My Best Item When Dying Twice - Absolute disaster!

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Schnorki wrote: 3 days ago
Slapshot wrote: 3 days ago
[..]
I have no idea where that information was even gathered from, but I have never even remotely had that many
Jah
's and certainly didn't pay those prices. And who would I report it to?
[..]
After a trade is completed, the seller/trade owner closes it out and as part of that is able to enter both, the buyer and the price paid.
In this case, you have been listed as the buyer and both, the helmet and the shield were listed as sold to you for 3
Jah
each. So 6
Jah
total.
In both cases, that would've been a massive over-pay, hence my earlier comment.

If a trade gets closed with you supposedly paying xyz amount and that amount is not accurate (as you say is the case here), that should be reported to one of the moderators so we can step in and correct the pricing to avoid it misleading people in the price history here.
I somewhat feel violated that this information was gathered and posted without any knowledge whatsoever by me. I suppose, in the end, its not a big deal, but I believed that I was entering into a private trade with someone I connected with in this forum. Nothing ever indicated that such things were monitored and reported on. And I am certainly not stupid enough to have overpaid by that amount, trust me. I had exactly two
Jah
's to my name when I entered the game to make the deal. Does that make what I paid clear enough? My remaining question is what possible reason that the seller would have for reporting such inaccurate information.
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Slapshot wrote: 5 hours ago
Schnorki wrote: 3 days ago
Slapshot wrote: 3 days ago
[..]
I have no idea where that information was even gathered from, but I have never even remotely had that many
Jah
's and certainly didn't pay those prices. And who would I report it to?
[..]
After a trade is completed, the seller/trade owner closes it out and as part of that is able to enter both, the buyer and the price paid.
In this case, you have been listed as the buyer and both, the helmet and the shield were listed as sold to you for 3
Jah
each. So 6
Jah
total.
In both cases, that would've been a massive over-pay, hence my earlier comment.

If a trade gets closed with you supposedly paying xyz amount and that amount is not accurate (as you say is the case here), that should be reported to one of the moderators so we can step in and correct the pricing to avoid it misleading people in the price history here.
I somewhat feel violated that this information was gathered and posted without any knowledge whatsoever by me. I suppose, in the end, its not a big deal, but I believed that I was entering into a private trade with someone I connected with in this forum. Nothing ever indicated that such things were monitored and reported on. And I am certainly not stupid enough to have overpaid by that amount, trust me. I had exactly two
Jah
's to my name when I entered the game to make the deal. Does that make what I paid clear enough? My remaining question is what possible reason that the seller would have for reporting such inaccurate information.
This is a public trading forum: trades are posted, bids are placed, deals are completed and prices marked in full transparency, for the benefit of the community. Nothing to feel violated about!

However, I was curious, and it seems you created a topic looking for advice on building a Paladin, in which the seller offered you their Dreams if you DM them, is that right? You never posted an offer for these items in a trade thread, you arranged via DM? In which case, presumably the seller created trade threads after the fact in order to record the price and exchange trust. So yes, the only question really is where the listed prices come from if they are not what you paid.

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oOKIWIOo 1852

RotW Paladin Europe PC
Slapshot wrote: 5 hours ago
I somewhat feel violated that this information was gathered and posted without any knowledge whatsoever by me.
Hm... I thought you get a notification if someone marks you in a trade as the buyer when completing it. @ShadowHeart or any other mod: Isn't this the case?
If not I think this would indeed be problematic because then anyone could complete a trade with me as a buyer (and with wrong information) and I don't notice any of it at all.

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ShadowHeart 5893Moderator

RotW Paladin Europe PC Playstation
oOKIWIOo wrote: 1 hour ago
Hm... I thought you get a notification if someone marks you in a trade as the buyer when completing it. @ShadowHeart or any other mod: Isn't this the case?
If not I think this would indeed be problematic because then anyone could complete a trade with me as a buyer (and with wrong information) and I don't notice any of it at all.
I just created a test trade listing and marked you as buyer. Were you notified?

I'm in CET (Central European Time)
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
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ShadowHeart wrote: 1 hour ago
I just created a test trade listing and marked you as buyer. Were you notified?
You don't (and never did) get notified of a completed trade, even in your name, unless you watched it.
Anyone can credit a trade to anyone without the other party knowing.

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ShadowHeart 5893Moderator

RotW Paladin Europe PC Playstation
Queegon wrote: 1 hour ago
You don't (and never did) get notified of a completed trade, even in your name, unless you watched it.
Anyone can credit a trade to anyone without the other party knowing.
Thanks. Guess that would explain why @Slapshot never realized that he was picked as the buyer with the wrong payment, as the trade was conducted via DM. Seems like an attempt at market manipulation by the seller in this case...

I'm in CET (Central European Time)
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
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ShadowHeart wrote: 1 hour ago

Thanks. Guess that would explain why @Slapshot never realized that he was picked as the buyer with the wrong payment, as the trade was conducted via DM. Seems like an attempt at market manipulation by the seller in this case...
While this sucks, something broke and the descriptions in sold and bought are no longer transcribed upon hovering into a text bubble. Can't check descriptions now. @Teebling ?

Seller was clearly selling double Dream and wanted 3
Jah
eachb (maybe, maybe not, who cares), the trade was put up for almost 2 days, so unlikely they created them for the sole reason to sell to slapshot. Slapshot just came around and showed interested in the items. Seller marked them as pricier than they were. Porbably an oversight rather than market manipulation since they no longer sell more dreams. ;)

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Can trade on LoD, RotW, and Ladder/Non-Ladder
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ShadowHeart 5893Moderator

RotW Paladin Europe PC Playstation
Queegon wrote: 1 hour ago
Porbably an oversight rather than market manipulation since they no longer sell more dreams. ;)
So unintentional market manipulation then? :P
(everyone can see these trades in the trade history after all)

I'm in CET (Central European Time)
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
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oOKIWIOo 1852

RotW Paladin Europe PC
ShadowHeart wrote: 1 hour ago
oOKIWIOo wrote: 1 hour ago
Hm... I thought you get a notification if someone marks you in a trade as the buyer when completing it. @ShadowHeart or any other mod: Isn't this the case?
If not I think this would indeed be problematic because then anyone could complete a trade with me as a buyer (and with wrong information) and I don't notice any of it at all.
I just created a test trade listing and marked you as buyer. Were you notified?
Nope, nothing... But I think it is adviseable to add this "feature"... 🙂

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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Schnorki 4881Moderator

RotW PC
oOKIWIOo wrote: 1 hour ago
Slapshot wrote: 5 hours ago
I somewhat feel violated that this information was gathered and posted without any knowledge whatsoever by me.
Hm... I thought you get a notification if someone marks you in a trade as the buyer when completing it. [..]
Gotta admit, I thought so, too.

Went ahead and added a suggestion for teebs to hopefully get that added to avoid cases like this in the future (rare as they may be).
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