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Hi,
I lost my second paladin smiter (hardcore) to
Lilith
, in another one shot.


Life : 2100 after bo
Res : 80/85/80/75 (overcaped)
Def : 19000
PDR : 30 % (
Fade
proced)
Max block 75 %

My stuff was
Guillem
Grief
Exhile
Smoke (treatchery)
Verdungo 15%
Amu
Teleport

Gore Rider

Loh
Raven

Torch
...

There was adds with fanatism, but no cursed, i wasn t amped, see the picture.
I wasn t running, i teleported and smited

Is it normal to get one shot with such stuff, life and PDR ?

It mean she hitted me at like 3100-3500 before PDR ??????? wtf
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Hi,
I lost my second paladin smiter (hardcore) to
Lilith
, in another one shot.


Life : 2100 after bo
Res : 80/85/80/75 (overcaped)
Def : 19000
PDR : 30 % (
Fade
proced)
Max block 75 %

My stuff was
Guillem
Grief
Exhile
Smoke (treatchery)
Verdungo 15%
Amu
Teleport

Gore Rider

Loh
Raven

Torch
...

There was adds with fanatism, but no cursed, i wasn t amped, see the picture.
I wasn t running, i teleported and smited

Is it normal to get one shot with such stuff, life and PDR ?

It mean she hitted me at like 3100-3500 before PDR ??????? wtf
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does
Lilith
attack ignore block/defense like doll explosion and harpy projectile?

fighting her with a barb and 3000 hp her attacks would take more than half my life pool, so 2000 damage (with a crit) seems possible...

HC RotW
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You only had 1230 life. Looks like your BO didn't take. I use a BO barb and it sometimes takes many shouts before it takes effect. I've lost a HC smiter the same way to
Lilith
.

Edit: My mistake, your BO no longer shows when you die. It still could have been that unless you know that you verified that your BO was in effect.
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A bit late, but don't ever fight mini-ubers with
Fanaticism
active. You'll have a bad time.

Even with 3.7k life after BO they still can knock off 1500+ hp easily. Also the projectiles the harpies shoot are deadly af.
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With the harpies in there, it's also possible that you got amped 1 frame before
Lilith
scored a crit on you so you never saw the amp.
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pyropy wrote: 4 hours ago
You only had 1230 life. Looks like your BO didn't take. I use a BO barb and it sometimes takes many shouts before it takes effect. I've lost a HC smiter the same way to
Lilith
.

Edit: My mistake, your BO no longer shows when you die. It still could have been that unless you know that you verified that your BO was in effect.
The screenshot is after Death, most likely wont show the bo health anymore.
But ive also noticed that the bo's etc. barb buffs wont apply always and its quite annoying. Same goes to some warlock buffing, can
Consume
demon for example and the buff wont appear or it wont refresh already worn buff timer.
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Fanaticism
more than doubles
Lilith
's damage, who can already crit for well over 1k damage without
Fanaticism
active. So a one shot is entirely possible in this situation with only 2100 life.
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OP
pyropy wrote: 4 hours ago
You only had 1230 life. Looks like your BO didn't take. I use a BO barb and it sometimes takes many shouts before it takes effect. I've lost a HC smiter the same way to
Lilith
.

Edit: My mistake, your BO no longer shows when you die. It still could have been that unless you know that you verified that your BO was in effect.
I was under bo 100 % sure

I ve been obliterated with end game gear like a piece of shxt
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I mean, the game has its fair share of one hit
Ko
methods which are almost unavoidable at times. Fought
Uber Baal
with my paladin in nonladder first time and it almost clapped my pally. Though it was hammerdin, not a smiter. So im going to assume all the uber related creatures have some kind of close to one hit
Ko
attacks, you know things which ignore its huge chunk of resistances and/or def or such.
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Schnorki 4810Moderator

RotW PC
520-572 base
+ what would be a lvl 10 fana from the mobs around here
= 1134-1247
As a crit, that'd be 2268-2494 so absolutely 1-shot territory at 2.1k life without significant phys reduction, with or without amp and not considering any add or poison dmg.
No bugs involved.

With your 30% red, that'd still be 1587 to 1745 which is close enough to where poison + adds hitting will look like a 1-shot even though it isn't.
Plus a last second amp will make it a 1-shot.

You really should stop fighting her with amping adds still alive, let alone fana'd or mighted amping adds.
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Digging into Schnorki's numbers a bit and I'm even a bit surprised at how deadly that combination is. You're highly likely to get amped at some point and then it's not just the lucky crit that will get you, every hit is in one shot territory. This really reinforces my slow approach to her and getting everything cleared out before. I stopped the
Lilith
quickies after my HC smiter got one-shotted by her.
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OP
Schnorki wrote: 4 hours ago
520-572 base
+ what would be a lvl 10 fana from the mobs around here
= 1134-1247
As a crit, that'd be 2268-2494 so absolutely 1-shot territory at 2.1k life without significant phys reduction, with or without amp and not considering any add or poison dmg.
No bugs involved.

With your 30% red, that'd still be 1587 to 1745 which is close enough to where poison + adds hitting will look like a 1-shot even though it isn't.
Plus a last second amp will make it a 1-shot.

You really should stop fighting her with amping adds still alive, let alone fana'd or mighted amping adds.
Yes i think i ll clean her slowly taunting adds one by one now.
I was feeling confident with my expensive stuff

I never died to
Uber Mephisto
....
Lilith
is THE real Uber,
Mephisto
is a piece of cake compared to her
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Not sure what it is about the
Baal
, it just one shots my echo wlock. Other ones go down just fine.
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Schnorki 4810Moderator

RotW PC
Semirotta wrote: 2 hours ago
Not sure what it is about the
Baal
, it just one shots my echo wlock. Other ones go down just fine.
Chilling Armor
, same as
Izual
. Gets procced like crazy by echo locks. Just park your demon between you and
Baal
and you're good as he'll soak up all of the armor projectiles.
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Schnorki wrote: 2 hours ago
Semirotta wrote: 2 hours ago
Not sure what it is about the
Baal
, it just one shots my echo wlock. Other ones go down just fine.
Chilling Armor
, same as
Izual
. Gets procced like crazy by echo locks. Just park your demon between you and
Baal
and you're good as he'll soak up all of the armor projectiles.
Oh holy fudge! I had no idea it even had
Chilling Armor
, im killing the ubers for a friend and these are first times doing these demons at all :'D
Thank you for that bit of info, now just to remember that. I was like wtf is killing me instantly as I begin attacking, now it all makes sense. Even said its hard to
Dodge
something I cant see, absolutely hilarious.
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For
Uber Baal
, an ES Warlock needs cold absorb.
Snowclash
,
Raven Frost
etc
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