Ned Your Expertise On Building An Uber Powerful Paladin Withing My Constraints

This is not a class I am familiar with (excepting my time in World Of Warcraft long ago). I had started to build a Hammerdin, because several guides rated is as tremendously powerful. But I soon realized that you just kept casting

Blessed Hammer spells at an adversary and thats simply boring. I'm fine using auras to benefit damage, but want the actual weapon I hold in my hand to do damage when I whack things with it. Is there a powerful paladin build suitable for heavy Hell level use, farming etc, that utilizes both physically induced damage via my weapon, and auras/spells etc. to combine for major damage?

One person in a

Baal run suggested a Dragondin with

Zeal, but again, I don't know Paladins and could really use real life advice from those of you who have high level Pallys and real life experience with them. Thanks for any help in steering me in the right direction when I respec fairly soon.

https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/fist-of-th ... ns-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/dream-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/zeal-paladin
These are 3 alternatives if you don't like hammerdin

I personally like the Dream Paladin build
Makes use of dmg with an aura

Holy Shock &

Zeal with your weapon

Slapshot wrote: 22 hours ago

Is there a powerful paladin build suitable for heavy Hell level use, farming etc, that utilizes both physically induced damage via my weapon, and auras/spells etc. to combine for major damage?

Physical damage plus damaging aura: Dream Paladin (

Holy Shock) or Dragon Paladin (

Holy Fire) combined with

Zeal.

the Dream and Dragon paladins are VERY expensive.

i would save ur pennies and eventually make or buy a Grief in a

Phase Blade.

in the mean time buy

The Redeemer, i use that on my hammer paladin. good melee weapon but also has +2 skills for added hammer damage. u only need around 5 or so points in

Zeal to max out at 5 hits. u might get that from +skill items.

mikelessar wrote: 22 hours ago

Physical damage plus damaging aura: Dream Paladin (

Holy Shock) or Dragon Paladin (

Holy Fire) combined with

Zeal.

The Dragon Paladin that is referred to is this one
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/holy-fire-paladin

TimeSlayer wrote: 21 hours ago

the Dream and Dragon paladins are VERY expensive.

i would save ur pennies and eventually make or buy a Grief in a

Phase Blade.

in the mean time buy

The Redeemer, i use that on my hammer paladin. good melee weapon but also has +2 skills for added hammer damage. u only need around 5 or so points in

Zeal to max out at 5 hits. u might get that from +skill items.

He does not want to play hammers, neither does he want to play pure melee or pure spell caster. He wants a mix of direct hit damage and spell damage. He has clearly said that.

That only leaves Dream and Dragon. Yes, they are expensive but maybe OP has the budget for it.

Thanks to everyone for your thoughts on this. I greatly appreciate it. The Dream Paladin certainly looks interesting, and I think I could afford it. My only concern is that neither the Dream Paladin or the Dragon Paladin are even listed in recommended top endgame builds from Maxroll and Icy Veins?

https://maxroll.gg/d4/tierlists/paladin ... -tier-list

https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/paladin/builds/

Slapshot wrote: 15 hours ago

Thanks to everyone for your thoughts on this. I greatly appreciate it. The Dream Paladin certainly looks interesting, and I think I could afford it. My only concern is that neither the Dream Paladin or the Dragon Paladin are even listed in recommended top endgame builds from Maxroll and Icy Veins?

https://maxroll.gg/d4/tierlists/paladin ... -tier-list

https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/paladin/builds/

ur looking at diablo 4 not 2.

do u have multiple

Jah? it takes 3 to really shine.

https://maxroll.gg/d2/tierlists/overall-tier-list

For what its worth I also started out as hammerdi nbecause of the guides saying its S tier but did not really like the playstyle.

Ended up going Dream and quite liked it and the ability to swap some gear and

Smite ubers to Death. It is quite high investment but it works really well.

I am now on a

Frozen Orb sorc back to my origins from 23 years ago when I played as a teen.

Considering making my Pally a full

Smite build just for ubers / dclones now.

But overall based on what you have said I recommend Dream Pally for sure.

It looks like you want to build mix solution.
In overall performance, it max skill point use.

Remember to run maxroll to find out best damage solution for mix build.

Like , pure physical , it need exceed 14200 damage. Mix solution may need go down 1 damage layer, maybe 10000-12000 and make use of light damage. I don't know the exact setup , charms , points in str, you need to use maxroll to run your exact scenario and use token to optimize it.

In 1p,
sometimes increase max/min damage, +1 skill, + ED will not change your performance.

In my case, physical paladin, 13000 damage. Increase ED or min-max damage , or use new physical jewel. -phy resistance. will not change performance.
It will act like you not have that. similar to ias breakpoint story.

Of course, it will work if you play 2p 3p or more.

Sorry for the wrong links, it was late when I posted. Thank you for the correction. From a quick reading the Maxroll guide for the Dream paladin, it appears you will ideally need TWO Dream word rune sets. One for the

Helm, and one for the shield. What

Helm and shields are best suited for this use?

Vortex Shield and

Bone Helm are my go to s. Shield doesn't matter as much because you'll have

Holy Shield active.

I have a hammerdin, a smiter, a tesladin/Dream and a fohdin all maxed with BiS gear.

My favourite to simply mess around and rush is probably tesladin, unless there are more than 3 players as it really drops off.

Hammerdin is king all around for general clearing. Great with P8 cows etc.

Fohdin is stronger for targeted farming. CS/AS/

Key Farming/Boss Clears are all way better. Also clears faster than Hammerdin.

Smiter is nice for boss killing. Also Ancients and obviously Ubers.

Slapshot wrote: 7 hours ago

Sorry for the wrong links, it was late when I posted. Thank you for the correction. From a quick reading the Maxroll guide for the Dream paladin, it appears you will ideally need TWO Dream word rune sets. One for the

Helm, and one for the shield. What

Helm and shields are best suited for this use?

Bone Visage &

Sacred Targe with +40 all resist in my opinion

TheSoulReaver wrote: 22 hours ago

https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/fist-of-th ... ns-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/dream-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/zeal-paladin
These are 3 alternatives if you don't like hammerdin

I personally like the Dream Paladin build
Makes use of dmg with an aura

Holy Shock &

Zeal with your weapon

I would not recommend those guides. Especially the Dream Pala Guide has some debatable equipment choices and overall recommendations.

Marlex wrote: 4 hours ago

TheSoulReaver wrote: 22 hours ago

https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/fist-of-th ... ns-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/dream-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/zeal-paladin
These are 3 alternatives if you don't like hammerdin

I personally like the Dream Paladin build
Makes use of dmg with an aura

Holy Shock &

Zeal with your weapon

I would not recommend those guides. Especially the Dream Pala Guide has some debatable equipment choices and overall recommendations.

Down at the bottom of those guides there are alternatives to every gear piece
At the top is the most expensive & BiS

Morgormir wrote: 7 hours ago

Vortex Shield and

Bone Helm are my go to s. Shield doesn't matter as much because you'll have

Holy Shield active.

I have a hammerdin, a smiter, a tesladin/Dream and a fohdin all maxed with BiS gear.

My favourite to simply mess around and rush is probably tesladin, unless there are more than 3 players as it really drops off.

Hammerdin is king all around for general clearing. Great with P8 cows etc.

Fohdin is stronger for targeted farming. CS/AS/

Key Farming/Boss Clears are all way better. Also clears faster than Hammerdin.

Smiter is nice for boss killing. Also Ancients and obviously Ubers.

Thanks for the recommendations for

Vortex Shield and

Bone Helm, both look good, but I'll need a shield and

Helm that has three sockets (or at least something

Larzuk can make into three sockets) for two Dream runewords. Was wondering what to use for that purpose.

Slapshot wrote: 2 hours ago

Morgormir wrote: 7 hours ago

Vortex Shield and

Bone Helm are my go to s. Shield doesn't matter as much because you'll have

Holy Shield active.

I have a hammerdin, a smiter, a tesladin/Dream and a fohdin all maxed with BiS gear.

My favourite to simply mess around and rush is probably tesladin, unless there are more than 3 players as it really drops off.

Hammerdin is king all around for general clearing. Great with P8 cows etc.

Fohdin is stronger for targeted farming. CS/AS/

Key Farming/Boss Clears are all way better. Also clears faster than Hammerdin.

Smiter is nice for boss killing. Also Ancients and obviously Ubers.

Thanks for the recommendations for

Vortex Shield and

Bone Helm, both look good, but I'll need a shield and

Helm that has three sockets (or at least something

Larzuk can make into three sockets) for two Dream runewords. Was wondering what to use for that purpose.

Larzuk tends to make shields into 4 sockets

"

Larzuk tends to make shields into 4 sockets"......thats what I thought. Any recommendations on where to come up with 3 socket shields or helms for the Dream runewords? I now have the runes in hand and ready.