My first full key set!

Also, got a 12/20 Barb torch (about the only character I'm not interested in!)

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Phreekz wrote: 14 hours ago

Also, got a 12/20 Barb torch (about the only character I'm not interested in!)

I've got an 18/20 Assassin torch yesterday. Wanna trade?

AimedNuu wrote: 11 hours ago

Phreekz wrote: 14 hours ago

Also, got a 12/20 Barb torch (about the only character I'm not interested in!)

I've got an 18/20 Assassin torch yesterday. Wanna trade?

That's the other one I don't really play! Cheers for the offer though.

Assassin, druid and barb. Not really played them since 1.09.

My experience as an Uber farmer by day, crime fighter by night;

I save up keys, I find items to trade for keys, trade for 3x3 sets or individual keys. Point is to have multiple organs to eventually run through. RNG being RNG, if you do only 3-5 Ubers the odds are you wont get the torch you want. This last run I did I actually wanted a Warlock torch for a new ES Warlock (I gave up on ladder so made a NL).

Out of 28 Uber runs, only 3x were Warlock. Some time ago I was hoping for an Amazon, did 15 and only got 1x torch (thats all I needed though).

• Watch some of the videos on Youtube, the general tactic is to follow a set path to draw Meph out and to only take Meph down alone. With a Pally with full resists Meph can still be tough.

• Having Uber health is ideal; Barb BO or CTA at least.

• After Meph, follow the path to try draw
  Baal out. All 3x have summons, but only one has summons that are immune to physical. If you take down
  Baal, you can run a path to get away from any remaining sumons to go after D. Diablo's summons are made of glass if you are Pally/Warlock ES.

• Tough thing about a Warlock, if you die you lose the binded demon. I found this experience to be frustrating when doing Uber Ancients. I had to go to Throne room to grab new Wave 5 minions. Toughest part is that your demon can take on the Uber and the Ubers attention will in turn be on your demon. But the spawned minions will go after you. Merc + 2 additional spawns from you helps, but be prepared to be shooting them as well as you might need to gain back some life.

• Do not hesitate for a second to ask for help, there are so many that will be willing to jump in for the fun & challenge. As the keys or statues take effort and time, this is an activity one can not do too often. So there are many (like myself) that would love every opportunity to help out when called. I like many would love the opportunity to whack Meph around some.

Personally found that Uber Meph is really the only true challenge. The

Conviction & light is devastating.

I did use my ES Warlock (after I got a torch from Ubers) to try Uber Ancients, and well it was only so-so. Yes the Warlock is "OP" in some areas, but it really is not in others. I did about 8 of the Ancients and used my Pally for 4. Did better with Pally Smiter/Zealer than ES.

Izual mini-Uber took down my Warlock in 1 shot. For mini-Ubers, Uber Trist, and Ancients I found the Pally to just have better overall survivability & killing power. Part of that is the gearing, Dracs vs

Magefist lol. Exile or HOZ vs Warlock book. The

Key really was the multiple gear items for the Pally all help with resists, where lot of the gear for the Warlock did not. While I could gear up the Warlock similar, I ended up still subpar to the Pally. Now this is just me, my playstyle, and I am sure others can make significantly better ES Warlock than I ever could.

sbn wrote: 10 hours ago

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I did use my ES Warlock (after I got a torch from Ubers) to try Uber Ancients, and well it was only so-so. Yes the Warlock is "OP" in some areas, but it really is not in others. I did about 8 of the Ancients and used my Pally for 4. Did better with Pally Smiter/Zealer than ES.

Izual mini-Uber took down my Warlock in 1 shot. For mini-Ubers, Uber Trist, and Ancients I found the Pally to just have better overall survivability & killing power. Part of that is the gearing, Dracs vs

Magefist lol. Exile or HOZ vs Warlock book. The

Key really was the multiple gear items for the Pally all help with resists, where lot of the gear for the Warlock did not. While I could gear up the Warlock similar, I ended up still subpar to the Pally. Now this is just me, my playstyle, and I am sure others can make significantly better ES Warlock than I ever could.

Yeah, that's a good mention.
When i run Ubers with ES Lock I also use Dracs just like Paladin (and try to maximize life leech on items where i can), because 75 fcr is enough there and it's easy to get with Vipermagi (

Um) + Spirit + Arach.
And speaking of Spirit: I consider it better than unique book for ES Warlock overall and use it everywhere. Especially 35fcr roll gives a lot of room for many different gear setups.

Add to that any res and/or life charms (i mean really anything) and you get easy 3k+ life after BO and

Consume with 50%+ damage redirected to your demon. You're close to immortal.

Bisu wrote: 17 hours ago

ThisGuyThatGuy wrote: 19 hours ago

Congrats on the set, and killer timing on the thread - i just got my 3x3 and am in a similar position, though worked on resistances tonight and made a Treachery also (feels weird to stand in a fire to proc it).

My damage is at 46k before Might merc aura kicks in, plus I have big boy Heph with cursed and

Fanaticism, so damage output feels okay. Only at 75% frame

Cap whilst maxed with res, but I have a

Raven Frost and a carrion wing to switch and a whole bunch of life and mana leech.

I found a rare

Throwing Knife with 50 odd charges of lvl5

Life Tap on it, so i feel covered on that front, and naj's staff for better/no delay

Teleport. Got some options for open wounds.

After reading all the advice above, i'm definitely gonna give the mini ubers a go tomorrow.

Good luck and report back on how you get on, Phreeks!

With your level of dps, you don't need to use

Life Tap or open wounds etc at all. Just shoot ES at them. Any mini uber and individual final ubers should die within ~15 seconds, if not even quicker. That's just how OP the ES Warlock build is. =)

Thanks, that's real good to know! I did totally nuke Uber diablo in under 3 seconds, which was a wild and confusing way to get an Anni, and left me thinking what 3x3 would be like.

sbn wrote: 10 hours ago

My experience as an Uber farmer by day, crime fighter by night;

I save up keys, I find items to trade for keys, trade for 3x3 sets or individual keys. Point is to have multiple organs to eventually run through. RNG being RNG, if you do only 3-5 Ubers the odds are you wont get the torch you want. This last run I did I actually wanted a Warlock torch for a new ES Warlock (I gave up on ladder so made a NL).

Out of 28 Uber runs, only 3x were Warlock. Some time ago I was hoping for an Amazon, did 15 and only got 1x torch (thats all I needed though).

• Watch some of the videos on Youtube, the general tactic is to follow a set path to draw Meph out and to only take Meph down alone. With a Pally with full resists Meph can still be tough.

• Having Uber health is ideal; Barb BO or CTA at least.

• After Meph, follow the path to try draw
  Baal out. All 3x have summons, but only one has summons that are immune to physical. If you take down
  Baal, you can run a path to get away from any remaining sumons to go after D. Diablo's summons are made of glass if you are Pally/Warlock ES.

• Tough thing about a Warlock, if you die you lose the binded demon. I found this experience to be frustrating when doing Uber Ancients. I had to go to Throne room to grab new Wave 5 minions. Toughest part is that your demon can take on the Uber and the Ubers attention will in turn be on your demon. But the spawned minions will go after you. Merc + 2 additional spawns from you helps, but be prepared to be shooting them as well as you might need to gain back some life.

• Do not hesitate for a second to ask for help, there are so many that will be willing to jump in for the fun & challenge. As the keys or statues take effort and time, this is an activity one can not do too often. So there are many (like myself) that would love every opportunity to help out when called. I like many would love the opportunity to whack Meph around some.

Personally found that Uber Meph is really the only true challenge. The

Conviction & light is devastating.

I did use my ES Warlock (after I got a torch from Ubers) to try Uber Ancients, and well it was only so-so. Yes the Warlock is "OP" in some areas, but it really is not in others. I did about 8 of the Ancients and used my Pally for 4. Did better with Pally Smiter/Zealer than ES.

Izual mini-Uber took down my Warlock in 1 shot. For mini-Ubers, Uber Trist, and Ancients I found the Pally to just have better overall survivability & killing power. Part of that is the gearing, Dracs vs

Magefist lol. Exile or HOZ vs Warlock book. The

Key really was the multiple gear items for the Pally all help with resists, where lot of the gear for the Warlock did not. While I could gear up the Warlock similar, I ended up still subpar to the Pally. Now this is just me, my playstyle, and I am sure others can make significantly better ES Warlock than I ever could.

Yeah... I got one shotted by Izzy last night. Lost my favourite Hephasto. Bummer.

Phreekz wrote: 8 hours ago

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Yeah... I got one shotted by Izzy last night. Lost my favourite Hephasto. Bummer.

Uber Izual and

Baal can use something similar to Sorc

Chilling Armor, with the effect of "Confers a defense bonus and launches an

Ice Bolt against ranged attackers. "

I've never verified the data myself, but some sources say each

Ice Bolt can deal ~300 cold damage. When using

Echoing Strike, the first 5 strikes always hit, then when they return, let's say 3 out of 5 strikes hit again, so that's 8 hits per cast, resulting 8 Ice

Bolts. If your bound demon or merc weren't there to block out those

Bolts and you took them all, then that would easily be 300 x 8 = ~2400 cold damage from one round a

Echoing Strike.

Let's say you are at the 75 FCR breakpoint, then that's 2.5 casts per second, which means each second you could trigger 2400 x 2.5 = ~6k cold damage. If you have 75% Cold resistance, then you will take ~1.5k damage. When not paying attention, within two seconds your HP could already hit the red line.

This is why we use

Raven Frost or

Snowclash.

Using

Snowclash as an example. When you equip it and max out your cold resistance to 90%, an

Ice Bolt now only deals ~30 cold damage. Once you've lost some HP, during the next round of cold damage, the +15 cold absorb from the

Belt kicks in first, which basically cancels out any damage from the cold

Bolts, and you won't feel a thing ever again.

Bisu wrote: 6 hours ago

Phreekz wrote: 8 hours ago

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Yeah... I got one shotted by Izzy last night. Lost my favourite Hephasto. Bummer.

Uber Izual and

Baal can use something similar to Sorc

Chilling Armor, with the effect of "Confers a defense bonus and launches an

Ice Bolt against ranged attackers. "

I've never verified the data myself, but some sources say each

Ice Bolt can deal ~300 cold damage. When using

Echoing Strike, the first 5 strikes always hit, then when they return, let's say 3 out of 5 strikes hit again, so that's 8 hits per cast, resulting 8 Ice

Bolts. If your bound demon or merc weren't there to block out those

Bolts and you took them all, then that would easily be 300 x 8 = ~2400 cold damage from one round a

Echoing Strike.

Let's say you are at the 75 FCR breakpoint, then that's 2.5 casts per second, which means each second you could trigger 2400 x 2.5 = ~6k cold damage. If you have 75% Cold resistance, then you will take ~1.5k damage. When not paying attention, within two seconds your HP could already hit the red line.

This is why we use

Raven Frost or

Snowclash.

Using

Snowclash as an example. When you equip it and max out your cold resistance to 90%, an

Ice Bolt now only deals ~30 cold damage. Once you've lost some HP, during the next round of cold damage, the +15 cold absorb from the

Belt kicks in first, which basically cancels out any damage from the cold

Bolts, and you won't feel a thing ever again.

It's enough to very easily kill you if you're a Smiter wearing Principle armour (100% CTC

Holy Bolt on strike) or even LoH. Lost two HC paladins to

Uber Baal because of this oversight.

BigD wrote: 1 hour ago

It's enough to very easily kill you if you're a Smiter wearing Principle armour (100% CTC

Holy Bolt on strike) or even LoH. Lost two HC paladins to

Uber Baal because of this oversight.

That's tough. =(

Most smiters are at 4f speed, so that would be 6 rounds of

Ice Bolt per second. Not as bad as the ~20

Bolts per sec ES Warlocks are facing, but they sure could still cause quite some hurt if not properly resisted/absorbed.