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Hello fellow Sanctuary protectors,

maybe some of you can enlighten me, but I get the feeling selling 3x3 Keysets (for a
Jah
) has become more and more difficult over the last couple of days.

I see tons of offers on d2.
Io
and traderie, yet only a very few trades happen each day, compared to the amount of offers on the other hand I get the feeling of that there is a huge over supply of keys.

Has the
Hunger
for Warlock Torches allready been sated, or is about to be?

Because this on the other hand would mean that prices for 3x3 Keysets should drop (sharply) during the next weeks.

Same with statues and Uber Jewels.

Or am I completely wrong with my "observation" here?!

Thanks a lot.
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Hello fellow Sanctuary protectors,

maybe some of you can enlighten me, but I get the feeling selling 3x3 Keysets (for a
Jah
) has become more and more difficult over the last couple of days.

I see tons of offers on d2.
Io
and traderie, yet only a very few trades happen each day, compared to the amount of offers on the other hand I get the feeling of that there is a huge over supply of keys.

Has the
Hunger
for Warlock Torches allready been sated, or is about to be?

Because this on the other hand would mean that prices for 3x3 Keysets should drop (sharply) during the next weeks.

Same with statues and Uber Jewels.

Or am I completely wrong with my "observation" here?!

Thanks a lot.

* All my trades are NON-Ladder and on RotW!
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I personally bought a LOT of keys until I found what I wanted and am no longer buying keys at a premium. When prices go back to normal, I'll buy some again just to do some ubers every once in a while for funnsies.

azeroti#1149
PC/PS
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M1ck 579

Europe PC
I think the initial hype is starting to die down a bit.

Also many players have already purchased or obtained the needed items i.e. less demand (although it is still high don't get me wrong).
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I did the same as @azeroti. I bought 15 3x3 keysets for
Jah
each. I got really lucky and found 4 warlock torches. Sold the worst two (for a combined total of more than 15
Jah
) and then kept the 2 good rolls for myself. Stopped buying after that.

Will buy any 3 minor keys for an
Ist
- message me.
Will accept statues and keys instead of rune payments for my trades.
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Schnorki 4761Moderator

RotW PC
The only reason keys were ever as crazy expensive all of a sudden is because even a crap warlock torch more than paid for them on average.

Now that lock torches are coming down at least a little bit, so are keys.

The same will be true for all but the rarest or best rolled of the new stuff more and more as time passes and the "new bonus" dies down as folks get everything.
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Bisu 463

RotW PC
I did a search for keys and saw all those 3x3 for
Jah
trades. Ya, I don't think they will get much movement at this point.

With most players geared enough to farm keys easily, they are not a hot commodity that could quickly lead you to an advantageous state anymore. I can see the 3x3 sell for a couple of
Ist
, or a
Vex
equivalent. Higher than that, it would be tough and slowwwwwwww.
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OP
Bisu wrote: 1 day ago
I did a search for keys and saw all those 3x3 for
Jah
trades. Ya, I don't think they will get much movement at this point.
They do, but the number of available offers exceed the number of trades happening by a huge margin, so to me it appears that there is much more supply then demand.

I can scroll almost endlessly on traderie and still find dozens and dozens of offers for keysets, yet only 20 - 30 trades happen each day.

At least that gives me the feeling of "does demand
Fade
?". I'm not that much into trading keysets, only sold a few of them, thatswhy I wanted to know if its just my personal feeling or is there really a decrease in demand.

* All my trades are NON-Ladder and on RotW!
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leox 363

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
About the
Key
value, as for today , 3 x 3 +2 should be around
Jah
. You have to check the torch value.
For long term stable price, you should price 2 x (3x3) =
Jah
.
Current value drop speed is 1
Key
every week until reach stable 18
Key
. ( 2 month later)

It will be wise to sell them and buy it back when it reach 18-25.

About over supply, what I feel is supply does not change but demand dead.

For the char I dont play much, I sell the char's torch and use a terrible roll to play.


---

The other thing, you may think about. It still profitable if you buy keys and produce torch to sell.
In current torch market today, you can get around 3
Ist
average for every uber run.

back rotw just start, I remember I sold 1
Key
= 1
Jah
in early start, kind of remember the buyer get like 400
Jah
+ profit. (he get luck roll 2020 and some other)
Even at that time, uber run is something like 1
Ber
-3
Jah
profit per run.(exclude cost, true revenue)

--Today price
D-
Key
11-13

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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JTrev 55

RotW Americas PC Playstation
There's also the factor of everyone farming their own keys, it's what I've been doing since launch of the DLC. Haven't bought any keysets but I have traded a few of the torches I got for keys.

Lost count on
Uber Tristram
runs at this point... I think I'm close to 20 and not a single warlock torch. Every other time I've farmed these it didn't even take 10 runs to get all 7 of the original classes their torches. Getting old at this point.
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mhlg 2936

Americas PC
Flipchart wrote: 1 day ago
Hello fellow Sanctuary protectors,

maybe some of you can enlighten me, but I get the feeling selling 3x3 Keysets (for a
Jah
) has become more and more difficult over the last couple of days.

I see tons of offers on d2.
Io
and traderie, yet only a very few trades happen each day, compared to the amount of offers on the other hand I get the feeling of that there is a huge over supply of keys.

Has the
Hunger
for Warlock Torches allready been sated, or is about to be?

Because this on the other hand would mean that prices for 3x3 Keysets should drop (sharply) during the next weeks.

Same with statues and Uber Jewels.

Or am I completely wrong with my "observation" here?!

Thanks a lot.
At this point in the game there's pretty much an oversupply of just about everything. I've always farmed my own keys, and when I got really good at farming a specific
Key
, I focused on it and traded the excess for other keys. The downside is that I have far too many torches in storage, and I'm too lazy to engage in small profit trades. As I've previously done I would give them out here on the forum except for concern of having a negative effect on the torch market for those just getting started.
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mhlg wrote: 3 hours ago
I've previously done I would give them out here on the forum except for concern of having a negative effect on the torch market for those just getting started.
I was worried about the same thing so I'm letting my torches out as a trickle and limiting them to Xbox only trades/free.

Will buy any 3 minor keys for an
Ist
- message me.
Will accept statues and keys instead of rune payments for my trades.
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leox 363

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
mhlg wrote: 3 hours ago
At this point in the game there's pretty much an oversupply of just about everything. I've always farmed my own keys, and when I got really good at farming a specific
Key
, I focused on it and traded the excess for other keys. The downside is that I have far too many torches in storage, and I'm too lazy to engage in small profit trades. As I've previously done I would give them out here on the forum except for concern of having a negative effect on the torch market for those just getting started.
eventually , torch market will reach balance.
if it wasnt trouble for you , it is usually good to sell them while value still okay.

And the other point about trade, flash crash is better than slow Death.

For real economic, flash crash can create Ground then people know there is reasonable price there and have fair thing/good env.

it is always relative.

if you compare to ladder start or rotw just release. it was 1
Key
per
Jah
. And for today, it is like 14
Key
per
Jah
....
it is crashed market compare to things just start.

The other way, if you compare now 14
Key
to stable world 30
Key
per
Jah
. There still a huge room there. even if you sell all torch in your inventory for slightly lower than market average, you cant make market reach relative stable point. 30
Key
per
Jah
.


For soso torch, there is always big market need there if you put them in several
Perfect Amethyst
. But problem is sell speed may not as good as it used to be due to player population drop. Put it free may not good practice because you may miss some people that really need it .
It is always good if you put something in market with reasonable price, even if it doesnt sell in short time.
Sometimes people just need any torch for quick.

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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