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I was actually wondering about the Shenk the Overseer as a binded demon over Hephasto.
Shenk has somewhat longer range on its attack so it could be better than Hephasto in that way. Both I believe can have Cursed status and aura is no biggie as high enough bind level provides aura if Shenk has none.
But I suppose shenk is a lot weaker compared to hephasto? as in dies faster?
Shenk has somewhat longer range on its attack so it could be better than Hephasto in that way. Both I believe can have Cursed status and aura is no biggie as high enough bind level provides aura if Shenk has none.
But I suppose shenk is a lot weaker compared to hephasto? as in dies faster?
I will test (at this moment, I'm trying to bind one with Cursed and an "OK" aura - I have Bind Demon 20+)
My guess is that it will be less tankier and will have a (little
) worse IA than Hephasto the Armorer, but will hit as hard (as most of damage come from Bind Demon + Demonic Mastery)
My guess is that it will be less tankier and will have a (little
Semirotta wrote: 3 days agoI was actually wondering about the Shenk the Overseer as a binded demon over Hephasto.
Shenk has somewhat longer range on its attack so it could be better than Hephasto in that way. Both I believe can have Cursed status and aura is no biggie as high enough bind level provides aura if Shenk has none.
But I suppose shenk is a lot weaker compared to hephasto? as in dies faster?
As mostly solo-player, all I can say is that the Vile Mother kicks ass.
Yesterday I got hands on a Cham, so I swapped my Desert Merc for a Mist-wielding Rogue Scout. No more reviving the merc after every second Herald! With curse and Sigil Lethargy she does +100% AoE damage.
Now I am rocking 2 Defilers, the Demon, 5 demon brood, the merc and a Oak Sage from my Hoto. Finally, this feels like an army.
Only downside with the Vile Mother is that constant hissing sound she makes. But a good metal music running in background solves the problem for me.
Yesterday I got hands on a Cham, so I swapped my Desert Merc for a Mist-wielding Rogue Scout. No more reviving the merc after every second Herald! With curse and Sigil Lethargy she does +100% AoE damage.
Now I am rocking 2 Defilers, the Demon, 5 demon brood, the merc and a Oak Sage from my Hoto. Finally, this feels like an army.
Only downside with the Vile Mother is that constant hissing sound she makes. But a good metal music running in background solves the problem for me.
DasNarf wrote: 3 days ago... But a good metal music running in background solves the problem for me.
No Zod so far. But I found that base tho:
immune to cold, immune to physical, cursed, extra fast, crushing blow
HC RotW
I was trying to bind Shenk the Overseer because I didn't finished hell yet 
But after a little "trick" to do TZ ahead of time
:
forums/trick-to-do-terror-zone-before-f ... 43541.html
I decided to follow your suggestion, and will start Act 5 with my L79 Warlock with a bounded L96 Vile Mother Cursed + Fanaticism L12 (96/8)
But after a little "trick" to do TZ ahead of time
forums/trick-to-do-terror-zone-before-f ... 43541.html
I decided to follow your suggestion, and will start Act 5 with my L79 Warlock with a bounded L96 Vile Mother Cursed + Fanaticism L12 (96/8)
DasNarf wrote: 3 days agoAs mostly solo-player, all I can say is that the Vile Mother kicks ass.
Yesterday I got hands on a Cham, so I swapped my Desert Merc for a Mist-wielding Rogue Scout. No more reviving the merc after every second Herald! With curse and Sigil Lethargy she does +100% AoE damage.
Now I am rocking 2 Defilers, the Demon, 5 demon brood, the merc and a Oak Sage from my Hoto. Finally, this feels like an army.
Only downside with the Vile Mother is that constant hissing sound she makes. But a good metal music running in background solves the problem for me.
On the playthrough in act IV with my my fire + summon warlock I joined the Club " I died, let's respec"
So some questions guys
1) does it even matter which demon you bind? they all are kinda immortal
2) does aura scale with skill level or monster level? because Conviction aura on a random demon in act IV with ~10 points spent didn't break the fire res
3) is pure summoner better than fire / summoner?
4) does Bone Break work for the summons?
btw warlock is strong yes, but the build I did didn't feel completely insane.. close to my 2nd zon, the icemaiden on playthrough
So some questions guys
1) does it even matter which demon you bind? they all are kinda immortal
2) does aura scale with skill level or monster level? because Conviction aura on a random demon in act IV with ~10 points spent didn't break the fire res
3) is pure summoner better than fire / summoner?
4) does Bone Break work for the summons?
btw warlock is strong yes, but the build I did didn't feel completely insane.. close to my 2nd zon, the icemaiden on playthrough
1) does it even matter which demon you bind? they all are kinda immortal
on regular games, the answer seems yes, even if you bind a non-super (my current one is not a super...)
But to face Ubers... it may make difference

2) does aura scale with skill level or monster level? because Conviction aura on a random demon in act IV with ~10 points spent didn't break the fire res
the Bound Demon level is snapshotted when you bound it, and the aura level depend on that.
I bound my demon on L96 TZ, so he is permanently L96, and his Fanaticism is L12 (96/8)
https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/m ... onus.shtml
3) is pure summoner better than fire / summoner?
not even
close, but IMO it is fun and it is my current build 
4) does Bone Break work for the summons?
For regular summon it is snapshotted on cast (so you can equip Bone Break cast, and then unequip). Equip after the cast will not affect the summons already casted.
Don't know how it works with Bind Demon
, if it "looks" only the moment you bounded it, or at the beginning of each game (like Iron Golem)
In doubt... I always keep Bone Break in my inventory when I exit
on regular games, the answer seems yes, even if you bind a non-super (my current one is not a super...)
But to face Ubers... it may make difference
2) does aura scale with skill level or monster level? because Conviction aura on a random demon in act IV with ~10 points spent didn't break the fire res
the Bound Demon level is snapshotted when you bound it, and the aura level depend on that.
I bound my demon on L96 TZ, so he is permanently L96, and his Fanaticism is L12 (96/8)
https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/m ... onus.shtml
3) is pure summoner better than fire / summoner?
not even
4) does Bone Break work for the summons?
For regular summon it is snapshotted on cast (so you can equip Bone Break cast, and then unequip). Equip after the cast will not affect the summons already casted.
Don't know how it works with Bind Demon
In doubt... I always keep Bone Break in my inventory when I exit
ganseng wrote: 4 hours agoOn the playthrough in act IV with my my fire + summon warlock I joined the Club " I died, let's respec"
So some questions guys
1) does it even matter which demon you bind? they all are kinda immortal
2) does aura scale with skill level or monster level? because Conviction aura on a random demon in act IV with ~10 points spent didn't break the fire res
3) is pure summoner better than fire / summoner?
4) does Bone Break work for the summons?
btw warlock is strong yes, but the build I did didn't feel completely insane.. close to my 2nd zon, the icemaiden on playthrough
thx! not even close - meaning fire is better or summoner is better?
fredkid wrote: 3 hours ago1) does it even matter which demon you bind? they all are kinda immortal
on regular games, the answer seems yes, even if you bind a non-super (my current one is not a super...)
But to face Ubers... it may make difference
2) does aura scale with skill level or monster level? because Conviction aura on a random demon in act IV with ~10 points spent didn't break the fire res
the Bound Demon level is snapshotted when you bound it, and the aura level depend on that.
I bound my demon on L96 TZ, so he is permanently L96, and his Fanaticism is L12 (96/8)
https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/m ... onus.shtml
3) is pure summoner better than fire / summoner?
not evenclose, but IMO it is fun and it is my current build
4) does Bone Break work for the summons?
For regular summon it is snapshotted on cast (so you can equip Bone Break cast, and then unequip). Equip after the cast will not affect the summons already casted.
Don't know how it works with Bind Demon, if it "looks" only the moment you bounded it, or at the beginning of each game (like Iron Golem)
In doubt... I always keep Bone Break in my inventory when I exit
ganseng wrote: 4 hours agoOn the playthrough in act IV with my my fire + summon warlock I joined the Club " I died, let's respec"
So some questions guys
1) does it even matter which demon you bind? they all are kinda immortal
2) does aura scale with skill level or monster level? because Conviction aura on a random demon in act IV with ~10 points spent didn't break the fire res
3) is pure summoner better than fire / summoner?
4) does Bone Break work for the summons?
btw warlock is strong yes, but the build I did didn't feel completely insane.. close to my 2nd zon, the icemaiden on playthrough
1) does it even matter which demon you bind? they all are kinda immortal
... and if you need it to actually do damage (instead of just a Curse/Aura carrier)
You need a melee monster with a good AI
... and if you need it to actually do damage (instead of just a Curse/Aura carrier)
You need a melee monster with a good AI
DasNarf wrote: 2 weeks agoAs far as I have tested:
Good:
Blunderbore, Corrupt Rogue Spearwoman, Corrupt Rogue, Vile Mother, Hephasto the Armorer
->speed and melee is good.
Okayish:
Goatman, Megademon, Overseer, Fetish, Lister the Tormentor
Bad:
Stygian Fury, Fallen, Fallen Shaman, Demon Imp, Regurgitator
-> all ranged/slow/elemental monsters are not useful.
I misread as "fire / echoing" 
by just "summoner" do you mean " Blood Boil"?
I just tried "Pure summoner" (already knowing that it is not a top Build, but wanted to try
)
From what I saw/read, Echoing Strike, Mirrored Blades and Apocalypse are top builds and Blood Boil is better than "pure summoner"
by just "summoner" do you mean " Blood Boil"?
I just tried "Pure summoner" (already knowing that it is not a top Build, but wanted to try
From what I saw/read, Echoing Strike, Mirrored Blades and Apocalypse are top builds and Blood Boil is better than "pure summoner"
ganseng wrote: 3 hours agothx! not even close - meaning fire is better or summoner is better?
fredkid wrote: 3 hours ago1) does it even matter which demon you bind? they all are kinda immortal
on regular games, the answer seems yes, even if you bind a non-super (my current one is not a super...)
But to face Ubers... it may make difference
2) does aura scale with skill level or monster level? because Conviction aura on a random demon in act IV with ~10 points spent didn't break the fire res
the Bound Demon level is snapshotted when you bound it, and the aura level depend on that.
I bound my demon on L96 TZ, so he is permanently L96, and his Fanaticism is L12 (96/8)
https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/m ... onus.shtml
3) is pure summoner better than fire / summoner?
not evenclose, but IMO it is fun and it is my current build
4) does Bone Break work for the summons?
For regular summon it is snapshotted on cast (so you can equip Bone Break cast, and then unequip). Equip after the cast will not affect the summons already casted.
Don't know how it works with Bind Demon, if it "looks" only the moment you bounded it, or at the beginning of each game (like Iron Golem)
In doubt... I always keep Bone Break in my inventory when I exit
ganseng wrote: 4 hours agoOn the playthrough in act IV with my my fire + summon warlock I joined the Club " I died, let's respec"
So some questions guys
1) does it even matter which demon you bind? they all are kinda immortal
2) does aura scale with skill level or monster level? because Conviction aura on a random demon in act IV with ~10 points spent didn't break the fire res
3) is pure summoner better than fire / summoner?
4) does Bone Break work for the summons?
btw warlock is strong yes, but the build I did didn't feel completely insane.. close to my 2nd zon, the icemaiden on playthrough
hmm thx.. i meant just summon a few critters and let them do all the work 
surprised about Apocalypse.. it's basically a screen sized Meteor without aoe effect. good vs mobs, mediocre vs single targets
and.. is it a bug or intended that hellforge won't spawn when hephasto is bound?
surprised about Apocalypse.. it's basically a screen sized Meteor without aoe effect. good vs mobs, mediocre vs single targets
and.. is it a bug or intended that hellforge won't spawn when hephasto is bound?
Dont kid yourselves.. Get urself a Cursed+fana+lightning enchanted hephasto. The cursed+fana dmg multipliers are amazing and the lightning enchanted is just the cherry on top. You'll have to fish heavy for him, I use my sorc then come back with lock.
I'm on that lazy side at the moment 
As I have Bind Demon 20+, I just bind normal monsters (of a good type) on a Cursed TZ until get Fanaticism as the aura
Currently with Vile Mother, will try Blunderbore next.
As I have Bind Demon 20+, I just bind normal monsters (of a good type) on a Cursed TZ until get Fanaticism as the aura
Currently with Vile Mother, will try Blunderbore next.
Tendrilz14 wrote: 2 hours agoDont kid yourselves.. Get urself a Cursed+fana+lightning enchanted hephasto. The cursed+fana dmg multipliers are amazing and the lightning enchanted is just the cherry on top. You'll have to fish heavy for him, I use my sorc then come back with lock.
Fair enough! =D Vile Mother sounds kinda funfredkid wrote: 2 hours agoI'm on that lazy side at the moment
As I have Bind Demon 20+, I just bind normal monsters (of a good type) on a Cursed TZ until get Fanaticism as the aura
Currently with Vile Mother, will try Blunderbore next.
Tendrilz14 wrote: 2 hours agoDont kid yourselves.. Get urself a Cursed+fana+lightning enchanted hephasto. The cursed+fana dmg multipliers are amazing and the lightning enchanted is just the cherry on top. You'll have to fish heavy for him, I use my sorc then come back with lock.
A question about Bind Demon. Does the bound demon scale reactively? Or do I need to go find another one every time I equip something with +all skill?
The monster level is snapshotted at the moment of the bind (one way to check is to look the effect of the aura on your or your merc's numbers
)
About the effect of the skill
Didn't see anyone confirming that yet... (most of the votes are that they are snapshotted at the moment of the bind...)
We know that the demon do not lose or gain affixes based on your current Bind Demon level...
(if you bind with Bind Demon less than 20 and then raise the level, the demon will not gain Aura Enchanted, and in a similar way, binding with Bind Demon 20+ and than decrease it's level, will not remove the Aura enchanted)
About the effect of the skill
Didn't see anyone confirming that yet... (most of the votes are that they are snapshotted at the moment of the bind...)
We know that the demon do not lose or gain affixes based on your current Bind Demon level...
(if you bind with Bind Demon less than 20 and then raise the level, the demon will not gain Aura Enchanted, and in a similar way, binding with Bind Demon 20+ and than decrease it's level, will not remove the Aura enchanted)
Tendrilz14 wrote: 1 hour agoA question about Bind Demon. Does the bound demon scale reactively? Or do I need to go find another one every time I equip something with +all skill?
Awesome, thx for the info! Snapshotting. Makes sense. As a wow player I should've foreseen such a device, classic blizzard! =Dfredkid wrote: 1 hour agoThe monster level is snapshotted at the moment of the bind (one way to check is to look the effect of the aura on your or your merc's numbers)
About the effect of the skill
Didn't see anyone confirming that yet... (most of the votes are that they are snapshotted at the moment of the bind...)
We know that the demon do not lose or gain affixes based on your current Bind Demon level...
(if you bind with Bind Demon less than 20 and then raise the level, the demon will not gain Aura Enchanted, and in a similar way, binding with Bind Demon 20+ and than decrease it's level, will not remove the Aura enchanted)
Tendrilz14 wrote: 1 hour agoA question about Bind Demon. Does the bound demon scale reactively? Or do I need to go find another one every time I equip something with +all skill?
And now the real work begins.. I look forward to buying demon skill charms as an Eld lock hahaha. ooof!
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