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for the love of god list ur asking price, stop asking for offers

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sbn wrote: 5 hours ago
OK, ready to anger a lot of people, but here goes...

I have been active trader on another site for about 20 years, a site that often there is a BIN. It is is simple convenient, and worked well. 95% of trades completed within minutes of posting an ISO, or responding to a post. On Saturday I had 2x Warlock torches to sell, both transactions completed within 10 minutes of posting. I needed statues, my ISO took 2 minutes.

Lets truly be honest here, the "LF runes" and "Make offer" are really hoping for the offer of 20 Jahs for a 5
Jah
item. You know it, I know it. This has been the way of D2 trading since the dawn of time (yes, going all the way to the dinosaur age). The way it worked when players would try in game trades making games like "
Eth
Titans4trade". Items worth pgems to Puls could maybe, possibly get the trader a HIGH RUNE. The cost to this is that this pushes most traders away, both buyer and seller.

I tried yesterday to use this site, for which the search function is by far the best anywhere. Single reason why it only took me 5 minutes to know I will never use Traderie (OMFG that site sucks). Did complete a trade, because the seller had a BIN. But other sellers, it was just frustrating and a turn off. So I need to post an offer and let them sit on it and think, meanwhile I am going to keep looking. Meanwhile others are completing trades. So am I now obligated to stick with my offer?
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no, so the seller can ponder my offer and basically get stuck having to relist for days. THAT is exactly what I saw at this site. Items I did search for had been being listed and re-listed, bump after bump. Buyers not buying, sellers not selling.

This is going to offend many here, but so what. If this site (which has amazing database, awesome forum, great community) is to ever gain steam with their trading, then changes need to be made. That starts with sellers having a clue what to ask for, just posting a *#&$ BIN. More you trade, the more that is offered and can move, the more people will come here to use this site. Simple as that.

I gotta give it to you, I respect bringing a perhaps unpopular opinion when it is something that needs to be said. You’re absolutely right that it is people hoping for an uneducated/exorbitantly rich and doesn’t care buyer.

At the end of the day, it does hurt trading, cause it makes it annoying to quibble or be ignored.
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sbn wrote: 5 hours ago
OK, ready to anger a lot of people, but here goes...

I have been active trader on another site for about 20 years, a site that often there is a BIN. It is is simple convenient, and worked well. 95% of trades completed within minutes of posting an ISO, or responding to a post. On Saturday I had 2x Warlock torches to sell, both transactions completed within 10 minutes of posting. I needed statues, my ISO took 2 minutes.

Lets truly be honest here, the "LF runes" and "Make offer" are really hoping for the offer of 20 Jahs for a 5
Jah
item. You know it, I know it. This has been the way of D2 trading since the dawn of time (yes, going all the way to the dinosaur age). The way it worked when players would try in game trades making games like "
Eth
Titans4trade". Items worth pgems to Puls could maybe, possibly get the trader a HIGH RUNE. The cost to this is that this pushes most traders away, both buyer and seller.

I tried yesterday to use this site, for which the search function is by far the best anywhere. Single reason why it only took me 5 minutes to know I will never use Traderie (OMFG that site sucks). Did complete a trade, because the seller had a BIN. But other sellers, it was just frustrating and a turn off. So I need to post an offer and let them sit on it and think, meanwhile I am going to keep looking. Meanwhile others are completing trades. So am I now obligated to stick with my offer?
Um
no, so the seller can ponder my offer and basically get stuck having to relist for days. THAT is exactly what I saw at this site. Items I did search for had been being listed and re-listed, bump after bump. Buyers not buying, sellers not selling.

This is going to offend many here, but so what. If this site (which has amazing database, awesome forum, great community) is to ever gain steam with their trading, then changes need to be made. That starts with sellers having a clue what to ask for, just posting a *#&$ BIN. More you trade, the more that is offered and can move, the more people will come here to use this site. Simple as that.
I think major issue here is that we have different groups of users on here with very different interests. Some folks take the approach that 90% of trades need to be cleared within X days or it’s a systemic market failure. Others don’t really mind holding items until an offer comes along, maybe even suggesting a unique trade that hadn’t even occurred to the seller. In the end, it’s a free market system. Those that absolutely will not respond to “LF offers” posts can simply bypass those trades and those sellers can make the call whether those potential losses of customers are enough to warrant a change in approach.

Personally I haven’t had any real issues with moving items even though I frequently post “LF offers.” Now I do agree with other comments that you absolutely have to avoid the radio Silence problem. I try to respond very quickly to any offers so we can get the gap narrowed and either close or move on.
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