Baal minions & auras - binding for Warlock question

A couple times when I have bound a

Baal Minion I have had one with Freeze aura, two with

Conviction, and now one with

Fanaticism. Problem is I do not know whether all the minions cycle through an aura and I just need to time it correctly, or whether each of the minions has their own aura.

Right now the Fana one I just do not see as that good,

Conviction seemed to work better (or so it seemed). So how do I know which minion has which aura? Not seeing the typical aura graphic on them when they spawn, I did not even know any existed until now.

Is it also possible to bind Listener?

Typically, when a mob gets aura enchanted, they then roll a random aura upon spawning.

There are exceptions (e.g. uber meph always has conv) but as a general rule, the above tends to stand.

Similarly, if you have lvl 20+

Bind Demon, any demon bound automatically gains aura enchanted if they don't already have it. If that demon already had aura enchanted, it'll keep the same aura it had before you bound it. If it didn't have an aura before, it will gain a new random aura.

Keep in mind that aura enchanted itself is a limited list and doesn't include every aura in the game as a possibility.

And yes, Lister can be bound.

Just wanted to share a PSA with you all.

So when I originally made this post it was about the Brand new NL Warlock I made. When Ladder started I made a 2nd one and ran into an issue getting a bound demon to have an aura. I struggled trying to figure it out, then I Schnorki's post gave me the answer.

So last weekend I gave up on Ladder and made a new Warlock on NL, ran into same problem but forgot the solution. Asked in game, did Google search, none of it resolved the issue. Google (and couple Youtube videos) are badly informed.

Schnorki is 100% correct, you need to have "

Bind Demon" at level 20 (whereas Google & Youtubers were saying

Demonic Mastery needed to be at level 20". Even in game one player said DM needed to be lvl 20.

You don't necessarily need to have lvl 20+

Bind Demon to have a demon with an aura. You merely need lvl 20+

Bind Demon to add an aura to a demon without one.

E.g. if you bind a random demon with say extra strong, Stone skin and cursed but no aura:
- A lvl <20

Bind Demon will let you bind that demon but it will not have an aura
- A lvl 20+

Bind Demon will let you bind that demon and will then give it an aura from the pool of possible auras

If on the other hand you bind a demon that already has an aura himself, such as Hephasto:
- A lvl <20

Bind Demon will let you bind that demon and the demon will keep his aura
- A lvl 20+

Bind Demon will let you bind that demon and the demon will keep his aura, it will not receive a 2nd aura and the current aura will not be randomly replaced by a different one

Essentially, all lvl 20+ does in that regard is give you more options for a viable demon to bind as you don't need to find ones that are already aura enchanted.

The same is true for the other affixes added via

Bind Demon:
Extra strong, extra fast, spectral hit and aura enchanted. For every 5 levels in

Bind Demon, it'll add one more of those (unless the target demon already had it anyways).

The skill tooltip also tells you what it'll add automatically, based on your

Bind Demon lvl.

Thanks @Schnorki for the info.
I found a compilation of Warlock skills hidden features and bugs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gtM ... WE6fUdVg6Y . It confirms what you've written.

So... is it optimal to look for a demon without Extra Strong, Extra Fast, Spectral and Aura Enchanted, since these affixes will be added anyway, and look for other useful ones?
The only drawback is that the aura is random, so you may need to repeat the binding once you get the desired one.

Trang Oul wrote: 3 hours ago

Thanks @Schnorki for the info.
So... is it optimal to look for a demon without Extra Strong, Extra Fast, Spectral and Aura Enchanted, since these affixes will be added anyway, and look for other useful ones?
The only drawback is that the aura is random, so you may need to repeat the binding once you get the desired one.

Since you get these with bind, it's more useful to look for demons without these attributes (unless you find a good combo with a desired aura, in which case, bind it to keep that aura, Hephasto being good for this).

Good attributes include Cursed and Stone skin/elemental enchants (except fire if you use Flickering Flame/

Summon Tainted).

Teleport has been known to make demons disappear at inconvenient times, so may want to avoid that.

Mana burn also does nothing.

Also to keep in mind for super uniques, is that while they will have 2 fixed properties (Eg. Hephasto always has spectral hit/aura enchanted), they can also have 2 random properties on top in hell difficulty.

Trang Oul wrote: 3 hours ago

Thanks @Schnorki for the info.
I found a compilation of Warlock skills hidden features and bugs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gtM ... WE6fUdVg6Y . It confirms what you've written.

So... is it optimal to look for a demon without Extra Strong, Extra Fast, Spectral and Aura Enchanted, since these affixes will be added anyway, and look for other useful ones?
The only drawback is that the aura is random, so you may need to repeat the binding once you get the desired one.

Theoretically, sure, you'd want your demon to have none of the affixes you get auto-added so that you can maximize the total.

But realistically, most other affixes really aren't worth the search. And if you look at say Heph, as still the top choice in most contexts, he always gets spectral + aura. So you could say "2 are wasted". Or you could say "great, only need lvl 10 bind to guarantee all 4". Or you go 20+ anyways and don't care.

Cursed is fantastic. Stone skin/magic resistant can be quite useful for added tankiness, depending on the demon. The rest really doesn't do too much in my experience or in the case of teleportation can even be counterproductive.

But one do want to bind a demon at the highest possible with

Bind Demon skill to snaphot the + % dmg etc that high level

Bind Demon provides? Unless the +% dmg doesnt get snapshot?

How do we see what exactly the demon gets or has? I have merely been just farming with my Apocalypses to get

Conviction Aura or Might for Echoing Strikes. There is a noticeable difference between non

Conviction and

Conviction demon when I cast Apocalypses. So that is the only thing I ever cared about. My original problem was I was not at lvl 20, so each Wave 5 minion could have an aura in game, but once bound that aura was lost.

A couple of the

Conviction Aura ones did seem to have something else, but I could not tell what it was. I can say that certain iterations of "Bob" (yes, I named my binded demon) seemed better. Once that I was sad to lose seemed faster and more aggressive (like he had

Fanaticism or something) but all I could see was green aura of

Conviction.

Is there also a way of just looking at the demon before binding to see what affixes or whatnot it would get? Is this reliant on the Unique boss (which will show stuff like Cursed, Stone etc.)

Does anyone know what lvl the auras are lvl 20+

Bind Demon provides? I suspect them being of higher lvl than the average inherent aura, as i had a chance to compare inherent and

Bind Demon

Fanaticism aura with my two warlocks, the latter having a significant larger range

Blubbalutsch wrote: 1 hour ago

Does anyone know what lvl the auras are lvl 20+

Bind Demon provides? I suspect them being of higher lvl than the average inherent aura, as i had a chance to compare inherent and

Bind Demon

Fanaticism aura with my two warlocks, the latter having a significant larger range

Aura's for monsters are based on the demon's level and the type of aura at the time of binding (whether they already had aura enchanted, or were given it by

Bind Demon).

For calcualtions:

https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Aura_Enchanted

For example, Hephasto is level 88 outside of

Terror zones on hell difficulty, so if he had

Conviction, you'd get a level 11

Conviction aura (monster level divided by 8).

if you got the same from a level 96

Terror zone, it would be level 12

sbn wrote: 1 hour ago

[..] My original problem was I was not at lvl 20, so each Wave 5 minion could have an aura in game, but once bound that aura was lost. [..]

That wasn't their aura.

The various minions do not have their own aura. But when Lister has a friendly aura, such as

Fanaticism, it will affect his minions and they will get the aura animation below them. That doesn't mean they have an aura though, they're merely benefiting from his, which is why it was lost when you bound them.

To see the various affixes of a mob, just hover over it and look at what it says below the health bar. In this particular case, you're looking for aura enchanted which is only shown for the mob actually giving the aura, not the ones merely benefiting from it.

As a rule of thumb, never tame the minions, always tame the unique.