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After release latent sunder charm cubed into renewed rolled their -% resistance in the 70-90 range (10-30 for Bone Break, 45-65 for Black Cleft).
I made a Renewed Flame Rift in cube and rolled -90% on it.
Couple days ago I crafted a -45% Black Cleft.
Apparently all renewed sunder charms now roll perfect -% score.
There was a hotfix in between. Not sure, if anyone documented it?
Too bad (or is it?) for early adopters who got a random roll in the first wave. They are strictly worse but objectively super-rare now, as there will be only a handful of them.
I made a Renewed Flame Rift in cube and rolled -90% on it.
Couple days ago I crafted a -45% Black Cleft.
Apparently all renewed sunder charms now roll perfect -% score.
There was a hotfix in between. Not sure, if anyone documented it?
Too bad (or is it?) for early adopters who got a random roll in the first wave. They are strictly worse but objectively super-rare now, as there will be only a handful of them.
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After release latent sunder charm cubed into renewed rolled their -% resistance in the 70-90 range (10-30 for Bone Break, 45-65 for Black Cleft).
I made a Renewed Flame Rift in cube and rolled -90% on it.
Couple days ago I crafted a -45% Black Cleft.
Apparently all renewed sunder charms now roll perfect -% score.
There was a hotfix in between. Not sure, if anyone documented it?
Too bad (or is it?) for early adopters who got a random roll in the first wave. They are strictly worse but objectively super-rare now, as there will be only a handful of them.
I made a Renewed Flame Rift in cube and rolled -90% on it.
Couple days ago I crafted a -45% Black Cleft.
Apparently all renewed sunder charms now roll perfect -% score.
There was a hotfix in between. Not sure, if anyone documented it?
Too bad (or is it?) for early adopters who got a random roll in the first wave. They are strictly worse but objectively super-rare now, as there will be only a handful of them.
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Yeah Th3ory let me know a couple days ago - there was a hotfix - and I confirmed looking at the new game files.
Latents now have a variable -res roll, and Reneweds always roll perfect -res. Database was updated.
Latents now have a variable -res roll, and Reneweds always roll perfect -res. Database was updated.
Thx for the info! This increased my interest in the new Sunder Charms exponentially...
I hope to find one or two until the end of the year
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Made a short on it here since no one caught it before ladder 
How about the old Latent Sunder charms that only rolls the worst stats? Will they roll perfect with the renewed sunders?
Say, you tend to always look into drop stats and all that jazz..
Can latents drop off any Herald? Or only after a certain tier / from Herald chaining?
Haven't actually looked into that yet and my own testing so far just says "they don't drop from any Herald ever".
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I got one charm out of I dont know...60+ heralds over past weeks. But their spawn rate is very inconsistent, I agree
Every Herald tier can drop them. But given the Tier4/Tier5's have higher guaranteed drop rates, on top of the highest quality factors now in the game, you have a better shot at Latent there.
You and I must be on the same PTR where they have Latent Sunders turned off.
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Thank you, sir.War The Wise wrote: 2 hours agoEvery Herald tier can drop them. But given the Tier4/Tier5's have higher guaranteed drop rates, on top of the highest quality factors now in the game, you have a better shot at Latent there.
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Ladder 'PTR' has heralds turned off entirely, not just sunders
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There's a lot of conflicting information on the net as to which Heralds can drop what. According to a Reddit post taken with a grain of salt, only Tier 4 or higher Heralds can drop latent sunders.
This has been disproven already with video recordings - latents can drop from even Herald of Fright - the lowest tier.
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You can see here - this is a Tier1 Herald dropping a Sunder with video evidencemhlg wrote: 1 hour agoThere's a lot of conflicting information on the net as to which Heralds can drop what. According to a Reddit post taken with a grain of salt, only Tier 4 or higher Heralds can drop latent sunders.
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/commen ... one_break/
Herald of Fright is a Tier1 Herald. I have also tested it and they dropped on Tier1, albeit it took a LONG time.
Ok sorry. I see where the confusion is and just clarified with Pavke.
Online
ALL Tiered Heralds can drop...
Offline
ONLY Tier 4 and Tier 5's
Unsure if this was truly intended - but this is an interesting nugget.
Note: The thesis here is that its probably a leftover condition from alpha testing or something. And when they pushed the patch/live, they "boosted" the drops for their online servers but forgot to change it for offline.
Heralds are guaranteed to drop items, but Sunders (and their table) still have a significant NoDrop. Thus, increased /playerx would improve the drop rates. This could be another reason why they elected to make it harder offline.
Online
ALL Tiered Heralds can drop...
Offline
ONLY Tier 4 and Tier 5's
Unsure if this was truly intended - but this is an interesting nugget.
Note: The thesis here is that its probably a leftover condition from alpha testing or something. And when they pushed the patch/live, they "boosted" the drops for their online servers but forgot to change it for offline.
Heralds are guaranteed to drop items, but Sunders (and their table) still have a significant NoDrop. Thus, increased /playerx would improve the drop rates. This could be another reason why they elected to make it harder offline.
At least it adds a little credence to that Reddit Tier 4 grain of salt.War The Wise wrote: 58 minutes agoOk sorry. I see where the confusion is and just clarified with Pavke.
Online
ALL Tiered Heralds can drop...
Offline
ONLY Tier 4 and Tier 5's
Unsure if this was truly intended - but this is an interesting nugget.
Note: The thesis here is that its probably a leftover condition from alpha testing or something. And when they pushed the patch/live, they "boosted" the drops for their online servers but forgot to change it for offline.
Heralds are guaranteed to drop items, but Sunders (and their table) still have a significant NoDrop. Thus, increased /playerx would improve the drop rates. This could be another reason why they elected to make it harder offline.
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