Pala Caster Amulet

I got this beauty while crafting caster amulets:
+ 2 combat skills (pala)
+ 10 fcr
30 LR
39 FR
Psn LRB 75%
18 mana
5 mana reg

Really curious what you think.

Alright, I did some digging.

Obviously, this is not relevant for melee builds, since they barely profit from fcr and other amulets are more valuable. I will only consider Hammerdin and assume similar things apply to other palamages (eg. FoH-din etc).

Standard equipment (

Shako, Hoto, Spirit, Enigma, arach,

Magefist) leaves you with 115 fcr. That means, you need 10 fcr in juwelry for 125 fcr BP.

Standard equipment is Maras and on 10 fcr ring. So to evaluate this amu's worth, we have to compare Mara + a 10 fcr vs this amu and a SoJ or BK.

First: Resis:
With anni and torch, and 45 @ base for Spirit, you end up with up to +90 all res (-35 fire because of Spirit). So even with non perfects, you should have 75 psn, cold. The 39 fr fills the Spirit gap. Extra LR helps with souls if you encounter a

Conviction boss.
Which means, ressis on this are enough to match a perfect maras (considering good overall equipment). Even with bad, the Psn LRB could be better than psn and cold res.

Stats: Maras has 5 all stats, which basically translates to 10 vita.

Maras and 10 fcr have 2 all skills. This amu and soj/bk have 3 combat (total), 1 everything else. This should lead to a little higher damage but I'd need to check.

Nice about this amu: You can use dual SoJ, which solves all your mana problems and your merc can freely choose his weapon (no need for Insight).

The 1 missing all skills decreases your offhand BO from CTA, which is actually a big deal. Together with 10 vita, you are trading a lot of life (and whatever you have on your 10 fcr ring) for some more damage, reduce poison length an 9 more FR (compared to perf. maras).

Conclusion:
This amu and SoJ is better than a bad maras and a bad 10 fcr ring, but worse than a good maras and a good fcr ring.

Which sets it's value somewhere between nothing (SoJ alone costs more than low maras and crappy 10 fcr ring) and

Ber + ? - 3

Ist (perf. Mara + fcr ring - SoJ).

In other words. I still don't know. But my estimate would be around 3-5

Ist.

Does this make any sense? Other opinions are much appreciated.

This is a temp amulet. People usually won't spend more than 1-2

Ist for temp gear.

The +2 combat skills hurts you for sure. But even at +2 pala this would still only be 1-2

Jah. Bare bones 2/20 pala go for 2

Jah.

The pala amulets that command high value are 2/20 with perf res, and\or life, mana, str, or dex.

Good evaluation though. This process is exactly how you see if a piece is worth keeping or

Charsi. You ask youself is it useful? What build would use it? If I had this build (and could afford it), would I buy it?

Thanks!
Just 2 remarks:
- "only 1-2

Jah" => there are many people, including me, who would be super happy to get "only 1-2"

Jah for anything.
- I think with 2 skills it would be better than a bare Bone 2/20 Pala since Hammerdin's fcr gap is 10 and those resis add extremely well to a Spirit's.

Anyways, 1-2 Ists sounds like a good estimate

vued wrote: 9 months ago

Thanks!
Just 2 remarks:
- "only 1-2

Jah" => there are many people, including me, who would be super happy to get "only 1-2"

Jah for anything.
- I think with 2 skills it would be better than a bare Bone 2/20 Pala since Hammerdin's fcr gap is 10 and those resis add extremely well to a Spirit's.

Anyways, 1-2 Ists sounds like a good estimate

Lol, you are completely correct! I'm sorry, I didn't mean to minimize the value of "1-2

Jah". I'm not an elitist, haahaa. People tend to over-assume the value of caster amulets. Caster amulets CAN achieve eye-watering values. I meant the "only 1-2

Jah" compared to the 100+

Jah amulets that folks tend to assume/hope their amulets are worth. In the price check forums I'm used to people assuming/expecting their items to be worth 50

Jah+. I forget that people WONT be dissapointed with a 1-2

Jah valuation. I don't blame them though! Every time I hit the 'transmute' button on my cube, I'm hoping for a 100+

Jah craft.

I also agree with your second point - to an extent. I would also chose a +2 pala/10 fcr/30+ fire res amulet over a bare bones 2/20 for a hammerdin. However, you're basing your initial build assumption on a BiS build hammerdin. A BiS weapon for a foh build is NOT hoto, so you lose 40 FCR right there. You gain 25FCR back from

Griffon's Eye but that is still a net loss of 15 FCR. Meaning you need 25FCR in jewellery. Since you can't get 25FCR on an amulet, the minimum roll you need is 15FCR on the amulet and then 10 on your ring.

The intrinsic value of the naked 2/20 might seem higher than it should be, compared to your amulet (even if it did roll with +2 all paladin) but there are other, less common, paladin builds that still care about FCR. The extrinsic value of that 2/20 is that it can be used on any paladin build and it will minimize the hassle of finding your FCR breakpoints. You just know you have max FCR on your amulet - people will pay to eliminate time, waste, and hassle.

Thanks for your explanation. True, I based my assertion on this standard build. I did not consider Griffon for Hammerdin. As you can see, I don't know enough about them ^^.
Probalby a 2/20

Diadem also works nicely. And those will definately look better than this green towel people keep putting on their head.

I will put it up for sale and see if anyone wants it.

vued wrote: 9 months ago

Thanks for your explanation. True, I based my assertion on this standard build. I did not consider Griffon for Hammerdin. As you can see, I don't know enough about them ^^.
Probalby a 2/20

Diadem also works nicely. And those will definately look better than this green towel people keep putting on their head.

I will put it up for sale and see if anyone wants it.

I meant griffon for foh-din. griff is not BiS, or even recommended for hdin.