Crown of Ages vs Guillaume's Face

For really max damage output/fastest

would it be the 80% enhanced damage and 30% speed from

Crown of Ages wins over

Guillaume's Face with 40/15? but then loosing 35% chance to do the crushing blows but then you gain +1 skills and +2 skills with maras instead of highlord?

or would "attack speed" do more damage than crushing blow? Highlord, coa, 20 ias glove


(I have currently 38 and 39 jews / 15) so fews 3% just to be exact) haven't put it inside the coa, but then if it pair with Fortitude it would be like 300+80+60 from

Steelrend

if you can reach another attack frame with that additional 15% ias, then coa is more dmg, otherwise guil>

What is your exact build?

Depends on your

Boots in a few cases, if you are rocking

Goblin Toe and are willing to invest into crushing blow with runes than meh.

At the end of the day ita like crafting a mech in battletech. Everything has to come from somewhere. (Opportunity/Cost effectiveness).

uuee wrote: 10 months ago

What is your exact build?

Im just doing

Blessed Hammer and

Smite, most points being into hammers stuff so im missing only like 4 points to reach 20 fanat then I have to be lv 97. There is no issues killing them at all but would like to min/max dmg output just for fun and maybe like scaling players to like 4-5 players while doing solo all 3 same time that is basically my goal.

By exact build, we need to know your weapon. If you are running a Grief

Phase Blade, or maybe astreons, or maybe HOTO? and

Fanaticism, you already have more ias than you need, so the crushing blow is way more important than a tiny bit of off-weapon enhanced damage

If you are running a slower weapon, you can calculate here, or we can help you calculate: https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/

https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/

You have to include the

Guillaume's Face Deadly strike in the calculations too

fredkid wrote: 10 months ago

You have to include the

Guillaume's Face Deadly strike in the calculations too

Not for a smiter:)

BTW for a hammer/

Smite hybrid, I'd skip

Fanaticism altogether, and just use

Concentration while smiting.

Phase Blade needs 65 ias for 6fpa

Smite, so Grief (40ias) + 25ias somewhere else is enough.

marl71 wrote: 10 months ago

Grief

Phase Blade

uuee wrote: 10 months ago

fredkid wrote: 10 months ago

You have to include the

Guillaume's Face Deadly strike in the calculations too

Not for a smiter:)

BTW for a hammer/

Smite hybrid, I'd skip

Fanaticism altogether, and just use

Concentration while smiting.

Phase Blade needs 65 ias for 6fpa

Smite, so Grief (40ias) + 25ias somewhere else is enough.

Concentration gives more damage bonus? I also got like 90 fhr

Concentration (45 + 15/level) has a little less % damage than

Fanaticism (33 + 17/Level)
(after level 6)

But maybe the
Uninterrupted Chance %: 20
compensate the difference if you don't need ar (

Smite always hits...) or speed

The

trikepatrol wrote: 10 months ago

uuee wrote: 10 months ago

fredkid wrote: 10 months ago

You have to include the

Guillaume's Face Deadly strike in the calculations too

Not for a smiter:)

BTW for a hammer/

Smite hybrid, I'd skip

Fanaticism altogether, and just use

Concentration while smiting.

Phase Blade needs 65 ias for 6fpa

Smite, so Grief (40ias) + 25ias somewhere else is enough.

Concentration gives more damage bonus? I also got like 90 fhr

fredkid wrote: 10 months ago

But maybe the
Uninterrupted Chance %: 20
compensate the difference if you don't need ar (

Smite always hits...) or speed

Smite is uninterruptible.

Concentration only has higher +% Damage than

Fanaticism at skill levels 1-5 (assuming they're at the same skill level). At skill levels 7+

Fanaticism has higher +% Damage, because it gets 17/level whereas

Concentration gets 15/level. But I guess the idea here is that if you're a Hammerdin you will already have a high level

Concentration - a Hammerdin maxes

Concentration (since it boosts

Blessed Hammer damage), and you would probably only invest a single hard point in

Fanaticism since you don't have a ton of spare points after maxing

Blessed Hammer and its synergies (80 skill points to max it, not including prerequisite skills).

ShadowHeart wrote: 10 months ago

fredkid wrote: 10 months ago

Concentration only has higher +% Damage than

Fanaticism at skill levels 1-5 (assuming they're at the same skill level). At skill levels 7+

Fanaticism has higher +% Damage, because it gets 17/level whereas

Concentration gets 15/level. But I guess the idea here is that if you're a Hammerdin you will already have a high level

Concentration - a Hammerdin maxes

Concentration (since it boosts

Blessed Hammer damage), and you would probably only invest a single hard point in

Fanaticism since you don't have a ton of spare points after maxing

Blessed Hammer and its synergies (80 skill points to max it, not including prerequisite skills).

That I understand but im at lv 94 so it's like 3 from being max at fanat

trikepatrol wrote: 10 months ago

That I understand but im at lv 94 so it's like 3 from being max at fanat

Well the difference in dmg between a lvl33 conc (540ed) vs a lvl33 fana (594ed) is not a big deal. You better spend those points on

Smite (15ed/point). Sg. like this (for a hammer focused hyb:P):

Prayer 1

Cleansing 1

Defiance 1

Vigor 20

Salvation or

Redemption optional 1pt

Might 1

Blessed Aim 20

Concentration 20

Sacrifice 1

Holy Bolt 1

Blessed Hammer 20

Charge 1

Holy Shield 1
Rest

Smite

A lot of good suggestions, but it would be helpful if you could provide some information on what the build is you're trying to improve. That would allow everyone to provide you with more targeted advice.