Hey, I know it's RNG, but I used to get more consistent outcome in the past.
I started running The Countess in Hell before The Summoner and Nihlathak. Guess what?
I barely have any Key of Terror. I did I did less than 50 The Countess runs before I started going The Summoner and Nihlathak. After that, I started counting them.
After 97 runs (each time I farm all of them, and in very little cases I die on Nihlathak just due to my stupidity) - I dropped 2 Key of Terror, 10! Key of Hate and 3 Key of Destruction.
Anyone else has this weird feeling they changed the Key drop rate?
I usually could give Key of Terror away for free, now I got to trade to get them.
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Hey, I know it's RNG, but I used to get more consistent outcome in the past.
I started running The Countess in Hell before The Summoner and Nihlathak. Guess what?
I barely have any Key of Terror. I did I did less than 50 The Countess runs before I started going The Summoner and Nihlathak. After that, I started counting them.
After 97 runs (each time I farm all of them, and in very little cases I die on Nihlathak just due to my stupidity) - I dropped 2 Key of Terror, 10! Key of Hate and 3 Key of Destruction.
Anyone else has this weird feeling they changed the Key drop rate?
I usually could give Key of Terror away for free, now I got to trade to get them.
Description by I started running The Countess in Hell before The Summoner and Nihlathak. Guess what?
I barely have any Key of Terror. I did I did less than 50 The Countess runs before I started going The Summoner and Nihlathak. After that, I started counting them.
After 97 runs (each time I farm all of them, and in very little cases I die on Nihlathak just due to my stupidity) - I dropped 2 Key of Terror, 10! Key of Hate and 3 Key of Destruction.
Anyone else has this weird feeling they changed the Key drop rate?
I usually could give Key of Terror away for free, now I got to trade to get them.
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They definitely have not changed. I highly recommend running them on p7 if you can find full games and you'll see a HUGE change.
Also fwiw, I run Nihlathak almost exclusively (he has the best drop rate) and ive gone 130+ runs without a Key. And ive also gotten 5 keys in 3 straight runs.
97 runs isn't enough to average out drop rates when it's like 1/13, 1/12 and 1/11. Need to get to like 1k.
Also fwiw, I run Nihlathak almost exclusively (he has the best drop rate) and ive gone 130+ runs without a Key. And ive also gotten 5 keys in 3 straight runs.
97 runs isn't enough to average out drop rates when it's like 1/13, 1/12 and 1/11. Need to get to like 1k.
"weird feeling" is the Key term here. rng is very abstract and hard to grasp and even harder to imagine.Psych00l wrote: 2 years ago Hey, I know it's RNG, but I used to get more consistent outcome in the past.
I started running The Countess in Hell before The Summoner and Nihlathak. Guess what?
I barely have any Key of Terror. I did I did less than 50 The Countess runs before I started going The Summoner and Nihlathak. After that, I started counting them.
After 97 runs (each time I farm all of them, and in very little cases I die on Nihlathak just due to my stupidity) - I dropped 2 Key of Terror, 10! Key of Hate and 3 Key of Destruction.
Anyone else has this weird feeling they changed the Key drop rate?
I usually could give Key of Terror away for free, now I got to trade to get them.
so no change, just your mind playing tricks on you.
Feels the same to me. I have hot streaks and I have long droughts. Same as before.
Feels same to me. Have collected only 2 sets this ladder though (still tedious)
Back before ladder, I did like two torches per day worth of Key sets, selling them for Gul to accumulate reliably a Vex/day. Thats how I afforded my Jah for my first Enigma (roughly Lo Lo Ohm back then, or 20 torches worth of Key sets selling unid torch for Gul).
Now I know better, so I mostly run Travincal, and only will start running keys once my smiter gets up and running (almost there he is lvl 80 and fully geared).
Back then people were still complaining about not getting the 1/12 chance reliably, and how drops had changed.
While I have not done too many runs recently, had partial sets sold as consequence of farming countess for runes and 2 complete Key sets to prove my barb could reliably farm ubers (Grief/Death Demon Limb and dual angelics, with Treachery/Duress combo).
Now I know better, so I mostly run Travincal, and only will start running keys once my smiter gets up and running (almost there he is lvl 80 and fully geared).
Back then people were still complaining about not getting the 1/12 chance reliably, and how drops had changed.
While I have not done too many runs recently, had partial sets sold as consequence of farming countess for runes and 2 complete Key sets to prove my barb could reliably farm ubers (Grief/Death Demon Limb and dual angelics, with Treachery/Duress combo).
I'm not sure you do.
Check out some RNG histograms, they are not random
They will definetly be consistent in some ways, and after certain amount of rolls, you'll see that.I played diablo 2 for years, and d2r drops, especialy recently feel really weird.
The only hunch that I may have is that they increased the drop of lower runes ( El to Ith) in Hell, as I have seen many more El s than I remember, this being even more with Eld (which I had not seen many in Hell before). It may just be RNG tough.
It took me 110 runs to get my first Key drop from Summoner back in March or so, if that helps put it in perspective. Then the next couple Key drops came after 10-15 runs or so each. RNG can be a BITCH.
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