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Hi to all the rich D2 players
(and of course us poor plebs as well).

Recently, I saw two things here that made me think
1) a lot of very generous people giving away high runes (or items of that value) for free and *)
2) a pair of
Boots
being valued ~150
Jah
's

My question to the people participating in these is: how did you manage to get that rich?
Did you find these runes? Trading?

I have been playing since the release of D2R and my entire equipment + stash is maybe worth ~15
Jah
.
I am aware that:
- my runs are probably not 100% efficient
- my trading skills are not perfect (although this site really helps)
- I have not consistently been grinding since it was released

My second question is, what do you do with these kinds of items?
Sure, the rolls were really nice (I don't remember the details), but the difference to "worthless" ones is 1-2 mod rolls.
In which scenario are the differences so relevant that you'd pay 150
Jah
?

When I see someone bidding 50+ high runes on incremental improvements I assume that this is not their entire worth, but merely a fraction.
Meanwhile I'm here after years of playing still collecting PAs and rals to slowly grind towards a couple of high runes.

After many years of non-ladder, how can you still make a profit


*) just wanted to
Shout
out these people, this is not a complaint ;) merely an observation.


/SuperIllu
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Hi to all the rich D2 players
(and of course us poor plebs as well).

Recently, I saw two things here that made me think
1) a lot of very generous people giving away high runes (or items of that value) for free and *)
2) a pair of
Boots
being valued ~150
Jah
's

My question to the people participating in these is: how did you manage to get that rich?
Did you find these runes? Trading?

I have been playing since the release of D2R and my entire equipment + stash is maybe worth ~15
Jah
.
I am aware that:
- my runs are probably not 100% efficient
- my trading skills are not perfect (although this site really helps)
- I have not consistently been grinding since it was released

My second question is, what do you do with these kinds of items?
Sure, the rolls were really nice (I don't remember the details), but the difference to "worthless" ones is 1-2 mod rolls.
In which scenario are the differences so relevant that you'd pay 150
Jah
?

When I see someone bidding 50+ high runes on incremental improvements I assume that this is not their entire worth, but merely a fraction.
Meanwhile I'm here after years of playing still collecting PAs and rals to slowly grind towards a couple of high runes.

After many years of non-ladder, how can you still make a profit


*) just wanted to
Shout
out these people, this is not a complaint ;) merely an observation.


/SuperIllu

All prices are negotiable.
All trades are Non-Ladder.
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I play D2 and d2r probably around 20 years. Found one
Jah
and few items worth
Ber
or
Jah
. And I play sometimes a lot...
So the answer is of course bots and having 5-8 open games (I not sure how to do but they do for sure)
So your bot is working all days in players 5 or 8

Another thing is d2jsp ....
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Im not rich as 150
Jah
.. maybe im close on non ladder with some items, but i dont think im that rich... traded 3 Perfect annis to 18--22
Jah
each over time, and i have 2 perfect annis left 1 on ladder 1 on non ladder, and also got some
Jah
's trading torches.

I farm keys / annis / bases and do Ubers i dont farm bosses alot except
Andariel
when TZ and i craft Amulets, but not much luck crafting amulets.

besides that make a ladder char and make a few mosaics / Cures and sell on non ladder after reset, its much easier than farming runes that 'never' drops
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As I am one of the people who have lately distributed items here free of
Charge
, I feel that I am being addressed peripherally (however, most of the items my sons and I gave away came from another player) 😉

First of all, I do not consider myself "rich" in comparison with many other players. I started playing D2 in June last year with my two sons and since then I suppose I have acquired a net worth of ca. 200
Jah
(I have ca. 100
Jah
in my stash and with the rest I bought items to equip the chars of my sons and my own - in sum 10 chars). Funnily, I initially planned we play completely selffound. But the kids soon found the big world of battlenet and joined games with "free items"😉

One strategy to get high runes quickly is farming
The Countess
on normal and selling these runes offsite in packs of 40-80. One user here reported that he got 150+
Jah
in one month by simply doing this 2 hours on weekdays and during weekends. But it seems to me it is not that easy to sell them as it was before. I still collect every low rune and gem and try to trade them. But, in my estimation, selling low runes takes longer than two or three months before and prices are dropping. I suspect the amount of people playing this game is continuously decreasing.

Since doing Countess runs seemed too boring to me and my kids have only limited screen time (for good reasons😉) I developed another strategy. We tracked DClones with an android app and with our three accounts we managed to get ca. 3-6 annis each walk. Until last ladder reset there were ca. 4-8 NL walks per day in Asia. For one walk we needed ca. 10 minutes (killing the DClones and opening new games). Since we also sleep, work and go to school 😉 we were able to do about 4 walks per day. Therefore, in a "good" week we managed to farm ca. 100 annis. We then sold the 100 unidentified annis to mainly two people who are probably very "rich" (maybe now not anymore 😁) for 8
Jah
. We were very lucky to have met them because there is not a big market for such trades 😉 Besides that a few weeks ago I found a charm which is worth 80+
Jah
which I sold for 50
Jah
and items worth 30
Jah
to someone here at diablo2.io.

Therefore, I think we had a nice strategy but of course there was very much luck involved, too. Had we not met trustworthy buyers for our annis and had I not found this charm things would certainly be different 🙂

EDIT: I found 2
Jah
myself! 😉😁

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
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Necrarch 2279Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
I am probably not filthy rich, but among the quite rich.

I also have an extremely low playtime, but a high PC uptime as I homework. Therefore, for a long time, I used to work with my personal PC next to me in a game on Asia, checked it every 2 hours or so, killed a potential DClone, reopened a game and went back to work. For something like 10 minutes of play per occurrence, I get 3 to 5 Annis a day. Well, does not work any more with way less Clones these days, but it worked for long time.

I kept the best Annis for my chars - my goal is to make my chars better, not getting runes for runes -, resold others and
Perfect Amethyst
after
Perfect Amethyst
, I made packs of 40-50 pammies that sell for
Jah
. Last week, finally got enough to buy my last Dream stuff for my main char : a 20/20 necro torch for about 12
Jah
+ 5
Ber
(also got a 20/20/10 Anni in the process way before). Now my bank is fully reset to its "reserve" (5 of each rune), but I feel this char is complete, and that's quite nice :)

I am pure single account, NL SC, but been playing in average 3-4 hours a week from the launch of D2R, and my first char is level 93.9 - soon at 94 I'll stop him, too boring to go over :)

To sum up :
- You can play legit (I mean with no jsp nor any use of real money - for me that's a sort of cheat, of course I can pay 10 € for that, but what's the game's point then ?) to a certain extent (and the more you play, the more wealthy you get - but even I with little play time ended up quite rich)
- You have to set your own goals - I chose the 20/20 torch only when all other goals were fulfilled, it seemed too far for a long time
- Be ready to be patient
- Try to find a way that works to gain Wealth. Clones, Countess, Trav runs, just playing all kinds of TZs...
- Of course it takes only one moment of mega luck (JMOD, 3/20/20) to become super rich instantly, but that's the same as winning the lottery in real life : it is too unlikely to be able to count on it.
- Mastering trading is rather useful too :)
- As for actual runes, the best I got dropping ever is
Ohm
. Seen twice.

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Main: Necromancer / Second: Assassin / Third: Amazon / Check my stash, my crafts and my many cheap
Annihilus
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I'm not rich, but I am comfortably wealthy with 20+ decently well-kitted characters. The two biggest things for building wealth (in my experience) are these:

1) Play in Hell difficulty. You just kind of find stuff of value as you play in Hell difficulty.

2) As something of a corollary to (1) - know what has value. Runeword bases, gems, jewels, runes, magic, rares, uniques - there are items of every category that are valuable to some extent (which is why I don't feel a loot filter would be particularly helpful in D2R, personally). To put it another way, it's more helpful to think of a 150
Jah
fortune as more like a 1200
Ist
fortune. You can accumulate an
Ist
rune worth of value without too much time invested. If you know how to separate the wheat from the chaff, you will slowly but surely build wealth.

All trades are Switch only :)

Active most nights on Switch (Friend Code: 8500-1494-0819) from 0200-0500 UTC+00:00

Thank you 2.4 for making all of my wildest dreams come true!
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ShadowHeart 3091Moderator

Paladin Europe PC Playstation
Trading, is my "secret". More specifically, unidentified annis on ladder - the basis of my "Wealth" (if it can be called that) is ladder annis. I don't make a lot of high profile trades, but I do sell a vast amount of unid annis over the course of a ladder season. I almost don't play non-ladder at all anymore, so pretty much everything that spills over from ladder into non-ladder feeds various giveaways that I try to hold here at diablo2.io now and then (I still have lots of stuff piled up, just gotta find the time to arrange something and come up with interesting ideas).

I always start each new ladder as a character that can easily kill dclone, so that I can take advantage of the early season dclone walks. Early season unid annis are worth Veh/
Ohm
each, even
Lo
+ for the very first 1 or 2 walks if you can catch those (you need to be in Hell within ~24 hours). Later on it's still
Mal
/
Ist
each, or
Ber
/
Jah
for 20-30 depending on ladder stage. The runes are used to improve my gear until I'm satisfied with where I'm at and with my dclone killing speed (usually a couple of weeks in), and then I basically stop improving my character.

I don't use subsequent Wealth to make micro-improvements (like getting a higher roll on an item I already have). If I managed to score a really high roll on a rune word I trade that off in a heartbeat and roll a new one for self use. I'm not into perfecting rolls, I very rarely trade for an item just because it's a higher roll than the same item I already have. I also don't think I have ever traded for ("bought") an item worth multiple
Ber
/
Jah
. Instead, when I'm satisifed with my ladder state, I enter the next stage (for me) of the season - where I just keep piling up the high runes. Some ladder seasons I try to make something of it with the end goal being some kind of giveaway, or I just let the runes spill over to non-ladder to give them away directly via some form of giveaway.

But yeah - almost all of my high runes come from annis on ladder. Some from high value items that I managed to find/roll, but not as much.

(the combination of regular ladder resets, the challenge of starting fresh, to get to hell fast, to be able to help people with dclones or rushes, and the idea of building Wealth to fund giveaways, is what keeps my interest in the game going strong)

I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
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Necrarch wrote: 3 weeks ago
I kept the best Annis for my chars - my goal is to make my chars better, not getting runes for runes
I completely agree 🙂 But looking at a stash tab with 100
Jah
is also somewhat satisfying (just kidding 😁 - I simply currently do not have any further "real" needs and I want to have still some potential for selffound improvement. Otherwise the game would be pointless, at least for me)

However, and this maybe addresses the second question of the OP, at some point the invest to improve a char increases astronomically. E. g. the charm I found was a pala combat skiller with +44 to life. With +42 to life the charm is worth ca. 30-35
Jah
, with +44 it is 80-110 and if you hit the jackpot with +45 it is approximately 200+
Jah
. Now, I suspect that no one will ever notice the difference between having a 42, 44 or 45 charm while playing. But many people are simply reaching for max. perfection and are therefore willing to pay these prices (and I can understand that very well, at least emotionally 😉).

My sons and I have sold more than 1500 annis so far and we know that at least two 20/20/10 where among them 😭😁 But I am fine with having an 18/20/9 or 19/19/9 anni for a fraction of what a 20/20/10 costs because I never would notice the difference while playing. But maybe if I had not to feed two kids, I would have acquired or kept one or two "unnecessary" things, too 😉 E. g. I'm still squinting at a 40/400 SUP PB Grief although I have a 39/396 SUP PB 😁

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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oOKIWIOo wrote: 3 weeks ago
the charm I found was a pala combat skiller with +44 to life.
i found such a skiller its on my non ladder paladin exactly 1 combat +44 life dropped in
Flayer Jungle
tz.
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ShadowHeart wrote: 3 weeks ago
I always start each new ladder as a character that can easily kill dclone, so that I can take advantage of the early season dclone walks. Early season unid annis are worth Veh/
Ohm
each, even
Lo
+ for the very first 1 or 2 walks if you can catch those (you need to be in Hell within ~24 hours).
If it is not your well-kept secret I would be very interested to know with which char and (selffound?) gear you manage to achieve this 🙂 It certainly sounds challenging - at least for me as a cozy NL only player😉
Illusions wrote: 3 weeks ago
i found such a skiller its on my non ladder paladin exactly 1 combat +44 life dropped in
Flayer Jungle
tz.
Nice, mine droped in Chaos TZ 🙂 I shortly deliberated if I should keep it as a "trophy". But my kids where screaming for better gear and therefore I finally decided to sell it 😁

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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ShadowHeart 3091Moderator

Paladin Europe PC Playstation
oOKIWIOo wrote: 3 weeks ago
If it is not your well-kept secret I would be very interested to know with which char and (selffound?) gear you manage to achieve this 🙂 It certainly sounds challenging - at least for me as a cozy NL only player😉
It's not a secret lol, but I also don't want to derail the topic too much. Without going into too much details, most of the time I start as a Paladin, classic strategy with
Holy Fire
until Act 4 Nightmare, then switch to a Tri-Brid build. I play pretty much only solo self-found until I hit Hell, then I usually make a
Key
trade or two to prepare my Smiter setup for the first walk, depending on what I'm lacking and can afford. You can make do with extremely little gear. It doesn't need to be pretty for the first walk, you just need to be able to get it done. And you need to play mostly non-stop from the reset (it resets at 2 in the night for me, but I typically start around 5-6 in the morning). I'm not exactly a speedrunner, so it takes me pretty much the whole day to get to Hell lol. If you want to know more, feel free to reach out on BNet :)

I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
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I just want to say that this is a really interesting topic. I've often wondered this same thing myself - "who is doing these massive trades and how did they get there?"

My first time playing as a pally this year - tri-build is the most fun I've had and most good stuff I've found. Though not even close to what has been described above, but I've found
Steelrend
, decent
Eth
Reapers, and a perf 807
Eth
sup
Dusk Shroud
. And of course those ridiculous
Eth
4/40 javs with fool's mod (which I refuse to
Charsi
) But I get a nice dopamine hit even if I find a
Pul
rune lol.

I think one of the most rewarding things of this game is learning the system, and recognizing the valuable items. After all these years, I cannot imagine how many
Jah
's worth of items dropped and I walked right by.

For one small tip - 'sometimes' you can find someone trading a perfect base without sockets for cheap. Snatch it up, try to cube it with the right amount of sockets and sell it for profit.

It is nonsense how much more a perfect item will grab. And though I don't care about min/maxing myself, it's cool to see them move around the market.

Youtube is also fun, since some people will show all their trades to literally get geared up within a week of ladder.

Keep this thread going, it's awesome to hear how veterans have prospered over time.

Check my stash for other useful (or useless) items.
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SuperIllu wrote: 3 weeks ago
Hi to all the rich D2 players
(and of course us poor plebs as well).

Recently, I saw two things here that made me think
1) a lot of very generous people giving away high runes (or items of that value) for free and *)
2) a pair of
Boots
being valued ~150
Jah
's

My question to the people participating in these is: how did you manage to get that rich?
Did you find these runes? Trading?

I have been playing since the release of D2R and my entire equipment + stash is maybe worth ~15
Jah
.
I am aware that:
- my runs are probably not 100% efficient
- my trading skills are not perfect (although this site really helps)
- I have not consistently been grinding since it was released

My second question is, what do you do with these kinds of items?
Sure, the rolls were really nice (I don't remember the details), but the difference to "worthless" ones is 1-2 mod rolls.
In which scenario are the differences so relevant that you'd pay 150
Jah
?

When I see someone bidding 50+ high runes on incremental improvements I assume that this is not their entire worth, but merely a fraction.
Meanwhile I'm here after years of playing still collecting PAs and rals to slowly grind towards a couple of high runes.

After many years of non-ladder, how can you still make a profit


*) just wanted to
Shout
out these people, this is not a complaint ;) merely an observation.


/SuperIllu
Well, in my case it's due to obsessive compulsive tendencies.

But seriously though, I have a playgroup (4 people) we loot and pool stuff together. I am nowhere near as rich as some folks because I host drop parties when my stashes are full.

I also don't usually trade outside of this group, we just pool the loot.

Lots of folks use that trading webpage to get rich. 🙄 it's not my way.

An empty storage to me is the richest I can be because if it is all full, I can't collect more loot.
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MagicPants wrote: 3 weeks ago
I think one of the most rewarding things of this game is learning the system, and recognizing the valuable items. After all these years, I cannot imagine how many
Jah
's worth of items dropped and I walked right by.
Yep, I surely missed at least one Jeweler’s
Monarch
of Deflecting 😉😁

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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uuee 99

Europe PC
MagicPants wrote: 3 weeks ago
I think one of the most rewarding things of this game is learning the system, and recognizing the valuable items.
Very much this. Even seemingly useless items can be worthy on the market (like i've sold a perf
Schaefer's Hammer
for 15 jahs, even though for 99% of the builds a low rolled Grief pb is a much better option. A few days ago I've also sold a perf
Lance Guard
for a
Jah
...). ID almost everything for the chance of a perfect roll.
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I've got around 600
Jah
worth of runes and items. None from RMT or D2JSP. There are people who have WAY MORE Wealth than me. Like in the 10k
Jah
Wealth. A rare
Axe
sold for $17k(USD) a while back.

I've only found maybe 10-15
Jah
worth of HRs. So nearly all of my Wealth came from 4 categories:

1) Trading and knowing the market. Having your finger on the market's pulse, can yield massive Wealth. I started with small trades. Selling 40 pgem for
Ist
. But its all about knowing a deal when you see one and grabbing it. Knowing what your items are worth and not underselling. I did quite of bit of cross platform trading too. I needed to know in real-time two markets. The PC and xbox markets. Buy on one and resell on another. For a long time I'd buy a
3x3 Keyset
on PC for a
Lo
, run ubers, and then sell the unid torch on xbox for
Jah
. Take that
Jah
, break it into 3
Lo
also on xbox, rinse and repeat. I also used to buy 10x
Hel
on xbox for
Ist
and then resell 25x
Hel
on PC for
Jah
. These become boring for me though and I'm always trying to find a new angle.

2) Crafting. I got lucky very early on and crafted an amulet worth 30
Jah
. I sold that and used those
Jah
to snowball my Wealth building. I've scaled back my crafting though. I don't do it for Wealth building specifically, I do it because its a facet of the game I really enjoy. That rush of transmuting and seeing if I got anything good.

3) Volume. The more things you have listed for sale (and priced accurately) the more likely you are to sell something. I try to keep about 100 items for sale here at any given time spread out over all categories: jewels, charms, unqiues, sets, rares, bases, etc. Valuable items take time to sell. If you have 2-3 valuable items for sale it'll take a while to sell stuff. Even selling 1-2 small items a day will keep you motivated to keep going and not give up.

4) Knowing what is actually valuable. A few people here have mentioned this but surprising things will sell for large amounts. Especially perfect rolled items. Mav gloves? Worthless. Perfect Mav gloves is a
Jah
. People collect perfect items so even if its a crappy item, if its a perfect roll someone will want it for their collection. Certain rares and blues can also sell for ungodly amounts. I'll pick up certain rares but I just don't pick up blues (charms and jewels I'll grab no matter what). I find it simply too annoying and the rates of finding something good are abysmal. Don't cube your runes, any of them (well maybe
Shael
). But runes like
El
,
Eld
,
Tir
in large batches can sell for HRs.


Take away here: Look at recent trades and see what is actually selling. You'd be surprised what people want to buy and for how much.

I am permanently no longer accepting
Ort
or
Thul
runes as trade currency
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I started playing one year ago, and I have 20 heroes at level 91-95. Most of them are 93 or 94 because I usually play solo.

I am not rich by all means, but my heroes are geared very well* and all of them are able to play any area in the game without dying.

*My definition of "very well" is: BiS items on most slots, capped resistances, at least a mediocre or higher Anni and Torch, inventory filled with skillers and 11% resist or 20 life charms or better.

Over the course of the last year I found approximately 20 high runes. High runes are very hard to come by, so these are the only thing I am trading for.

My self-imposed rules are:

Prime directive: I don't rush. Never. All my heroes have solo'ed the game up to
Baal
in hell difficulty. Some of them I have played together with a friend or my wife.

Item rules:

-don't buy stuff except runes
-sell perfect items, keep almost perfect items for myself
-cube
Dol
runes to
Hel
,
Tal
runes to
Ral
and sell them for
Ist
runes
-cube all runes from
Io
to
Lem

-don't cube runes higher than
Lem

-cube highlevel Grand Charms to make skillers
-sell perfect amethysts for
Ist
runes
-sell superior bases, keep perfectly rolled non-superior bases for myself (few exceptions like phase blades, bows or merc gear)
-all my runewords are self-rolled in self-found bases
-always pick up jewels, charms, amazon bows, druid pelts, staves, blue monarchs and sought-after uniques/rares/set items
-give away low rolled runewords and other gear I don't need to new players or friends

That's pretty much it. I never counted my Wealth, but I guess I have stuff worth several hundred
Jah
runes.

I just wanna play the game, try new builds, make use of all 4 merc types and so on.

My long-term goal is to have 24 well geared high level heroes of all classes and complete the holy grail with the least trade effort possible.

ElSolDolLol

For low items I also accept: Perfect Amys,
Ral
,
Hel
, Tokens, Keys. Please don't offer runes lower than
Pul
(with the named exceptions).

NO PM OFFERS PLEASE! BE FAIR AND WRITE INTO THE THREAD :)
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DasNarf wrote: 3 weeks ago
Prime directive: I don't rush. Never. All my heroes have solo'ed the game up to
Baal
in hell difficulty. Some of them I have played together with a friend or my wife.
+1

But we kept a few max rolled items and use them for our own chars. It simply feels good having and using my perfect
String of Ears
or
Bul-Kathos' Wedding Band
knowing that we found those items ourselves 😉😊

I also bought some charms (like skillers or dmg/ar/mf (all)res/mf sc) and gear - especially when the runewords have a wide range for rolls (like CTAs) or are ladder only (like Mosaic). I rather spend a few
Jah
for a good roll than burning them myself with mediocre results 😉

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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I dont believe any
Boots
are worth 150 jahs unless its very late of the season where jahs are worthless due to the rampant botting.

P.S
Whats the fun in getting rushed? I love to run through and gain items / levels in the progress. Its imo much more annoying to level and gear after already lvl 1 at hell act5
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OP
Semirotta wrote: 3 weeks ago
I dont believe any
Boots
are worth 150 jahs unless its very late of the season where jahs are worthless due to the rampant botting.

P.S
Whats the fun in getting rushed? I love to run through and gain items / levels in the progress. Its imo much more annoying to level and gear after already lvl 1 at hell act5
;)

All prices are negotiable.
All trades are Non-Ladder.
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