I'd like to see the answers, not only to learn use cases but also actually start to use them, if it's possible. There are some obvious items like Harlequin Crest, of course, but let's get beyond them.
Let me start:
Fury Druid:
I use mostly ethereal The Reaper's Toll, even if eBotD Thunder Maul or eDeath Decapitator is much better.
Strafe Amazon:
I use Windforce, Faith on Grand Mathron Bow is mostly better choice.
Zeal Paladin:
Grief is an obvious option, but I like using ethereal Astreon's Iron Ward and Heaven's Light.
Frenzy Barbarian:
Double Grief is BIS, but I like using Grief - Doombringer combo.
Nova Sorceress:
Majority prefers self-wield Infinity, but my choice is Mang Song's Lesson.
Summon Necromancer:
Arm of King Leoric is BIS for me. Boneflame as shield also good. And of course Marrowwalk. This way I get 50 to Raise Skeleton and 52 to Skeleton Mastery.
Let's see what you got!
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I'd like to see the answers, not only to learn use cases but also actually start to use them, if it's possible. There are some obvious items like Harlequin Crest, of course, but let's get beyond them.
Let me start:
Fury Druid:
I use mostly ethereal The Reaper's Toll, even if eBotD Thunder Maul or eDeath Decapitator is much better.
Strafe Amazon:
I use Windforce, Faith on Grand Mathron Bow is mostly better choice.
Zeal Paladin:
Grief is an obvious option, but I like using ethereal Astreon's Iron Ward and Heaven's Light.
Frenzy Barbarian:
Double Grief is BIS, but I like using Grief - Doombringer combo.
Nova Sorceress:
Majority prefers self-wield Infinity, but my choice is Mang Song's Lesson.
Summon Necromancer:
Arm of King Leoric is BIS for me. Boneflame as shield also good. And of course Marrowwalk. This way I get 50 to Raise Skeleton and 52 to Skeleton Mastery.
Let's see what you got!
Description by Let me start:
Fury Druid:
I use mostly ethereal The Reaper's Toll, even if eBotD Thunder Maul or eDeath Decapitator is much better.
Strafe Amazon:
I use Windforce, Faith on Grand Mathron Bow is mostly better choice.
Zeal Paladin:
Grief is an obvious option, but I like using ethereal Astreon's Iron Ward and Heaven's Light.
Frenzy Barbarian:
Double Grief is BIS, but I like using Grief - Doombringer combo.
Nova Sorceress:
Majority prefers self-wield Infinity, but my choice is Mang Song's Lesson.
Summon Necromancer:
Arm of King Leoric is BIS for me. Boneflame as shield also good. And of course Marrowwalk. This way I get 50 to Raise Skeleton and 52 to Skeleton Mastery.
Let's see what you got!
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Windforce is and remains unbeaten and top tier. ![Razz :P](https://diablo2.io/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
Upped, Cham'd, Eth. Vampire Gaze for mercs is severely underrated.
There's a handful of melee builds that can actually make exceptional use of Nightsmoke.
Kira's Guardian is equally quite underrated. Somewhat understandable as it doesn't offer any skills, ed, fcr, ias or any of that but the core def stats it does offer, it covers so well that it shines via significantly opening up other slots/gear options in return.
Mang Song's Lesson is actually surprisingly close to top-tier, albeit only for 1-2 builds (and often enough free or like 1 p. gem as noone realizes it).
Widowmaker is some gimmicky sniper builds' best friend.![Smile :)](https://diablo2.io/images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
Many starting smiters still don't realize just how good a Shael'd Wizardspike is as a cheap first weapon to go after ubers with. Metric tons of res + 6-frame Smite with a measly lvl 20 base fana = win.
Honorable mention to Boneshade and Homunculus, both of which feel somewhat underrated despite being GG for a number of (Bone) necro variations.
Most others are relatively obvious I suppose.
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Upped, Cham'd, Eth. Vampire Gaze for mercs is severely underrated.
There's a handful of melee builds that can actually make exceptional use of Nightsmoke.
Kira's Guardian is equally quite underrated. Somewhat understandable as it doesn't offer any skills, ed, fcr, ias or any of that but the core def stats it does offer, it covers so well that it shines via significantly opening up other slots/gear options in return.
Mang Song's Lesson is actually surprisingly close to top-tier, albeit only for 1-2 builds (and often enough free or like 1 p. gem as noone realizes it).
Widowmaker is some gimmicky sniper builds' best friend.
![Smile :)](https://diablo2.io/images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
Many starting smiters still don't realize just how good a Shael'd Wizardspike is as a cheap first weapon to go after ubers with. Metric tons of res + 6-frame Smite with a measly lvl 20 base fana = win.
Honorable mention to Boneshade and Homunculus, both of which feel somewhat underrated despite being GG for a number of (Bone) necro variations.
Most others are relatively obvious I suppose.
What combo?basicnecromancy wrote: 2 months ago Frenzy Barbarian:
Double Grief is BIS, but I like using Grief - Doombringer combo.
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Shaftstop is sometimes used for Merc too
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Yeah, well, I'll try soon Doombringer - The Grandfather combo but for now this is good.fredkid wrote: 2 months agoWhat combo?basicnecromancy wrote: 2 months ago Frenzy Barbarian:
Double Grief is BIS, but I like using Grief - Doombringer combo.![]()
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U go WF i go Witchwild.
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Witchwild String Upped shaeled Eth etc
Atma's Scarab
Laying of Hands
wear whatever gear that works best with CTC
L20 Strafe
Back up Frozen arrow
Free L20 Magic Arrow "normal" attack.
Oh yes please buy my boneshades ..they are supppppeeerrr underrated and gathering dust.
my gypsyzon
or should i say "WWS"?
Witchwild String Upped shaeled Eth etc
Atma's Scarab
Laying of Hands
wear whatever gear that works best with CTC
L20 Strafe
Back up Frozen arrow
Free L20 Magic Arrow "normal" attack.
Oh yes please buy my boneshades ..they are supppppeeerrr underrated and gathering dust.
Offer if price is not stated
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upped Eth Headstriker on act 5 merc is only beaten by Grief by a very small percentage.
+1 to the upped Shael'd Witchwild String
+1 to the upped Shael'd Witchwild String
I am a Boneshade + Homunc user on my max block Bone necro build. ![Smile :)](https://diablo2.io/images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
As for my sin, she wears full Natalya + Chaos, while my Zon wears full Disciple with either Faith or upped Eth Titan's on swap. Sub-optimal for sure, but lots of fun.
My summoner necro swaps between Leoric and Beast also while using Full Trangs.
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As for my sin, she wears full Natalya + Chaos, while my Zon wears full Disciple with either Faith or upped Eth Titan's on swap. Sub-optimal for sure, but lots of fun.
My summoner necro swaps between Leoric and Beast also while using Full Trangs.
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Just out of curiosity, I was planning to do the same regarding the Natalya set sin, what did you socket your armor with? Also, not sure if it matters, Chaos on main hand or off hand?Necrarch wrote: 2 months ago I am a Boneshade + Homunc user on my max block Bone necro build.
As for my sin, she wears full Natalya + Chaos, while my Zon wears full Disciple with either Faith or upped Eth Titan's on swap. Sub-optimal for sure, but lots of fun.
My summoner necro swaps between Leoric and Beast also while using Full Trangs.
Nat : triple lightning facet (4/-5) as I mainly use Lightning Sentry while spinning
Chaos is in a greater or Runic Talons so is on main hand - rule of thumb is "Quicker on main hand"
Chaos is in a greater or Runic Talons so is on main hand - rule of thumb is "Quicker on main hand"
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Ah so, nice one your Witchwild. Should try that as well. With Shael and Eth rune?Skaijuice wrote: 2 months ago U go WF i go Witchwild.
my gypsyzon
or should i saw "WWS"?
Witchwild String Upped shaeled Eth etc
Atma's Scarab
Laying of Hands
wear whatever gear that works best with CTC
L20 Strafe
Back up Frozen arrow
Free L20 Magic Arrow "normal" attack.
Oh yes please buy my boneshades ..they are supppppeeerrr underrated and gathering dust.
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* I trade both ladder and non-ladder, please check before asking.
* All my trades are for runes, keys (especially KoT and KoH) and essences!
Yes it's a route you can take, too.basicnecromancy wrote: 1 month agoAh so, nice one your Witchwild. Should try that as well. With Shael and Eth rune?Skaijuice wrote: 2 months ago U go WF i go Witchwild.
my gypsyzon
or should i saw "WWS"?
Witchwild String Upped shaeled Eth etc
Atma's Scarab
Laying of Hands
wear whatever gear that works best with CTC
L20 Strafe
Back up Frozen arrow
Free L20 Magic Arrow "normal" attack.
Oh yes please buy my boneshades ..they are supppppeeerrr underrated and gathering dust.
Amp dmg removes any PI that block your path. Of course the L20 magic Arrows help when 1) u could not proc amp dmg 2) u run out of Arrows
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The play style doesn't fit all, but if you like to be a chess player to bend the field to your advantage the skills i use are
1) Decoy
2) Slow Missiles
3) frozen arrow
4) Valk
Positioning is Key for Strafe to go 1 direction and you'll be a nice glass cannon.
Just be ware of frenzied aura enchanted Death lords.
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Flowers are only flowers because they fall,
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Thanks bud.Skaijuice wrote: 1 month ago
Yes it's a route you can take, too.
Amp dmg removes any PI that block your path. Of course the L20 magic Arrows help when 1) u could not proc amp dmg 2) u run out of Arrows
The play style doesn't fit all, but if you like to be a chess player to bend the field to your advantage the skills i use are
1) Decoy
2) Slow Missiles
3) frozen arrow
4) Valk
Positioning is Key for Strafe to go 1 direction and you'll be a nice glass cannon.
Just be ware of frenzied aura enchanted Death lords.
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* I trade both ladder and non-ladder, please check before asking.
* All my trades are for runes, keys (especially KoT and KoH) and essences!
My ladder sorc has revolved around the Naj's set items. She found a Skull Collector runestaff somewhere in Nightmare and I made a second ladder character - a Necro Lord of Mages!
Yeah there are better options but style is everything.
Yeah there are better options but style is everything.
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This could be far more viable if it has 30 FCR or like. But seems good anyway.Stofsk wrote: 1 month ago My ladder sorc has revolved around the Naj's set items. She found a Skull Collector runestaff somewhere in Nightmare and I made a second ladder character - a Necro Lord of Mages!
Yeah there are better options but style is everything.
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* All my trades are for runes, keys (especially KoT and KoH) and essences!
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By the way, Buriza-Do Kyanon is such fun to play. I need to hear ideas, thouch. Should I upgrade it or not? Not sure if it brings significant difference. And socket it with what? It has enough IAS so I thought Lo or Ohm would be good but ope for ideas.
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@Schnorki "Upped, Cham'd, Eth. Vampire Gaze for mercs is severely underrated." This is my favorite merc helmet no question about it.
Oh yeah. Honestly a Mang Song's Lesson would be better, in every way, especially because both share the same model. But, well, I don't have one of those, so,basicnecromancy wrote: 1 month agoThis could be far more viable if it has 30 FCR or like. But seems good anyway.Stofsk wrote: 1 month ago My ladder sorc has revolved around the Naj's set items. She found a Skull Collector runestaff somewhere in Nightmare and I made a second ladder character - a Necro Lord of Mages!
Yeah there are better options but style is everything.
I've wanted to do a bowsin that uses a Buriza for a long time now. I actually tried in a previous season but she died in Countess tower in Hell. I would have upped it if I had one, not sure what to socket it with tho.basicnecromancy wrote: 1 month ago By the way, Buriza-Do Kyanon is such fun to play. I need to hear ideas, thouch. Should I upgrade it or not? Not sure if it brings significant difference. And socket it with what? It has enough IAS so I thought Lo or Ohm would be good but ope for ideas.
If you prefer druid Buriza-Do Kyanon works great as a melee weapon when your transformed for a feral druid, had lots fun leveling my feral druid with it this ladder.Stofsk wrote: 1 month agoOh yeah. Honestly a Mang Song's Lesson would be better, in every way, especially because both share the same model. But, well, I don't have one of those, so,basicnecromancy wrote: 1 month agoThis could be far more viable if it has 30 FCR or like. But seems good anyway.Stofsk wrote: 1 month ago My ladder sorc has revolved around the Naj's set items. She found a Skull Collector runestaff somewhere in Nightmare and I made a second ladder character - a Necro Lord of Mages!
Yeah there are better options but style is everything.
I've wanted to do a bowsin that uses a Buriza for a long time now. I actually tried in a previous season but she died in Countess tower in Hell. I would have upped it if I had one, not sure what to socket it with tho.basicnecromancy wrote: 1 month ago By the way, Buriza-Do Kyanon is such fun to play. I need to hear ideas, thouch. Should I upgrade it or not? Not sure if it brings significant difference. And socket it with what? It has enough IAS so I thought Lo or Ohm would be good but ope for ideas.
Just don't forget Bolts or you can't attack them when your transformed
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