act one merc set ups

i have a pretty geared Mosaic kicksin. was wondering what you guys think would be an interesting set up for Paige. (all other act one rogues (shes an amazon now?) are inferior)

some notes. i dont need Infinity at this point its "win more" im not even using a sunder charm and i can farm all places

im hesitant to use Faith for the fanat. will more atk speed help? does it affect kicks? it certainly will help her but im at 7 kicks and already sometimes get locked a bit. sweet spot seems to be 5-6 kicks. might respec for that.

ive read manic pixie thread. Delirium seems interesting but i wouldnt know what to pair it with lol. i dont need Insight really either. Help!

if u dont need an aura or decrep, delerium + Mist (100

Pierce) + Hustle would work

Even Harmony could be useful for the faster run/walk, if you really don't need any aura or dmg from the merc

nihilninja wrote: 5 months ago

i have a pretty geared Mosaic kicksin. was wondering what you guys think would be an interesting set up for Paige. (all other act one rogues (shes an amazon now?) are inferior)

some notes. i dont need Infinity at this point its "win more" im not even using a sunder charm and i can farm all places

im hesitant to use Faith for the fanat. will more atk speed help? does it affect kicks? it certainly will help her but im at 7 kicks and already sometimes get locked a bit. sweet spot seems to be 5-6 kicks. might respec for that.

ive read manic pixie thread. Delirium seems interesting but i wouldnt know what to pair it with lol. i dont need Insight really either. Help!

I don't recommend using Delirium on your Merc if you just want to fast clear mobs. It's a very good

Helm, but it's unfriendly to melee build. The level 18

Confuse will affect the whole screen's mobs, which is about 15 yards or so, most of them will stop and fight each other nearby. Even you have an Enigma to

Teleport, it still takes longer time to kill than they are going after you directly.
I would use the Cure for her instead, cause the poison damage is really annoying, but it's just me.
As for a Faith bow on the Merc, the

Fanaticism may help you on the attack ratings, probably a bigger help on the initial charge up phase. How big help, I don't know. If you have a Hustle bow, you can try on your Merc to see how level 1

Fanaticism affects you.
Last, just out of curiosity, what finish move are you using?

Flyhorse wrote: 5 months ago

I don't recommend using Delirium on your Merc if you just want to fast clear mobs. It's a very good

Helm, but it's unfriendly to melee build. The level 18

Confuse will affect the whole screen's mobs, which is about 15 yards or so, most of them will stop and fight each other nearby. Even you have an Enigma to

Teleport, it still takes longer time to kill than they are going after you directly.

Another thing from Delirium that could slow you down are the

Mind Blast triggers, as you can't kill the affected monsters... so, if you want to kill everybody, sometimes you need to wait the effect expire....

Flyhorse wrote: 5 months ago

nihilninja wrote: 5 months ago

i have a pretty geared Mosaic kicksin. was wondering what you guys think would be an interesting set up for Paige. (all other act one rogues (shes an amazon now?) are inferior)

some notes. i dont need Infinity at this point its "win more" im not even using a sunder charm and i can farm all places

im hesitant to use Faith for the fanat. will more atk speed help? does it affect kicks? it certainly will help her but im at 7 kicks and already sometimes get locked a bit. sweet spot seems to be 5-6 kicks. might respec for that.

ive read manic pixie thread. Delirium seems interesting but i wouldnt know what to pair it with lol. i dont need Insight really either. Help!

I don't recommend using Delirium on your Merc if you just want to fast clear mobs. It's a very good

Helm, but it's unfriendly to melee build. The level 18

Confuse will affect the whole screen's mobs, which is about 15 yards or so, most of them will stop and fight each other nearby. Even you have an Enigma to

Teleport, it still takes longer time to kill than they are going after you directly.
I would use the Cure for her instead, cause the poison damage is really annoying, but it's just me.
As for a Faith bow on the Merc, the

Fanaticism may help you on the attack ratings, probably a bigger help on the initial charge up phase. How big help, I don't know. If you have a Hustle bow, you can try on your Merc to see how level 1

Fanaticism affects you.
Last, just out of curiosity, what finish move are you using?

thanks for the heads up. that would be annoying. I prefer to kick so I use

Dragon Tail. the knock back is sometimes annoying but it doesnt work on bosses and it still triggers the massive aoe that all the charges do so the knock back hasnt been an issue
you can always also do a normal attack to release which is highly under valued

I haven't run it myself, but I've seen an Ice setup before with nightwings and Chains of Honor. This is an old dbrunski video. Useful utility, if you want some extra safety, and decent damage according to the video

nihilninja wrote: 5 months ago

Flyhorse wrote: 5 months ago

nihilninja wrote: 5 months ago

i have a pretty geared Mosaic kicksin. was wondering what you guys think would be an interesting set up for Paige. (all other act one rogues (shes an amazon now?) are inferior)

some notes. i dont need Infinity at this point its "win more" im not even using a sunder charm and i can farm all places

im hesitant to use Faith for the fanat. will more atk speed help? does it affect kicks? it certainly will help her but im at 7 kicks and already sometimes get locked a bit. sweet spot seems to be 5-6 kicks. might respec for that.

ive read manic pixie thread. Delirium seems interesting but i wouldnt know what to pair it with lol. i dont need Insight really either. Help!

I don't recommend using Delirium on your Merc if you just want to fast clear mobs. It's a very good

Helm, but it's unfriendly to melee build. The level 18

Confuse will affect the whole screen's mobs, which is about 15 yards or so, most of them will stop and fight each other nearby. Even you have an Enigma to

Teleport, it still takes longer time to kill than they are going after you directly.
I would use the Cure for her instead, cause the poison damage is really annoying, but it's just me.
As for a Faith bow on the Merc, the

Fanaticism may help you on the attack ratings, probably a bigger help on the initial charge up phase. How big help, I don't know. If you have a Hustle bow, you can try on your Merc to see how level 1

Fanaticism affects you.
Last, just out of curiosity, what finish move are you using?

thanks for the heads up. that would be annoying. I prefer to kick so I use

Dragon Tail. the knock back is sometimes annoying but it doesnt work on bosses and it still triggers the massive aoe that all the charges do so the knock back hasnt been an issue
you can always also do a normal attack to release which is highly under valued

It seems there is a bug related to

Dragon Tail. Let's say an annimation doesn't reflect real calculation bug.
With 2 x Mosaic granted 100% not consume the charges, using a finish move non-stop becomes an option, that is also making the

Dragon Tail bug much more noticable. The bug is:
With

Dragon Tail build, the longer you hold the short key to

Dragon Tail (which means more casts), the longer you will be locked (sorta) later on, you can't move or

Teleport etc....

I actually tested this bug with my sin who has 40 IAS and level 9

Burst of Speed. The detail is this:
Cast

Burst of Speed, Charge up then shift +

Dragon Tail for a period of time, when I see the mana is up and down stop cast

Dragon Tail and move forward, then I got port back to the spot where I cast

Dragon Tail.
Maybe that's why you got locked a bit as well.

Simple explanation of the cause of this bug is:

Dragon Tail does physical damage then fire damage which converted from physical. When calculates the attack speed, the 2nd part damage attack speed will have a speed penalty, which includes quite few components in the attack speed formula. This is not that most important part.
The reason that this bug happens because the animation didn't display the speed penalty by frame, but the real system calculation had that part in the formula, the result is you will get locked when you cast

Dragon Tail non-stop for quite a period of time. You still see the animation of

Dragon Tail, but most cast does no damage.

How to overcome this bug?
1. The easiest one is to cast

Fade instead of

Burst of Speed, or just don't cast

Burst of Speed.
2. With 40 + IAS and at least level 9 or 14

Burst of Speed (I have question on the level #, but I think level 14 is more than enough),

Dragon Tail will get to 7F. After this, keep increasing IAS will not benefit to your killing performance, however the increased speed will overcome the bug if it's enough.

Edit 1: I suddenly realized that since you experienced the

Dragon Tail's bug, then

Fanaticism becomes a must to eliminate the bug. The bug still exists, but the speed boost from

Fanaticism on Hustle / Faith will overcome the speed penalty, resulting in a normal

Dragon Tail finish move. Better try Hustle bow 1st to avoid spending too much on making Faith if you haven't had already.

Edit 2: Did a few times wording edit, trying to explain clear.

Personnally I love the Manic Pixie Dreamgirl setup on my own sin (though she is more a trapper than an MA sin)

(For the record : forums/manic-pixie-dreamgirl-an-alterna ... 65231.html )

Ice (Mat Bow) / Delirium / Treachery.

The permanent

Confuse cast just makes crowd control super easy... and is really funny to see, especially when she turns into an undead doll.

Sure, she does not kill much herself but with a Mosaic sin you don't really mind. And as for

Mind Blast actually it can give you an enemy to bounce on and recharge your Mosaics.

Flyhorse wrote: 5 months ago

I don't recommend using Delirium on your Merc if you just want to fast clear mobs. It's a very good

Helm, but it's unfriendly to melee build.

Au contraire monsieur!

Confuse has a very nice side effect: it attracts all enemies in their viewing range! As soon as the first curse procs, additional monsters join the fight from quite afar (approx. one screen). They all come to you for slapsgiving.

Test it in a cow level to pile up dozens of cows and smash em all at once. My Hammerdin loves his Manic Pixie Dreamgirl.

Here some pics from my Summoner Druid:
Take note of the upper left corner, even more cows joining the massacre!
Line on the left, one cross each.