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Uber Ancients builds (post 3.3)

BigD · 2026-08-29T11:19:04-07:00

With patch 3.3 (or was it 3.2? someone please correct me if I'm wrong), most of you are aware the Uber Ancients were buffed. Buffed, arguably, by a non-insig…

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BigD `549`

2 hours ago (pre-Resurrected)

Bertram The Cursed wrote: 4 hours ago
Did anyone try out a Cleave Warlock against the uber ancients? More or less with same gear as a smiter focused an Res+CB+Lifetab (+attackrating)? In demon tree maybe just Consume for life and cb + Level 10 Sigil Lethargy and then everything else in eldritch skills. Can he out lifetab the damage from ancients like a smiter does? I mean he should be better in dealing with all of the minions cause of the 360 attack and be a great lifetabber cause he hits mulitple enemies. Thoughts?

If you're talking about using only Cleave vs Uber Ancients, it's probably a bad idea. 13FPA is the max for Cleave vs 10FPA for Mirrored Blades, so it's gonna feel slow vs MB. Plus, with Uber ancients the minions are more of a distraction than anything else. Big priority targets should be ancients themselves.

To get the 360 degree arc you'll likely need to invest more than a few points into Cleave, which in my experience does more harm than good because firstly it isn't much more effective than a 220-230 degree arc, which is pretty easily achievable with 1 hard point and +skills on your gear. Secondly, those skill points are better invested elsewhere, such as the demon skill tree (again speaking from my own experience).

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Bertram The Cursed `65`

1 hour ago (pre-Resurrected)

BigD wrote: 2 hours ago

Bertram The Cursed wrote: 4 hours ago
Did anyone try out a Cleave Warlock against the uber ancients? More or less with same gear as a smiter focused an Res+CB+Lifetab (+attackrating)? In demon tree maybe just Consume for life and cb + Level 10 Sigil Lethargy and then everything else in eldritch skills. Can he out lifetab the damage from ancients like a smiter does? I mean he should be better in dealing with all of the minions cause of the 360 attack and be a great lifetabber cause he hits mulitple enemies. Thoughts?
If you're talking about using only Cleave vs Uber Ancients, it's probably a bad idea. 13FPA is the max for Cleave vs 10FPA for Mirrored Blades, so it's gonna feel slow vs MB. Plus, with Uber ancients the minions are more of a distraction than anything else. Big priority targets should be ancients themselves.

To get the 360 degree arc you'll likely need to invest more than a few points into Cleave, which in my experience does more harm than good because firstly it isn't much more effective than a 220-230 degree arc, which is pretty easily achievable with 1 hard point and +skills on your gear. Secondly, those skill points are better invested elsewhere, such as the demon skill tree (again speaking from my own experience).

But when you use Cleave, every enemy you hit is basically + Life for you. So i think as long as you fight more than 2 or 3 enemies it could be better using Cleave instead of Mirrored Blades.

Further a demon maybe can distract them, so you dont have to deal with all at once, but thats it. You cannot use a cursed demon nor does he any damage. With eldritch tree maxed out you get the highest damage+ the needed attackrating.

So my question is, can you Cleave through and maybe finish the last one with Mirrored Blades or is Mirrored Blades so much superior even in this setting with all the minions, 3 ancients etc.

Isnt it difficult to hit the right enemy in melee infight with Mirrored Blades or Smite?

SizzleZap `26`

44 minutes ago (pre-Resurrected)

tgods is mostly for uber meph lightning. You probably would be better off with String of Ears vs ancients. I always preferred Chains of Honor for uber smiter.

Grain of salt I have not collected enough statues to even try uber ancients yet ... just farmed a LOT of torches back in the day!