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Just hit 88 and respecced from Fury wolf to fire bear and gave Chaos Sanct a try to get a feel for the build. Spec below:

Fireclaws 20
Synergies 40
Maul
20
Shockwave 1
Prereqs 1
2 spirits 1

And I'm starting to add to
Armageddon
, think 9 or so points in now. Equipped: +3 fireclaws Metamorphosis, Obedience superior (13% ed)
Thresher
, Treachery
Archon Plate
,
Laying of Hands
, Highlords Wrath, BK ring, don't remember ring#2, Goreriders, Verdungo (Nosferato as alternative for more leach/ias), high roll anni, high roll torch, couple skillers and a bunch of varied resist charms.

Experience so far-
Pros: It seems that
Fire Claws
hits nice and hard. Pretty fast when
Maul
stacks are up and Marks are active. Bear is cool. Shockwave is excellent.

Cons:
Fire Claws
and
Maul
only hit one at a time. I suppose this could be mitigated by switching to Fury WW, but then I'm playing a Fury playstyle and not a
Fire Claws
playstyle. I thought Fury was slow. This is agonizingly slow. Does not handle density well.
Armageddon
doesn't seem like it does much, but perhaps that is b/c it isn't maxed out yet. I still can't imagine it clearing anything in higher Player counts. Perhaps when running dual Phoenix. I basically just
Maul
or Claw in a pack while a ton of monsters
Swarm
me and hit me from all sides. Sometimes I tank them just fine, but I'm also going through lots and lots of potions. My Act 5 merc does a commendable job, but without me able to hit more than one thing at a time, he gets overwhelmed also. He wears Treachery in
Eth
Kraken, Bukwark
Fury Visor
with +2
Iron Skin
, Mania
Eth
Cryptic Sword
and Lawbringer
Phase Blade
.

I imagine Fire Bear is a good boss killer, but really bad at clear. I am wondering if it is worth the effort to level into high 90s or not. I may switch back to Fury and work toward eBOTD/eDeath just to "complete the build", because investing into single or dual Phoenix doesn't seem worth it if the character remains super slow.

Am I being too hasty?
5

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Just hit 88 and respecced from Fury wolf to fire bear and gave Chaos Sanct a try to get a feel for the build. Spec below:

Fireclaws 20
Synergies 40
Maul
20
Shockwave 1
Prereqs 1
2 spirits 1

And I'm starting to add to
Armageddon
, think 9 or so points in now. Equipped: +3 fireclaws Metamorphosis, Obedience superior (13% ed)
Thresher
, Treachery
Archon Plate
,
Laying of Hands
, Highlords Wrath, BK ring, don't remember ring#2, Goreriders, Verdungo (Nosferato as alternative for more leach/ias), high roll anni, high roll torch, couple skillers and a bunch of varied resist charms.

Experience so far-
Pros: It seems that
Fire Claws
hits nice and hard. Pretty fast when
Maul
stacks are up and Marks are active. Bear is cool. Shockwave is excellent.

Cons:
Fire Claws
and
Maul
only hit one at a time. I suppose this could be mitigated by switching to Fury WW, but then I'm playing a Fury playstyle and not a
Fire Claws
playstyle. I thought Fury was slow. This is agonizingly slow. Does not handle density well.
Armageddon
doesn't seem like it does much, but perhaps that is b/c it isn't maxed out yet. I still can't imagine it clearing anything in higher Player counts. Perhaps when running dual Phoenix. I basically just
Maul
or Claw in a pack while a ton of monsters
Swarm
me and hit me from all sides. Sometimes I tank them just fine, but I'm also going through lots and lots of potions. My Act 5 merc does a commendable job, but without me able to hit more than one thing at a time, he gets overwhelmed also. He wears Treachery in
Eth
Kraken, Bukwark
Fury Visor
with +2
Iron Skin
, Mania
Eth
Cryptic Sword
and Lawbringer
Phase Blade
.

I imagine Fire Bear is a good boss killer, but really bad at clear. I am wondering if it is worth the effort to level into high 90s or not. I may switch back to Fury and work toward eBOTD/eDeath just to "complete the build", because investing into single or dual Phoenix doesn't seem worth it if the character remains super slow.

Am I being too hasty?
7
thanks for the heads-up. I also thought experience will be like this. I have 3OS fire claw +1Fury head and a
Cham
on ladder. I think head will go to
Charsi
.
Cham
can be used better elsewhere.
7
Yea, nobody's ever accused Fire Claw druid of being S-tier or even A-tier. That's why you rarely see them around.
7
As a long-time
Fury: Skill
player, yes, you only try
Fire Claws
once.

Then you have a story to tell your grandchildren about the time you were bored out of your mind playing your favorite game.

GMT-3
I only play softcore, non-ladder.

> Free Annihilus <
> Free sunder charms <
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Whero 48

Barbarian Americas Switch
I only use Druid on hardcore.
7
OP
human_being wrote: 3 hours ago
As a long-time
Fury: Skill
player, yes, you only try
Fire Claws
once.

Then you have a story to tell your grandchildren about the time you were bored out of your mind playing your favorite game.
Good laugh there. Back to
Fury: Skill
for me. I am wondering, is there a point of diminishing returns with
Werewolf
: Skill and
Lycanthropy
where it would be better to put points into
Summon Grizzly
synergies (i.e.,
Summon Dire Wolf
)? Or is it pretty straightforward, max both?
7
No. But regardless, I'd take the smallest increase in damage, attack rating, life, or attack speed over double all of those qualities for my summons (other than your choice of spirit). 1 point is plenty for your furry meat shields.
FerociousTerrier wrote: 2 hours ago
human_being wrote: 3 hours ago
As a long-time
Fury: Skill
player, yes, you only try
Fire Claws
once.

Then you have a story to tell your grandchildren about the time you were bored out of your mind playing your favorite game.
Good laugh there. Back to
Fury: Skill
for me. I am wondering, is there a point of diminishing returns with
Werewolf
: Skill and
Lycanthropy
where it would be better to put points into
Summon Grizzly
synergies (i.e.,
Summon Dire Wolf
)? Or is it pretty straightforward, max both?

GMT-3
I only play softcore, non-ladder.

> Free Annihilus <
> Free sunder charms <
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FerociousTerrier wrote: 2 hours ago
human_being wrote: 3 hours ago
As a long-time
Fury: Skill
player, yes, you only try
Fire Claws
once.

Then you have a story to tell your grandchildren about the time you were bored out of your mind playing your favorite game.
Good laugh there. Back to
Fury: Skill
for me. I am wondering, is there a point of diminishing returns with
Werewolf
: Skill and
Lycanthropy
where it would be better to put points into
Summon Grizzly
synergies (i.e.,
Summon Dire Wolf
)? Or is it pretty straightforward, max both?
On P1-P3 I choose to have 80 points invested in the summoning. Left over goes to Fury and Lycantropy.
Then after releasing all the zoo (+4 Skill Arioc sockedted with -physical Stone) I swap to reapers Toll and run right to
Baal
.
a2 Merc is having Infinity so our gang almost never miss targets.
Not a perfect build. I was just boring seeing my summoner ravens do the job and doing nothing myself. Never done mush theory crafting on him. Just took stuff from shared stash and it works.

I don't think it will work on higher player counts. But for P1-P3 full shapeshifting Fury druid is overkill.
7
i've been having this obsessive idea of a fire druid with double Phoenix.. shall i forget it or is there something to it?
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