Show off your demons!

I'm using a Megademon from Furnace of Pain. He's not perfect but he does the job:

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

Binding her just to hear the Thorns aura sfx hurt my heart ...

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Actual bis uber bind, just to get Vigor.......... Meanwhile every time i bind a trash demon i get Fanaticism

The hunt continues. Or is it time to make Beast ?

For my Fire WL, Vigor is the aura I look for, I love it. That demon is sick, just wish she had Stone skin as it helps a ton with lancer survivability. If so, I would really want her for my fire WL.

Side note - wouldn't it be cool if you could sell/trade your bound demon to another WL?

Would love that. Pokemon at this finest lol

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

Binding her just to hear the Thorns aura sfx hurt my heart ...

Screenshot 2026-07-08 045734.jpg

Actual bis uber bind, just to get Vigor.......... Meanwhile every time i bind a trash demon i get Fanaticism

The hunt continues. Or is it time to make Beast ?

Have you found she can tank OK in Uber Tristram and Ancients? Mine had a bad time with Lilith, but she found Lilith way before I did, so I didn't even notice her health drop. I had to port out a few times with a failed Ancients attempt, but she held long enough for me to react. I didn't have these affixes though.

I'm wondering if Stone Skin + Cursed + Magic Resistant would be the best tank version of Lancer. Tradeoff is fewer Amp procs, but you would still gain Cold Immunity (I think), up to 85% fire res and 83% physical res. Nothing you can do about poison, which is stuck at 15% res. Absolute Beast if you get Fanaticism or Concentration.

varangium wrote: 1 month ago

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

Binding her just to hear the Thorns aura sfx hurt my heart ...

Screenshot 2026-07-08 045734.jpg

Actual bis uber bind, just to get Vigor.......... Meanwhile every time i bind a trash demon i get Fanaticism

The hunt continues. Or is it time to make Beast ?

For my Fire WL, Vigor is the aura I look for, I love it. That demon is sick, just wish she had Stone skin as it helps a ton with lancer survivability. If so, I would really want her for my fire WL.

Side note - wouldn't it be cool if you could sell/trade your bound demon to another WL?

I briefly had a Ghostly dark lancer, whoch comes inherent with 80% physical resistance (just 3% shy of Stone skin) and lightning immune. Downside is no other affixes (but inherent increases to AR and Hp), but she was cool!

wait ghosts (apparition they are called i believe) in the tombs do lightning dmg?

that kinda explains why they instantly deleted a normally almost immortal Valkyrie a couple of weeks back - she must have been not immune, and lightning dmg can roll extremely high. makes sense?

and btw.. valk is the best minion

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

Rhaegar86 wrote: 1 month ago

Ghost Heralds

Someone's demon isn't lightning immune

ganseng wrote: 1 month ago

wait ghosts (apparition they are called i believe) in the tombs do lightning dmg?

Pretty sure they were referring to Willowisps, not Wraiths.

Willowisps, Wraiths and Finger Mages are sometimes collectively referred to as ghosts.

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

Also wanted to add, Colossal Summit is pretty much a non-option unless you have triple immune (so, lightning and cold + Flickering Flame). Any demon (ime) will die in 2-3 hits at best to the ancient they're not immune to

Try a Megademon from the Furnace of Pain if you're a mixed chaos/eldtrich build

Uber Tristram only needs lightning immune

Interesting, I had thought about doing the light/cold immune + flickering come combo, but I wasn’t sure if it would work. Do you use a lancer or Blunderbore or some thing else? EDIT: never mind, I saw you said Blunderbore, makes sense

Presumably Flickering Flame doesn’t make them immune, but perhaps it takes them to 95% and that’s why it works.

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

varangium wrote: 1 month ago

Interesting, I had thought about doing the light/cold immune + flickering come combo, but I wasn’t sure if it would work. Do you use a lancer or Blunderbore or some thing else? EDIT: never mind, I saw you said Blunderbore, makes sense

Presumably Flickering Flame doesn’t make them immune, but perhaps it takes them to 95% and that’s why it works.

Any demon likely works, ive used lancer and Blunderbore

Also Flickering Flame does make them immune^^

Also having a Tainted out works.

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

It works to make them immune but i find it's not enough resist after Uber Talic's Conviction to be reliably survivable

The reason is that the game handles immunities and the breaking of them differently depending on how the immunity was granted.

For an inherent immunity (via base resistance or granted via an elite mob modifier like lightning enchanted - lightning and cold in this example), Conviction suffers the 1/5 penalty just like for players when breaking enemy immunities.

For immunities granted via skills (such as auras), Conviction works at full effect.

So it helps a lot if your demon has high base fire resistance and/or some modifier that increases its fire resistance without making it immune.

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

(Not sure the base resists for Matron's Den lancer) but Blunderbore (gorebelly/mauler variant) has 50% base fire, so 110% with Tainted and 150% with Flickering Flame. Meaning demon is taking 80% more fire damage after Uber Talic Conviction with Tainted vs Flickering Flame

Theoretically you could bind one with “Magic Resistant”, which adds +40% to each of cold, fire and lightning as long as it doesn’t increase an existing immunity or create a third immunity (each element considered individually). The gorebelly/mauler would then have 90% base fire resistance (before any aura). But finding the correct combo can be quite time consuming, made worse by each additional requirement we add, as we all know.

ShadowHeart wrote: 1 month ago

kerph wrote: 1 month ago

(Not sure the base resists for Matron's Den lancer) but Blunderbore (gorebelly/mauler variant) has 50% base fire, so 110% with Tainted and 150% with Flickering Flame. Meaning demon is taking 80% more fire damage after Uber Talic Conviction with Tainted vs Flickering Flame

Theoretically you could bind one with “Magic Resistant”, which adds +40% to each of cold, fire and lightning as long as it doesn’t increase an existing immunity or create a third immunity (each element considered individually). The gorebelly/mauler would then have 90% base fire resistance (before any aura). But finding the correct combo can be quite time consuming, made worse by each additional requirement we add, as we all know.

Don't forget that Spectral Hit granted from Bind Demon also adds 20% resists so long as no third immunity is granted. My understanding is that the Magic Resistant 40% would be applied first as part of the demon's pre-existing stats (but I don't really know this), and that Spectral Hit resists would simply be skipped if the Blunderbore already has two immunities, or grant the second if no second immunity exists.

One thing you said "as long as it doesn’t increase an existing immunity", I did not know this. I read about the immunity checks to prevent a third immunity if the monster isn't inherently immune to 3+, but I didn't know it could not add to an existing immunity, e.g., take 100% lightning resist and increase to 140%. Is that true?

FerociousTerrier wrote: 1 month ago

One thing you said "as long as it doesn’t increase an existing immunity", I did not know this. I read about the immunity checks to prevent a third immunity if the monster isn't inherently immune to 3+, but I didn't know it could not add to an existing immunity, e.g., take 100% lightning resist and increase to 140%. Is that true?

Yes, all unique mob modifiers that add resistances have checks that (a) they don’t create a third immunity and (b) that they don’t increase an existing immunity - (c) a few also have an additional specific condition.

Stone Skin adds +50% physical resistance, but only if physical resistance is <100% and if it does not result in a third immunity.

Magic Resistant adds +40% to each of cold, fire and lightning resistance (in that order), but only if they’re <100% and if it does not result in a third immunity (each element considered individually).

Spectral Hit adds +20% to each of cold, fire and lightning resistance (in that order), but only if they’re <75% and it does not result in a third immunity (each element considered individually).

Cold Enchanted, Fire Enchanted and Lightning Enchanted all add +75% to the respective elemental resistance, but only if it is <100% and it does not result in a third immunity.

Mana Burn adds +20% magic resistance, but only if it’s <100% and it does not result in a third immunity.

Source for all of this info is Amazon Basin.

One more thing to consider is that mods (and their respective effects/conditions) are applied in the order they appear under the mob’s name. This can have a significant effect on the mob’s resulting resistances and immunities - for example, if a mob type has 50% in each of cold, fire and lightning resistance, and an elite of that mob type spawns with both Magic Resistant and Spectral Hit it will have very different results depending on the order of the mods. If Magic Resistant is listed first, it will have 90/90/90, but if Spectral Hit is listed first, it will have 110/110/70.

I’m not 100% sure what happens with Bind Demon, but I’d assume that Bind Demon modifiers are considered after the elite’s natural modifiers. Would be great if someone could confirm this though (it should be testable). You should also be able to easily test the “not increase existing immunity”, if you want, by finding an elite mob of a mob type with 100% base resistance to some element and that has the Magic Resistant property or <Element> Enchanted, and see if you can break it with Conviction or Lower Resist (without a sunder, obviously).