3.2 Demon Build Tainted Synergies

Looking to respec now that the patch has hit, but I am unsure about point distribution.

Fixed skills:
20

Demonic Mastery
20

Bind Demon

Tainted vs. Pure Boiler:

Tainted Pros // Cons: hitting about 17.6K apiece with max

Blood Boil, only one synergy to max // nothing, as far as I can tell
Boil Pros // Cons: about 6.9K mix of fire/physical AOE damage // mana cost, demon health cost (maybe negligible), 2 synergies to max
*note: only considering lower end of damage range because I'm lazy

In either

Tainted or Boiler case,

Blood Boil gets maxed. So starting from there, looking at the damage differential from one or the other:

Boil: Going from 6.9K fully synergized to 4.5K only partially synergized, but that's AOE so potentially multiplied loss of damage

Tainted: moving 19 points from

Blood Oath &

Engorge to

Summon Tainted, damage goes from 4.9K per

Tainted to 17.6K per

Tainted (using 20%

Blood Boil bonus)

I think

Tainted is the winner for me since I can still be boiling for only ~1/3rd loss of boil damage. Also more dynamic use of demons.

Now for the major question! What is the optimal distribution of points in

Blood Oath and

Engorge? Where is the sweet spot of both?

More Pros // Cons:

Blood Oath: More life for Demons // no idea what the health caps are now, so no idea when

Blood Oath stops adding to

Bind Demon's health, Resist All probably not doing much for my demons since they're already near max resists (unless Resist All includes Poison and/or Magic) and goes from 69% with 1 point to 75% with maxed points, damage transfer

Cap of 50% reached with only 4 hard points in

Blood Oath (assuming soft points count).

Engorge: Heal demon goes from 55% with 1 pt to 74% with max pts; Life steal from 65% to 103% // no change in attack speed, lose defense/replenish life bonus from

Blood Oath synergy, no idea if there are caps

Both provide the same synergy bonus to

Blood Boil. Given the above, I have no idea which is better to put points into. Bit of both? Edit: Maxroll seems to dislike when I copy part of the screen and removes my +skills. With my +skills from gear, 1 point in

Blood Oath and 1 point in

Engorge == levels 23 and 26, respectively. And that is leaving 21 points to distribute between the two skills.


Also, is Lethargy worth a point still?

I went with 0(zero) points in

Bind Demon.

My skills:

Blood Boil,

Tainted,

Blood Oath,

Engorge,

Demonic Mastery.
1point in Hex Syphon and

Sigil Death (6points spent)
No defilers, no consuming or binding.
You need to spawn

Tainted with as much -fire resist as possible.

I am not sure why do you need binded demon. No

Conviction anymore. You either put Infinity on your merc or use it yourself if you have nothing better (like MangSong).
If you really need

Bind Demon go with one point only, Bind terrorized P5-8 Temptess from WSK or Hihlathak dungeon. They do curse all the tiime. And they don't rush into battle.

dionisy_cn wrote: 42 minutes ago

I went with 0(zero) points in

Bind Demon.

My skills:

Blood Boil,

Tainted,

Blood Oath,

Engorge,

Demonic Mastery.
1point in Hex Syphon and

Sigil Death (6points spent)
No defilers, no consuming or binding.
You need to spawn

Tainted with as much -fire resist as possible.

I am not sure why do you need binded demon. No

Conviction anymore. You either put Infinity on your merc or use it yourself if you have nothing better (like MangSong).
If you really need

Bind Demon go with one point only, Bind terrorized P5-8 Temptess from WSK or Hihlathak dungeon. They do curse all the tiime. And they don't rush into battle.

Build is still centered around bound demon, which is the novelty and the draw of the build--lots of other builds that do more damage. Just figuring out the best supplement to my bound demon. Defilers work and the bound demon basically kills trash in groups of 10 at a time in P8 with one or two hits, pack leaders in 2-3 hits. So I'm not feeling inadequate with the build, but exploring the other demon options.

Perhaps two

Tainted plus a maxed out unique demon isn't better than demon + defilers, but might be nice to switch in for Stone Skins or Physical Immunes instead of spamming boil. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯