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Ugh, not this shit again. Once again, just like everything else in D2 and life. Its up to a person's definition of perfect. Functionally perfect, aesthetically perfect, literally perfect, etc.

If I'm looking for a perfect CTA, IDGAF about the ed or warcry roll. I will continue to and unabashedly use the perfect tag for both literally and functionally perfect items.

On a separate and definitely unrelated note: I really wish there was a way to hide entire forum topics.

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ghostpos wrote: 11 hours ago
I know how hardcore this community is with information/accuracy so I don't abuse the tag myself. But boy when an item have 6 affix rolls and the most important of them roll perfect with some useless imperfect, it's frustrating not to highlight in a special way.
I might be wrong but when you create a listing to sell or buy, you select the said item through the search, ei astreon and click on the astreon, user then can also type in some texts on the same headline as the astreon ei: astreon perfect ed and 85 dmg roll

And when others search for astreon, yours should be populated in the listing…i believe done this a few times on some items i sell and it shows up on the listing when i search for the said item

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d2rppa69 wrote: 5 hours ago
ghostpos wrote: 11 hours ago
I know how hardcore this community is with information/accuracy so I don't abuse the tag myself. But boy when an item have 6 affix rolls and the most important of them roll perfect with some useless imperfect, it's frustrating not to highlight in a special way.
I might be wrong but when you create a listing to sell or buy, you select the said item through the search, ei astreon and click on the astreon, user then can also type in some texts on the same headline as the astreon ei: astreon perfect ed and 85 dmg roll

And when others search for astreon, yours should be populated in the listing…i believe done this a few times on some items i sell and it shows up on the listing when i search for the said item
When you do this, the item no longer shows in the list of items available for to on the item page. For your example, I would not see your listing on the
Astreon's Iron Ward
. So you exclude the people who don't search for an item but only look via the item pages.

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Knappogue wrote: 5 hours ago
d2rppa69 wrote: 5 hours ago
ghostpos wrote: 11 hours ago
I know how hardcore this community is with information/accuracy so I don't abuse the tag myself. But boy when an item have 6 affix rolls and the most important of them roll perfect with some useless imperfect, it's frustrating not to highlight in a special way.
I might be wrong but when you create a listing to sell or buy, you select the said item through the search, ei astreon and click on the astreon, user then can also type in some texts on the same headline as the astreon ei: astreon perfect ed and 85 dmg roll

And when others search for astreon, yours should be populated in the listing…i believe done this a few times on some items i sell and it shows up on the listing when i search for the said item
When you do this, the item no longer shows in the list of items available for to on the item page. For your example, I would not see your listing on the
Astreon's Iron Ward
. So you exclude the people who don't search for an item but only look via the item pages.
I thought when i did this i was able to see my own listing when searching for it

Let me test it later to confirm

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d2rppa69 wrote: 4 hours ago
I thought when i did this i was able to see my own listing when searching for it

Let me test it later to confirm
I have this rare
Jawbone Visor
for sale. Where I customized the item title (and has been for a while), and it does not show up in the
Jawbone Visor
page.
trade/jawbone-visor-lld-4bo-t1527095.html

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Nearly Perfect tag would be great because I feel corny using Perfect if it isn't 100% perfect, but at the same time, if it's just some minor stat that most people don't care about that didn't roll perfect, I'd like to be able to use some sort of tag.

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Schnorki 5073Moderator

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You know what'd be better than a perfect/near perfect tag?

Stat search.

Much as I dislike Traderie overall (starting with the fact that you can't even sign up because they don't know what a valid email looks like...), they did get the search part right. Being able to specify min and max values for every single stat on the item doesn't just make searches in general a lot better but it also solves the "perfect, close to perfect, nowhere near, ..." issue as you simply put in the perfect values as the min for whichever stats you consider "sufficient to call it perfect".

Needless to say though that'd also be quite a bit of work for Teebs.
But hey, @Teebling, if you ever get truly bored... :D

A simple "perfect" tag plus "near perfect" tag on the other hand really won't work reliably and I for one wouldn't even know how to moderate it as the definition for perfect really does depend on the person.
E.g. if every "rolled extra stat" is perfect but the base defense isn't, is that perfect or not? Ask 3 people and you'll get 3 different answers. Even more so for non-elite items where base def wouldn't matter when upgrading but rolls do. But not everyone upgrades. So..ya know..pure Chaos and endless debate guaranteed.
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rixsen 101

RotW Europe PC
Schnorki wrote: 4 hours ago
You know what'd be better than a perfect/near perfect tag?

Stat search.
Yes!! From the bottom of my heart... Please!
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Knappogue wrote: 4 hours ago
d2rppa69 wrote: 4 hours ago
I thought when i did this i was able to see my own listing when searching for it

Let me test it later to confirm
I have this rare
Jawbone Visor
for sale. Where I customized the item title (and has been for a while), and it does not show up in the
Jawbone Visor
page.
trade/jawbone-visor-lld-4bo-t1527095.html

So i just did a test with a listing for
:

Breath of the Dying

I selected Breath of the Dying on the search to sell, then typed additional info 403%ed 15LL and submit the post for sell

Then did a search for Breath of the Dying, the current active listing doesnt seem to show my recently created ebotd,

However, if i click on the “view all listing” button, i do see my Breath of the Dying listing from the ‘view all listing’ list

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d2rppa69 wrote: 3 hours ago
However, if i click on the “view all listing” button, i do see my Breath of the Dying listing from the ‘view all listing’ list
Yes - clicking "see all listings" does a trade search for the item name. So any item with that name + specifics will still show up. It just does not show in the small window on the specific item page.

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Knappogue wrote: 3 hours ago
d2rppa69 wrote: 3 hours ago
However, if i click on the “view all listing” button, i do see my Breath of the Dying listing from the ‘view all listing’ list
Yes - clicking "see all listings" does a trade search for the item name. So any item with that name + specifics will still show up. It just does not show in the small window on the specific item page.
So i guess that solves the semi perf scenario in which one can use to specify important of certain stat value on their listing without resulting into using perf tag ;)

But yeah if it shows up on small window after the search, that would be even better, maybe teebling can remedy that easily?

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Teebling 9394Admin

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I'd love to bring granular stat listings/filtering/sorting/searching to match Traderie, but as Schnork says it's a tonne of work!

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Teebling wrote: 1 hour ago
I'd love to bring granular stat listings/filtering/sorting/searching to match Traderie, but as Schnork says it's a tonne of work!

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kerph 21

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Lesad2 wrote: 12 hours ago
So, we open this again? ^_^
Just add new label "CLOSE TO PERFECT", "PERFECT / 2", "PARTLY PERFECT", etc, etc
Its gonna fix everything.
100% perf items should have their own tag, otherwise, like someone said up, u wont find them in mass of "partly perfect" items.
I feel like this would really negatively impact discoverability. I never find there to be enough of really any item tagged as perfect to make it an actual issue to search amongst them for a 100% item

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kerph 21

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Teebling wrote: 1 hour ago
I'd love to bring granular stat listings/filtering/sorting/searching to match Traderie, but as Schnork says it's a tonne of work!
Sorry to derail the topic a little, and i'm sure you've been asked b4, but have u ever considered open-sourcing/crowd-sourcing the development of parts of the site, like for a new search function? I'm sure there are many here who would be willing to contribute to something like that, myself included 😊
Totally understand that a project like tht has plenty of complexities on its own though

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