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How do you feel about the
Bind Demon
+ Hork bug?

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Total votes: 16
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Honestly, this bug completely killed my enjoyment of the game.

Knowing that people can just generate corpses and spam hork for basically free loot makes normal farming feel pointless. I don’t see much reason to keep grinding when something like this exists.

At the same time, abusing it doesn’t feel right either - it just removes any sense of progression or achievement.

What frustrates me the most is that this has already been reported and is clearly known, yet Blizzard hasn’t done anything about it so far

How do you guys feel about it?
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Honestly, this bug completely killed my enjoyment of the game.

Knowing that people can just generate corpses and spam hork for basically free loot makes normal farming feel pointless. I don’t see much reason to keep grinding when something like this exists.

At the same time, abusing it doesn’t feel right either - it just removes any sense of progression or achievement.

What frustrates me the most is that this has already been reported and is clearly known, yet Blizzard hasn’t done anything about it so far

How do you guys feel about it?
7
User avatar

fredkid 2057

RotW Warlock Americas PC
I'm trying to look at this as just another "somewhat efficient and extremely boring" way of farming.... like
Lower Kurast
farming...

That said, I ignored it, and keep doing my regular play...

I even thought about trying once (just to test...), but ended up quitting... Don't want to spend time after that farming for another good
Bind Demon
target....

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion (RotW only)
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=9 |
Zod
= 12
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User avatar

ShadowHeart 5866Moderator

RotW Paladin Europe PC Playstation
This exploit was hotfixed yesterday:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t ... 312/174742

I'm in CET (Central European Time)
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
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User avatar

fredkid 2057

RotW Warlock Americas PC
They waited April 1st ended :-P
ShadowHeart wrote: 5 hours ago
This exploit was hotfixed yesterday:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t ... 312/174742

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion (RotW only)
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=9 |
Zod
= 12
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User avatar

ShadowHeart 5866Moderator

RotW Paladin Europe PC Playstation
I don’t know when this was initially discovered, but as far as I know it didn’t become public knowledge until Coooley’s video - though I’m fairly certain that some parties have been abusing the hell out of it for a while without anyone being the wiser. At least it’s fixed now.

They really could have used a proper PTR before ladder started…

I'm in CET (Central European Time)
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
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Such a game breaking bug, hopefully itll be fixed asap (should already be fixed imo), but most likely must wait for the next ladder at best.

I dislike cheaters and bug abusers strongly. These types of people are the ones into all kinds of grifts and scams.
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User avatar

ShadowHeart 5866Moderator

RotW Paladin Europe PC Playstation
Semirotta wrote: 5 hours ago
Such a game breaking bug, hopefully itll be fixed asap (should already be fixed imo), but most likely must wait for the next ladder at best.
It was already hotfixed yesterday, like I noted in a post above :)

I'm in CET (Central European Time)
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
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folks, just came back from a long hiatus, playing a warlock at the moment, anyone enlightening me what's this shenanigan?
7
User avatar

fredkid 2057

RotW Warlock Americas PC
As the bug if fixed... I think we can talk about it 🤔

If warlock
Bind Demon
a
Fetish Shaman
and leave the game out of town, the bounded demon corpse can be target by skills (in special
Find Item
...)
weegee wrote: 3 hours ago
folks, just came back from a long hiatus, playing a warlock at the moment, anyone enlightening me what's this shenanigan?

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion (RotW only)
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=9 |
Zod
= 12
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User avatar

sbn 79

RotW Paladin Americas PC
#1 I truly doubt this exploit as it was really had much impact. Still need a full game of 8 players, and 7 Warlocks to be joining and existing over and over.

8 players could also just join a TZ game and probably just clear the area and the result would be the same in my opinion.

#2 Truly honestly did this impact anyone? Some players I do not even know exist are in a game I do not know exists doing something just has no impact on the rest of us playing in our own games. If one felt this was a bad and wrong exploitation, simply just do not do it. All that is left.

People screaming on Blizzards forum like this is the end of the world, the game is destroyed. Simply not, few players took advantage of something devs were too shortsighted or this shows lack of testing. The ladder itself is no longer new, people are getting bored so they do stupid things and most likely this was discovered by some players just bored.
7
User avatar

leox 366

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
sbn wrote: 2 hours ago
#1 I truly doubt this exploit as it was really had much impact. Still need a full game of 8 players, and 7 Warlocks to be joining and existing over and over.

8 players could also just join a TZ game and probably just clear the area and the result would be the same in my opinion.

#2 Truly honestly did this impact anyone? Some players I do not even know exist are in a game I do not know exists doing something just has no impact on the rest of us playing in our own games. If one felt this was a bad and wrong exploitation, simply just do not do it. All that is left.

People screaming on Blizzards forum like this is the end of the world, the game is destroyed. Simply not, few players took advantage of something devs were too shortsighted or this shows lack of testing. The ladder itself is no longer new, people are getting bored so they do stupid things and most likely this was discovered by some players just bored.
This actually depends on how you play game.
Some people like to feel Wealth by comparison, that will impact those value orient play.
These player usually think like, I get super good roll of
Crown of Ages
, it is 10
Jah
. Or I loot super good small charm, 3/20/20 , it 'was' 150
Jah
, now it is only 40
Jah
. Or people who used to have too many
Jah
, they need space by switch it to 5/20, it was 30
Jah
, now it is only 15-18
Jah
.
Those thing hurt people's feeling. These bug only affect rotw player , old world economic still similar to thing we used to think and only have minor impact. That makes old LoD runes is not equal to new world runes, it is like ladder and non ladder , same rune have different value.
This issue create too many uniques, most not so good roll is 0 value now.

They was need several hours to clean up garbage.

Before this bug is fix, some people set up a machine, one hook, one do rejoin/move to port / quit repeat script while they were away. Every 30 min or so , there will be massive of trash there can't display. [I dont think this is fun , even if everyone make it valid, make things pointless, I think original bug finder also thinks value is not good so make it public known, too many things, small charm created]

I was think bilizzard might recycle those, turns out no. That make things interesting, several set or more worth item create by this way, kill 80% of existing item value. Meaning if you go to trade market, things will be like Chaos, anyway, it is only non ladder, you still can play next ladder game. It will be fair in next ladder.

--it was act like this-
one warlock use shade, create a3 tz, go capture shaman. prepare bar.
open room, bar join, port to a4 , quit. bar hook.
This create 2 elite tz corpse every 10 second.

You get job garbage filter, it was several week before it public known.

I dont like rotw because I feel it is buggy, things like this. But yet, warlock still fun, if you play to reach mid-high lv and quit, it is still very worth play.

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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