My first full key set!

Finally! After a very long time farming The Countess I have managed to get a 3x3 set. Phew!

Now... I don't think I actually have the guts to go through with the full Ubers. I don't think I'm prepared enough and I don't think I fully understand what goes on with it.

Any help pointing me in the right direction is greatly appreciated!

I'm biased, but I would only do ubers with a pally.

ES warlock could probably do it too, but it's untested (but likely very good). I don't know if it has enough survivability for me personally.

If you need some help make game. I'll give you a hand and walk you through it (if NL softcore.

id like to try if i can beat ubers, so if you are going in make me know

Phreekz wrote: 4 months ago

Finally! After a very long time farming The Countess I have managed to get a 3x3 set. Phew!

Now... I don't think I actually have the guts to go through with the full Ubers. I don't think I'm prepared enough and I don't think I fully understand what goes on with it.

Any help pointing me in the right direction is greatly appreciated!

make a game with a name and password. that way if u die u leave and rejoin and get ur body without losing ur portal, or if u get disconnected.

if u need help i can come in a finish em off for u. so add me, do it while i'm online and msg me if u need help.

watch a youtube video on it. too much to type out.

Morgormir wrote: 4 months ago

I'm biased, but I would only do ubers with a pally.

ES warlock could probably do it too, but it's untested (but likely very good). I don't know if it has enough survivability for me personally.

If you need some help make game. I'll give you a hand and walk you through it (if NL softcore.

That’s very kind of you!

I’m currently running an ES warlock with only about 21k damage (30 when minion and merc kicks in). I’ve heard that using Life Tap helps with warlock builds. I can probably swap to marrowalk for that.

TimeSlayer wrote: 4 months ago

Phreekz wrote: 4 months ago

Finally! After a very long time farming The Countess I have managed to get a 3x3 set. Phew!

Now... I don't think I actually have the guts to go through with the full Ubers. I don't think I'm prepared enough and I don't think I fully understand what goes on with it.

Any help pointing me in the right direction is greatly appreciated!

make a game with a name and password. that way if u die u leave and rejoin and get ur body without losing ur portal, or if u get disconnected.

if u need help i can come in a finish em off for u. so add me, do it while i'm online and msg me if u need help.

watch a youtube video on it. too much to type out.

Great advice! What region are you on?

Phreekz wrote: 4 months ago

TimeSlayer wrote: 4 months ago

Phreekz wrote: 4 months ago

Finally! After a very long time farming The Countess I have managed to get a 3x3 set. Phew!

Now... I don't think I actually have the guts to go through with the full Ubers. I don't think I'm prepared enough and I don't think I fully understand what goes on with it.

Any help pointing me in the right direction is greatly appreciated!

make a game with a name and password. that way if u die u leave and rejoin and get ur body without losing ur portal, or if u get disconnected.

if u need help i can come in a finish em off for u. so add me, do it while i'm online and msg me if u need help.

watch a youtube video on it. too much to type out.

Great advice! What region are you on?

i'm in US but its not a big deal to switch around

Phreekz wrote: 4 months ago

[..] I don't think I'm prepared enough and I don't think I fully understand what goes on with it. [..]

Only one way to find out.
Though since you have doubts before going in, you can just make sure that you have someone standing by who can bail you out if need be so the keys don't go to waste.
Depending on timing, region, game mode and such, I can make myself available to be your safety net.

Generally speaking, as basically everything, it boils down to "kill stuff to collect loot".

Though since you asked for pointers, at least some general pieces:
- You'll need 3 of each of the 3 keys (which it seems you already know)
- Each set 3 different keys opens one "mini uber" portal when used in the cube in Harrogath
- Make sure you go through all 3 of those in the same game as that is the only way to guarantee you get all 3 different ones
- Each such portal holds a "mini uber" at the end (or often near the entrance in the case of sands/ Duriel), each of which drops an organ upon Death
- Those 3 different organs combined (again, cube in Harrogath) open the Portal to Uber Tristram
- Once there, you'll find the 3 ubers (meph, dia, Baal) to take on
- After the 3rd one of those dies, he'll drop your torch and a Standard of Heroes that totally has a purpose *cough*
- Use a passworded game so noone comes in to steal your ubers
- If you have randos from trades on your friends list, switch to offline mode/disable friend join so they don't either
- Make sure you know the game's name and pass so you can rejoin to get your body back if needed and/or so you can properly ask for assistance if needed
- As noted above already, when going in with doubts, it'd probably be a good idea to line up assistance beforehand, just in case it becomes needed
- The most critical pieces for an easier time are generally overcapped resistances against uber meph (his Conviction drops you by 125) as well as "self-sustainability" ( Life Tap, basically) though some builds can plow through without that

Schnorki wrote: 4 months ago

Phreekz wrote: 4 months ago

[..] I don't think I'm prepared enough and I don't think I fully understand what goes on with it. [..]

Only one way to find out.
Though since you have doubts before going in, you can just make sure that you have someone standing by who can bail you out if need be so the keys don't go to waste.
Depending on timing, region, game mode and such, I can make myself available to be your safety net.

Generally speaking, as basically everything, it boils down to "kill stuff to collect loot".

Though since you asked for points, at least some general pieces:
- You'll need 3 of each of the 3 keys (which it seems you already know)
- Each set 3 different keys opens one "mini uber" portal when used in the cube in Harrogath
- Make sure you go through all 3 of those in the same game as that is the only way to guarantee you get all 3 different ones
- Each such portal holds a "mini uber" at the end (or often near the entrance in the case of sands/ Duriel), each of which drops an organ upon Death
- Those 3 different organs combined (again, cube in Harrogath) open the Portal to Uber Tristram
- Once there, you'll find the 3 ubers (meph, dia, Baal) to take on
- After the 3rd one of those dies, he'll drop your torch and a Standard of Heroes that totally has a purpose *cough*
- Use a passworded game so noone comes in to steal your ubers
- If you have randos from trades on your friends list, switch to offline mode/disable friend join so they don't either
- Make sure you know the game's name and pass so you can rejoin to get your body back if needed and/or so you can properly ask for assistance if needed
- As noted above already, when going in with doubts, it'd probably be a good idea to line up assistance beforehand, just in case it becomes needed
- The most critical pieces for an easier time are generally overcapped resistances against uber meph (his Conviction drops you by 125) as well as "self-sustainability" ( Life Tap, basically) though some builds can plow through without that

Fantastic advice! Hmmm, the resistances bit scares me. I’m not really fully spec’d so I might be better holding off. Not sure now!

Phreekz wrote: 4 months ago

Schnorki wrote: 4 months ago

Phreekz wrote: 4 months ago

[..] I don't think I'm prepared enough and I don't think I fully understand what goes on with it. [..]

Only one way to find out.
Though since you have doubts before going in, you can just make sure that you have someone standing by who can bail you out if need be so the keys don't go to waste.
Depending on timing, region, game mode and such, I can make myself available to be your safety net.

Generally speaking, as basically everything, it boils down to "kill stuff to collect loot".

Though since you asked for points, at least some general pieces:
- You'll need 3 of each of the 3 keys (which it seems you already know)
- Each set 3 different keys opens one "mini uber" portal when used in the cube in Harrogath
- Make sure you go through all 3 of those in the same game as that is the only way to guarantee you get all 3 different ones
- Each such portal holds a "mini uber" at the end (or often near the entrance in the case of sands/ Duriel), each of which drops an organ upon Death
- Those 3 different organs combined (again, cube in Harrogath) open the Portal to Uber Tristram
- Once there, you'll find the 3 ubers (meph, dia, Baal) to take on
- After the 3rd one of those dies, he'll drop your torch and a Standard of Heroes that totally has a purpose *cough*
- Use a passworded game so noone comes in to steal your ubers
- If you have randos from trades on your friends list, switch to offline mode/disable friend join so they don't either
- Make sure you know the game's name and pass so you can rejoin to get your body back if needed and/or so you can properly ask for assistance if needed
- As noted above already, when going in with doubts, it'd probably be a good idea to line up assistance beforehand, just in case it becomes needed
- The most critical pieces for an easier time are generally overcapped resistances against uber meph (his Conviction drops you by 125) as well as "self-sustainability" ( Life Tap, basically) though some builds can plow through without that

Fantastic advice! Hmmm, the resistances bit scares me. I’m not really fully spec’d so I might be better holding off. Not sure now!

Well, you did say warlock so..that kinda falls into the "some builds can plow through without that" category.
Just have Heph tank everything and you light it up from behind.

Though meph does have a fair few adds he tends to spawn which can crowd and overwhelm you so..be ready to switch targets and fling some wider arcs around you

Phreekz wrote: 4 months ago

Finally! After a very long time farming The Countess I have managed to get a 3x3 set. Phew!

Now... I don't think I actually have the guts to go through with the full Ubers. I don't think I'm prepared enough and I don't think I fully understand what goes on with it.

Any help pointing me in the right direction is greatly appreciated!

I've done lots with Smiter/FoH smiter and Frenzy Barb. So if youre using one of those builds I can give lots of advice. Haven't done it with a Warlock yet so its hard to say how that would go - certain builds can seem overpowered and then just get mowed down by Ubers because of certain small crucial details. But some basic details I'll give here.

For Frenzy Barb & paladin (and indeed most other builds), 50% or more crushing blow is ideal (Gface and Gore Rider are perfect and usually all you need). Anything more than 50% isn't super necessary so don't stress about getting 100% CB, it is not going to make that much of a difference.

Need Open Wounds somewhere on your gear, (if you have Gore Rider you're good enough here) this is pretty much mandatory - Prevent Monster Heal does not work on Ubers and without any Open Wounds you won't be able to stop their health regen, which can make it damn near impossible to get the kill once their health bar gets low since CB is based off remaining life, not total. If you don't have Gore Rider then a Blood Crafted Belt is another budget solution for OW source.

Need total 300% cold and lightning res to neutralize Uber Meph's Conviction aura. Fire isnt as important and poison res isn't affected by Conviction. If you get 240% uncapped then Treachery Fade proc will get u to 300.

Need source of Life Tap. Budget is Life Tap Wand, otherwise Exile runeword for paladin or Last Wish Phase Blade also work well (the latter is prohibitively expensive). Dracul's is also helpful for Life Tap proc but given its low proc % it is still advisable to use Life Tap Wand for the initial cast in this case. Also provides more OW proc and is considered generally BiS for smiter paladin in this use case scenario. Frenzy Barb may be better off with Laying of Hands because generally they need more IAS than a Smiter and they also can utilize the 350% ED to demons which does not apply to Smite.

One important thing not often mentioned, if you're using a Smiter, do NOT use ANY gear that has CTC any projectile on striking against Uber Baal - for example Principle body armour or Laying of Hands with CTC Holy Bolt. His chilling armour reflect can very easily kill you because of this alone.

When fighting Izual and Baal, you can put on Snowclash or Raven Frost ring to deal with their retaliating Ice spikes, which could catch someone new off guard, and get them killed instantly.

Other than that, the fights are not hard. ES warlock has plenty of DPS as is.

ES Warlock can definitely do Ubers. Several people have successfully done it. Do what Bisu said, bring a Raven Frost or Snowclash for Uber Baal's Chilling Armor.

One last bit of advice:
When things are not going well, don't panic. Don't ever lead the mobs to surround the red portals. Don't turn the entrances into Death traps.

As long as you keep the portal entrances clear and safe, you can always regroup or get help easily.

Sounds like you have not done the mini-Ubers yet to get the organs.

So, advice there:
1. Open all three portals in the same game
2. Start with Forgotten Sands
3. Then Furnace
4. If you survived the first two okay then move on to Matron's Den.
For Matron's, have full Psn resistance and drink a bunch of antidote potions, their timers stack and give you extra Psn resistance

If you make it through that, then, as others have stated, your Must Haves for Ubers:
1. Open Wounds (Prevent Monster Heal does not work on Ubers)
2. Life Tap
3. Max resistance with 125 additional specifically for Meph (after Meph you can re-gear back to simple max res)
4. Watch a video on how to approach them and draw out one Uber at a time

Congrats on the set, and killer timing on the thread - i just got my 3x3 and am in a similar position, though worked on resistances tonight and made a Treachery also (feels weird to stand in a fire to proc it).

My damage is at 46k before Might merc aura kicks in, plus I have big boy Heph with cursed and Fanaticism, so damage output feels okay. Only at 75% frame Cap whilst maxed with res, but I have a Raven Frost and a carrion wing to switch and a whole bunch of life and mana leech.

I found a rare Throwing Knife with 50 odd charges of lvl5 Life Tap on it, so i feel covered on that front, and naj's staff for better/no delay Teleport. Got some options for open wounds.

After reading all the advice above, i'm definitely gonna give the mini ubers a go tomorrow.

Good luck and report back on how you get on, Phreeks!

ThisGuyThatGuy wrote: 4 months ago

Congrats on the set, and killer timing on the thread - i just got my 3x3 and am in a similar position, though worked on resistances tonight and made a Treachery also (feels weird to stand in a fire to proc it).

My damage is at 46k before Might merc aura kicks in, plus I have big boy Heph with cursed and Fanaticism, so damage output feels okay. Only at 75% frame Cap whilst maxed with res, but I have a Raven Frost and a carrion wing to switch and a whole bunch of life and mana leech.

I found a rare Throwing Knife with 50 odd charges of lvl5 Life Tap on it, so i feel covered on that front, and naj's staff for better/no delay Teleport. Got some options for open wounds.

After reading all the advice above, i'm definitely gonna give the mini ubers a go tomorrow.

Good luck and report back on how you get on, Phreeks!

With your level of dps, you don't need to use Life Tap or open wounds etc at all. Just shoot ES at them. Any mini uber and individual final ubers should die within ~15 seconds, if not even quicker. That's just how OP the ES Warlock build is. =)

Morgormir wrote: 4 months ago

I'm biased, but I would only do ubers with a pally.

ES warlock could probably do it too, but it's untested (but likely very good). I don't know if it has enough survivability for me personally.

If you need some help make game. I'll give you a hand and walk you through it (if NL softcore.

Echoing Strike 100% can do them, just did first ubers with a buddy the other day.

Yes, full gear ES Lock on P1 can literaly line up Ubers to make simultaneous kill without sweating.

Hey, thanks very much for the replies!

I gave it a go last night but I think I underestimated just how tough it was. I'll definitely need to gear up a bit more for the next one.

I needed help from one of the fine people here (I won't mention names unless they are happy with it, I wouldn't want them getting inundated with messages! ).

Cheers!