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Just need one Defender's Fire, but 6 times, 6 Defender's Bile, what's the odd?
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Just need one Defender's Fire, but 6 times, 6 Defender's Bile, what's the odd?
1.5625% or 1/64
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....but why?
EDIT: I'm dumb and thought you meant 1/64 was the odds for the jewel to be fire. I'm tired xD
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Since there is always a jewel dropped after you defeat them, to get defender ones, you just need to kill Colossal Talic last. And after that, isn't a 50/50 chance to get a Defender's Fire jewel?
Am I wrong about this? Or there is fixed formula that set the chance of fire on drop to be 1/64?
Am I wrong about this? Or there is fixed formula that set the chance of fire on drop to be 1/64?
No youāre right, itās 50/50.Flyhorse wrote: 1 day agoSince there is always a jewel dropped after you defeat them, to get defender ones, you just need to kill Colossal Talic last. And after that, isn't a 50/50 chance to get a Defender's Fire jewel?
Am I wrong about this? Or there is fixed formula that set the chance of fire on drop to be 1/64?
But the odds of getting the āwrongā one six times in a row, which is what happened to the OP, is 1/64.
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Sorry a bit off topic, but quick question - What if you died half way? Can you re-enter the portal and fight them again (And do they become full health or you pick up from where you died)?
Plan to do mine later, just want to know our Death does not have any punishment in this, thanks.
Plan to do mine later, just want to know our Death does not have any punishment in this, thanks.
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Haggle/creative offer is fine - I Prefer keys at the moment.
[ BIN = Buy It Now, will respond asap ]
/// If we agree to trade, please be proactive and efficient ///
For softcore, if you die in the middle of fight, and you don't want to get killed again, then stay outside for a period of time, they will despawn, then you can safely get your body.jiuno wrote: 1 day agoSorry a bit off topic, but quick question - What if you died half way? Can you re-enter the portal and fight them again (And do they become full health or you pick up from where you died)?
Plan to do mine later, just want to know our Death does not have any punishment in this, thanks.
Before they despawn, I think you can still fight them if you get your body back, but I highly doubt if you can without preparation. No idea if they get back to full hp after you die.
Ok, got my one done, didn't die (but did drank a few full rej pots just to be safe) so couldn't verify the details above.
But how disappointing.... I was looking for fire and of course things did not turn out the way I want in RNG games.... (AND not to mention the sad roll QQ)
The only bright side is probably the drop updated my chronicle... XD
2nd attempt, slightly better....
Need to farm statues again ==;
But how disappointing.... I was looking for fire and of course things did not turn out the way I want in RNG games.... (AND not to mention the sad roll QQ)
The only bright side is probably the drop updated my chronicle... XD
2nd attempt, slightly better....
Need to farm statues again ==;
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Haggle/creative offer is fine - I Prefer keys at the moment.
[ BIN = Buy It Now, will respond asap ]
/// If we agree to trade, please be proactive and efficient ///
Haggle/creative offer is fine - I Prefer keys at the moment.
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OP
I know the math. But I heard another guys got 6 biles out of 6 runs. Just wanted to know if anyone got more fires than biles as the drop rate can be easily manipulated.
I did a short run of these yesterday, and out of Talic I got 1x Poison & 3x Fire. Total run gave me
Targeted Talic:
1x Poison - 9% PSN
3x Fire - 1x 9%. and 2x 7%
Targeted Madawc:
1x Light - 9%
Targeted Korlic:
1x Damage - 44% Enhanced Dmg
I think what the OP is getting at is the drops were bugged. 6 runs to get 6 Biles sounds a lot like D4's Tempering & their flawed RNG.
I did die a couple times when using my Warlock, but I was on the last one so I did 3x summons & merc to distract while I ran to get body, and then ran right out of portal to reset everything and go back in. If you leave it is 100% reset back to start. Madawc was the most difficult to target as he got killed multiple times as I had targeted Korlic first.
Now if they could fix the bug with the Protector Stone I would be happy, but for now I have two useless sitting in stash stones (and a COA ready to accept one of them)
Targeted Talic:
1x Poison - 9% PSN
3x Fire - 1x 9%. and 2x 7%
Targeted Madawc:
1x Light - 9%
Targeted Korlic:
1x Damage - 44% Enhanced Dmg
I think what the OP is getting at is the drops were bugged. 6 runs to get 6 Biles sounds a lot like D4's Tempering & their flawed RNG.
I did die a couple times when using my Warlock, but I was on the last one so I did 3x summons & merc to distract while I ran to get body, and then ran right out of portal to reset everything and go back in. If you leave it is 100% reset back to start. Madawc was the most difficult to target as he got killed multiple times as I had targeted Korlic first.
Now if they could fix the bug with the Protector Stone I would be happy, but for now I have two useless sitting in stash stones (and a COA ready to accept one of them)
6 biles in 6 runs at a working, non-bugged, fully intended 50/50 chance will happen to 1 out of every 64 people getting 6 jewels off Talic.sbn wrote: 23 hours ago[..]
I think what the OP is getting at is the drops were bugged. 6 runs to get 6 Biles sounds a lot like D4's Tempering & their flawed RNG.
[..]
There is nothing unusual or unexpected about that. The odds of being that 1 person in 64 are...well, 1 in 64, so really not that low. It'll inevitably happen to quite a few people, no bugs involved.
Everyone who thinks that 1/64 is so low that it "must be a bug" if it happens is thinking about chance & probabilities the wrong way.
Imagine 64 people are doing 6 Colossal Ancients runs each, all killing Talic last. On average, one unlucky bastard of these 64 people will get 6 Defender's Bile. One lucky bastard will get 6 Defender's Fire. But again, this is on average. Imagine these 64 people doing 6 runs each multiple times - the first time they do it maybe nobody gets 6 Defender's Bile, the next time maybe three people get 6 Defender's Bile. RNG is RNG. There's no Black magic that makes it average out over a low number of trials (and yes, 6 is a low number of trials). Yes, the chance is very low if you limit your scope to yourself only. It's not if you widen your perspective. You need to have far more data before you can draw any conclusions.
Imagine 64 people are doing 6 Colossal Ancients runs each, all killing Talic last. On average, one unlucky bastard of these 64 people will get 6 Defender's Bile. One lucky bastard will get 6 Defender's Fire. But again, this is on average. Imagine these 64 people doing 6 runs each multiple times - the first time they do it maybe nobody gets 6 Defender's Bile, the next time maybe three people get 6 Defender's Bile. RNG is RNG. There's no Black magic that makes it average out over a low number of trials (and yes, 6 is a low number of trials). Yes, the chance is very low if you limit your scope to yourself only. It's not if you widen your perspective. You need to have far more data before you can draw any conclusions.
I'm in CET (Central European Time)
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
The problem is you are looking for fire, if you start looking for bile, fire will drop. Unfortunately its too late to start doing this since you already have a bunch of biles.
On a related note, wtf is 3bb short for?
My guess is 3 barbarian (the 3 ancients)....? XD
Manners Maketh Man - Rude / Illiterate / Ridiculously low-balled people WILL BE IGNORED.
Haggle/creative offer is fine - I Prefer keys at the moment.
[ BIN = Buy It Now, will respond asap ]
/// If we agree to trade, please be proactive and efficient ///
Haggle/creative offer is fine - I Prefer keys at the moment.
[ BIN = Buy It Now, will respond asap ]
/// If we agree to trade, please be proactive and efficient ///
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