for the love of god list ur asking price, stop asking for offers

mikelessar wrote: 2 days ago

Schnorki wrote: 2 days ago

To be fair, if you do the research, put it up with an appropriate say 1

Ber price tag or whatever, you'll still get "o 1. pgem!" and "o

Ist!" so..not like that's really helping that reliably, if at all.

Traderie has an option that prevents this (only accepting asking price). But this also has a downside. If it says 1

Ber, only 1

Ber is accepted, not 1

Jah, a 3-20-20 or anything else. But it's worth it to avoid the low offers. We do not have this here, do we?

Don't think so.
But yeah, that is quite the limitation.
If I'm asking for a

Ber, I'll pretty much always also be fine with a

Jah or a couple

Sur or whatever.

Schnorki wrote: 2 days ago

To be fair, if you do the research, put it up with an appropriate say 1

Ber price tag or whatever, you'll still get "o 1. pgem!" and "o

Ist!" so..not like that's really helping that reliably, if at all.

that was what I wanted to say a few posts above
I do NOT bin my trades
1) lots will try to lower anyway
2) I'm indeed lazy but that doen't mean I dont know the prices
2a) if someone really needs the item he may make a higher offer (your goal as a seller is to get as much as you can)
2b) I just ignore if the offer is clearly under market (often to buy here and sell higher on traderie)
2c) if the offer is "correct" (or for any other reason like the buyer being a returning one) I can accept lower offers (we did trade @TimeSlayer even with no bin from my side)
3) I'm not in a hurry so if buyers "pass" my ads because of no bin ... well ... nobody cares neither he or I, even less other people on the site

I do both, just depends on the trade. I ran many many ubers to find a 20/20 lock torch and had over 10 18+18+ torches to trade. I didn't feel like searching the price for each but assumed they would all be around a certain range. I listed them all for "make offer".

I also had a few +1 eldritch grand charms with 30-40 life on them. Those I did check the price and listed them for what I thought was market value knowing I'd take something close to that amount.

If I have an item like a ring that seems GG and have no clue how to price it, I"ll ask for offers.

That was fun. Let's do it again some time!

Ngl rereading this thread makes me want to post a bunch of stuff with "LF offers" just for shits & giggles

BigD wrote: 13 hours ago

Ngl rereading this thread makes me want to post a bunch of stuff with "LF offers" just for shits & giggles

lmao

1 p gem

klmklm27 wrote: 2 days ago

Schnorki wrote: 2 days ago

To be fair, if you do the research, put it up with an appropriate say 1

Ber price tag or whatever, you'll still get "o 1. pgem!" and "o

Ist!" so..not like that's really helping that reliably, if at all.

that was what I wanted to say a few posts above
I do NOT bin my trades
1) lots will try to lower anyway
2) I'm indeed lazy but that doen't mean I dont know the prices
2a) if someone really needs the item he may make a higher offer (your goal as a seller is to get as much as you can)
2b) I just ignore if the offer is clearly under market (often to buy here and sell higher on traderie)
2c) if the offer is "correct" (or for any other reason like the buyer being a returning one) I can accept lower offers (we did trade @TimeSlayer even with no bin from my side)
3) I'm not in a hurry so if buyers "pass" my ads because of no bin ... well ... nobody cares neither he or I, even less other people on the site

like i said in my OP, highly valuable or unique/odd trades justify a "LF offers"

selling >1000

Ral is pretty unique. u got a wide range of offers too. i think i saw someone pay a

Ber for 100 which is wild to me. if u were just selling 20

Ral, LF offers would be kind of annoying.

most trades are for inexpensive items, at least for me, probably 90% of my trades are for less than an 1

Ist or 20 gems, or are just exchanges for different currency items keys/tokens/runes/gems.

i made this post after making a dozen or two 1 p gem offers on exceptional/elite 3os helms, an extremely basic item, because nearly everyone had "LF offers", almost no one was listing their price.

i had a lot of people respond with "1

Amethyst" or "3 gems is ok" and a few accepted my 1 p gem offer. so spamming "1 p gem" works! i got around 10 helms for less than half of what i was willing to pay.

^ i got a restock of 3 os hats of non-

Eth quality up for sale if ur still lookings.

TimeSlayer wrote: 10 hours ago

klmklm27 wrote: 2 days ago

2a) if someone really needs the item he may make a higher offer (your goal as a seller is to get as much as you can)

selling >1000

Ral is pretty unique. u got a wide range of offers too. i think i saw someone pay a

Ber for 100 which is wild to me.

yep thats my point 2a
someone might be willing to pay far more thant the market price for a HUGE amount of small material
just to save a lot of time on ONE trade rather than 10s of them
thus my "make offer"'

That is very true about large amount of material. And people willing to pay more to get it before it go up further may consider wise.

Some of small material was very cheap back few month ago and huge amount over there.

But if you manage to get them all , the price will also skyrocket...

There was some material over there that I manage to buy out all market production and as for today that material increase 300% value and still going up. I am selling back some to keep my original spend and left others in my inventory, consider as small investment.

--
mine is just small part, I follow my friend and buy some expensive thing, value go up a little but it is more than small thing I mention earlier

Ber and

Zod story, anyway it is another topic.

(my friend buy a huge amount of

Zod, back then and I follow to buy a little. turns out he can buy anything he want today, even through it is small gain but he buy a lot)

I'm a fence sitter on this one. Noobs need guidance thus a practical pricing on items would help them. However not putting a price on something in my own opinion is a little lazy & unhelpful with reference to my my first comment. I myself look past items with "LF runes" or "asking for offers" and just move on to an item that has an asking price. At least you know where you stand pricing wise.
With that said, I know someone with a GG item is going to want the best price possible thus ideally putting the item up for "auction" for want of a better term is the best practical option for them.

OK, ready to anger a lot of people, but here goes...

I have been active trader on another site for about 20 years, a site that often there is a BIN. It is is simple convenient, and worked well. 95% of trades completed within minutes of posting an ISO, or responding to a post. On Saturday I had 2x Warlock torches to sell, both transactions completed within 10 minutes of posting. I needed statues, my ISO took 2 minutes.

Lets truly be honest here, the "LF runes" and "Make offer" are really hoping for the offer of 20 Jahs for a 5

Jah item. You know it, I know it. This has been the way of D2 trading since the dawn of time (yes, going all the way to the dinosaur age). The way it worked when players would try in game trades making games like "

Eth Titans4trade". Items worth pgems to Puls could maybe, possibly get the trader a HIGH RUNE. The cost to this is that this pushes most traders away, both buyer and seller.

I tried yesterday to use this site, for which the search function is by far the best anywhere. Single reason why it only took me 5 minutes to know I will never use Traderie (OMFG that site sucks). Did complete a trade, because the seller had a BIN. But other sellers, it was just frustrating and a turn off. So I need to post an offer and let them sit on it and think, meanwhile I am going to keep looking. Meanwhile others are completing trades. So am I now obligated to stick with my offer?

Um no, so the seller can ponder my offer and basically get stuck having to relist for days. THAT is exactly what I saw at this site. Items I did search for had been being listed and re-listed, bump after bump. Buyers not buying, sellers not selling.

This is going to offend many here, but so what. If this site (which has amazing database, awesome forum, great community) is to ever gain steam with their trading, then changes need to be made. That starts with sellers having a clue what to ask for, just posting a *#&$ BIN. More you trade, the more that is offered and can move, the more people will come here to use this site. Simple as that.

Would it help if users were provided a suggested asking price (or low-high range more likely) that they just need to click once when creating the listing? If the problem is that users feel friction determining what to ask for (they don't want to go to the price check page, search for the item, scroll through the history to get a feel for what its worth etc.), then that is potentially something that the site can do something about to reduce that friction. The same could go for the buyer - they're shown prominently what the typical range of offers is. Obviously impossible to do for rare items, for which this site only relies on manual appraisals, but for anything else it could be done (with great difficulty, but possible). I'd have to find a way of finding correlations in the existing data, excluding outliers etc.

Just want to know what happens.

trade/verdungo-s-hearty-cord-t1745848.html

Only serious offers plz!

sbn wrote: 2 hours ago

OK, ready to anger a lot of people, but here goes...

I have been active trader on another site for about 20 years, a site that often there is a BIN. It is is simple convenient, and worked well. 95% of trades completed within minutes of posting an ISO, or responding to a post. On Saturday I had 2x Warlock torches to sell, both transactions completed within 10 minutes of posting. I needed statues, my ISO took 2 minutes.

Lets truly be honest here, the "LF runes" and "Make offer" are really hoping for the offer of 20 Jahs for a 5

Jah item. You know it, I know it. This has been the way of D2 trading since the dawn of time (yes, going all the way to the dinosaur age). The way it worked when players would try in game trades making games like "

Eth Titans4trade". Items worth pgems to Puls could maybe, possibly get the trader a HIGH RUNE. The cost to this is that this pushes most traders away, both buyer and seller.

I tried yesterday to use this site, for which the search function is by far the best anywhere. Single reason why it only took me 5 minutes to know I will never use Traderie (OMFG that site sucks). Did complete a trade, because the seller had a BIN. But other sellers, it was just frustrating and a turn off. So I need to post an offer and let them sit on it and think, meanwhile I am going to keep looking. Meanwhile others are completing trades. So am I now obligated to stick with my offer?

Um no, so the seller can ponder my offer and basically get stuck having to relist for days. THAT is exactly what I saw at this site. Items I did search for had been being listed and re-listed, bump after bump. Buyers not buying, sellers not selling.

This is going to offend many here, but so what. If this site (which has amazing database, awesome forum, great community) is to ever gain steam with their trading, then changes need to be made. That starts with sellers having a clue what to ask for, just posting a *#&$ BIN. More you trade, the more that is offered and can move, the more people will come here to use this site. Simple as that.

AMEN!! preach it!

on a side note: i agree, traderie is horrible. the interface is so clunky. it does however have a lot of trade volume, probably cause its built around the asian market. it was sooooo much easier breaking down my

Jah into lesser runes. i bet if diablo2.io improved its SEO for asians we could take a lot of their traffic. i tried selling some keysets there and u can't even relist ur ad unless u pay for a membership, u have to manually remake ur listing. da fuq?! hot garbage.

vued wrote: 1 hour ago

Just want to know what happens.

trade/verdungo-s-hearty-cord-t1745848.html

Only serious offers plz!

lmao

Teebling wrote: 2 hours ago

Would it help if users were provided a suggested asking price (or low-high range more likely) that they just need to click once when creating the listing? If the problem is that users feel friction determining what to ask for (they don't want to go to the price check page, search for the item, scroll through the history to get a feel for what its worth etc.), then that is potentially something that the site can do something about to reduce that friction. The same could go for the buyer - they're shown prominently what the typical range of offers is. Obviously impossible to do for rare items, for which this site only relies on manual appraisals, but for anything else it could be done (with great difficulty, but possible). I'd have to find a way of finding correlations in the existing data, excluding outliers etc.

i feel like that could be tricky to implement. i got an idea: when someone goes to sell an item, after they type/select the item name u could populate a box below with the recent sales or market search info. so as u add the specifics for your item (number of sockets, ethereal, ladder, sc/hc, etc) it would auto update the market search box. it would save a lot of clicks. also u could add a box when looking at an item listing that showed the price history of the item but with the fields already selected that match the item being sold. did i explain that clearly?

I have been on this site for a few years now and dont post much but yes I agree with sbn 100% this "LF runes" and "Make offer" is seen to much and I feel seems be the norm. Also when you do make an offer they dont respond back (How rude) because what I assume is its not what they want but how are we (the buyer) suppose to know what they want if there is no Buy It Now to go off of? Teebling I agree with most of what you say but I feel the responsibility of looking up the going price should mainly fall on the Seller so they can do a BIN to give us a base to work off of. Like sbn said "Lets truly be honest here, the "LF runes" and "Make offer" are really hoping for the offer of 20 Jahs for a 5

Jah item. You know it, I know it. This has been the way of D2 trading since the dawn of time" and I agree along with laziness.