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Do you think its better to have the
Lower Resist
aura on Hephasto with Cursed OR have fanatism aura without Cursed?

Which do YOU think is better?

I havent had any luck finding cursed hephasto and now finally found one with the wrong aura. Should I keep looking for fanatism without cursed? I will not find one with both. This has been proven.

Currently my hephasto got Fire aura + Resist lowering aura (thanks to high enough lvl binding skill) so that combo does work together nicely. And it can remove Physical immunities.
Hephasto without curse cant take away physical immunities and the sigil alone wont do it always either.

Just trying to weight some options here, not sure if its worth to waste time trying to find cursed + fana as it seems to be so darn rare. Got it once or twice before and never seen it again since.
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Do you think its better to have the
Lower Resist
aura on Hephasto with Cursed OR have fanatism aura without Cursed?

Which do YOU think is better?

I havent had any luck finding cursed hephasto and now finally found one with the wrong aura. Should I keep looking for fanatism without cursed? I will not find one with both. This has been proven.

Currently my hephasto got Fire aura + Resist lowering aura (thanks to high enough lvl binding skill) so that combo does work together nicely. And it can remove Physical immunities.
Hephasto without curse cant take away physical immunities and the sigil alone wont do it always either.

Just trying to weight some options here, not sure if its worth to waste time trying to find cursed + fana as it seems to be so darn rare. Got it once or twice before and never seen it again since.
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I hate not being able to hit enemies so I go with cursed. The frost or lightning aura are cool too when your hephasot has cursed as it applies curse to every enemy that get hit by the aura instead of relying on hephasto managing to hit, which can take a while on bosses.
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holeow wrote: 2 hours ago
I hate not being able to hit enemies so I go with cursed. The frost or lightning aura are cool too when your hephasot has cursed as it applies curse to every enemy that get hit by the aura instead of relying on hephasto managing to hit, which can take a while on bosses.
Does the fire aura cause the same? I think it does, wouldnt make sense not to. Enemies (trash enemies) just tend to die in first hit or two hits most with the lowered resist aura on top of it all. But ive been playing with this one now and it does seem to be way more powerful addition to the "team" to have the Cursed instead of fanatism. Fanatism sure made my attack speed slightly faster, but immunes were always an issue. Suppose fanatism with curse would be the best to get but that is so rarely seen.
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I guess the fire aura does it too, never got it though so I can't tell for sure
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holeow wrote: 2 hours ago
I guess the fire aura does it too, never got it though so I can't tell for sure
I got the fire aura for it because my binding demon skill adds an extra aura. Its double aura always for me :D
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ShadowHeart 5826Moderator

RotW Paladin Europe PC Playstation
Do you have a screenshot of the demon actually having 2 auras?

I was under the impression that if a mob already has an aura it keeps that aura only, level 20
Bind Demon
only adds a random aura to a bound demon if it does not already have an aura. I.e., shouldn't be able to get double aura. So a screenshot that proves it would be of interest.

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ShadowHeart wrote: 2 hours ago
Do you have a screenshot of the demon actually having 2 auras?

I was under the impression that if a mob already has an aura it keeps that aura only, and that level 20
Bind Demon
only adds a random aura to a bound demon if it does not already have an aura. I.e., shouldn't be able to get double aura. So a screenshot that proves it would be of interest.
Well Ive seen Might and Cure aura from merc + The lowering resist aura and Fire aura on meph. I dont know 100% if the elemental aura actually does anything but enemies do die around without getting hit so I assume it works?

EDIT:
Let me quickly start my game again.
It does show the other auras but the fire aura indeed isnt visible. But it does seem to be active as enemies do die around without hitting them.
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ShadowHeart 5826Moderator

RotW Paladin Europe PC Playstation
All auras should be visible at the feet of the aura supplier (and party auras at your own feet,
Conviction
at the enemy mobs' feet).

That's why I was thinking a screenshot would be nice :)

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I dont know why but it does show all the other auras but the fire aura. But I just assume the fire aura is working as the enemies are taking dmg around without any hits to them.

I wonder if its buggy and sometimes works / sometimes wont work?
I could be wrong about this, but if so; what is causing the dmg to surrounding enemies who are not being hit by anything?

Knowing AI is garbage but here is google AI quick search:
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ShadowHeart 5826Moderator

RotW Paladin Europe PC Playstation
Semirotta wrote: 1 hour ago
But I just assume the fire aura is working as the enemies are taking dmg around without any hits to them.
Yeah, that does sound like it's hidden but still working 🤔

Would be interesting if someone else has time to test as well and try to confirm it, the more that can confirm the behavior the better.

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My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
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ShadowHeart wrote: 1 hour ago
Semirotta wrote: 1 hour ago
But I just assume the fire aura is working as the enemies are taking dmg around without any hits to them.
Yeah, that does sound like it's hidden but still working 🤔

Would be interesting if someone else has time to test as well and try to confirm it, the more that can confirm the behavior the better.
Now that this came up, im going to try to remember and pay attention to this. I keep dying to souls when I go to
Baal
so im constantly getting new hephasto when it happens. Just today teleported with the
Dagger
warping right in the middle of two elite pack of souls. It was instant Death as it landed :'D
After I got them killed, the game was messing with me and dropped the thundergods
Belt
with the darn lightning absorb. Could have used it earlier for sure.
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Schnorki 4654Moderator

RotW PC
Semirotta wrote: 1 hour ago
I dont know why but it does show all the other auras but the fire aura. But I just assume the fire aura is working as the enemies are taking dmg around without any hits to them.

I wonder if its buggy and sometimes works / sometimes wont work?
I could be wrong about this, but if so; what is causing the dmg to surrounding enemies who are not being hit by anything?

Knowing AI is garbage but here is google AI quick search:
image.png
As usual, AI is both, dated and just plain wrong in the same response. People really need to stop listening to that stuff.

No, he doesn't always spawn with
Conviction
. That's just dated information. He draws from the random aura pool. Hence the countless fana-cursed and freeze-cursed bound Hephs running around.

And no, he can't have 2 auras. If you have 20+ bind and use it on Heph, the 20+ bind aura bonus is simply ignored because he already has an aura. My bind is always well above 20 and after I don't even know how many hundreds of binds of aura enchanted mobs (and esp. Heph) by now, not a single time has any mob ever gotten a 2nd aura added. The odds of that happening randomly, "because the 2nd aura happens to always be the same one again", are something like 1 in 3,234,476,509,624,760,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. So...ya know...no.

The reason you see other auras on him is because he's benefiting from other friendly auras you, your merc or your summons bring, be that Cure, fire res or whatever. Go back to town so he doesn't gain other friendly auras anymore and you'll see him drop to 1 aura and 1 aura only.
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Schnorki wrote: 30 minutes ago
Semirotta wrote: 1 hour ago
I dont know why but it does show all the other auras but the fire aura. But I just assume the fire aura is working as the enemies are taking dmg around without any hits to them.

I wonder if its buggy and sometimes works / sometimes wont work?
I could be wrong about this, but if so; what is causing the dmg to surrounding enemies who are not being hit by anything?

Knowing AI is garbage but here is google AI quick search:
image.png
As usual, AI is both, dated and just plain wrong in the same response. People really need to stop listening to that stuff.

No, he doesn't always spawn with
Conviction
. That's just dated information. He draws from the random aura pool. Hence the countless fana-cursed and freeze-cursed Hephs running around.

And no, he can't have 2 auras. If you have 20+ bind and use it on Heph, the 20+ bind aura bonus is simply ignored because he already has an aura. My bind is always well above 20 and after I don't even know how many hundreds of binds of aura enchanted mobs (and esp. Heph) by now, not a single time has any mob ever gotten a 2nd aura added. The odds of that happening randomly, "because the 2nd aura happens to always be the same one again", are something like 1 in 3,234,476,509,624,760,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. So...ya know...no.
Oh yeah definitely, noticed that it said the "always" spawn with
Conviction
which is complete bs. AI is so bad.

I dunno what causes the trash enemies to explode then if its not the 2nd aura.
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Semirotta wrote: 28 minutes ago
Schnorki wrote: 30 minutes ago
Semirotta wrote: 1 hour ago
I dont know why but it does show all the other auras but the fire aura. But I just assume the fire aura is working as the enemies are taking dmg around without any hits to them.

I wonder if its buggy and sometimes works / sometimes wont work?
I could be wrong about this, but if so; what is causing the dmg to surrounding enemies who are not being hit by anything?

Knowing AI is garbage but here is google AI quick search:
image.png
As usual, AI is both, dated and just plain wrong in the same response. People really need to stop listening to that stuff.

No, he doesn't always spawn with
Conviction
. That's just dated information. He draws from the random aura pool. Hence the countless fana-cursed and freeze-cursed Hephs running around.

And no, he can't have 2 auras. If you have 20+ bind and use it on Heph, the 20+ bind aura bonus is simply ignored because he already has an aura. My bind is always well above 20 and after I don't even know how many hundreds of binds of aura enchanted mobs (and esp. Heph) by now, not a single time has any mob ever gotten a 2nd aura added. The odds of that happening randomly, "because the 2nd aura happens to always be the same one again", are something like 1 in 3,234,476,509,624,760,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. So...ya know...no.
Oh yeah definitely, noticed that it said the "always" spawn with
Conviction
which is complete bs. AI is so bad.

I dunno what causes the trash enemies to explode then if its not the 2nd aura.
I can confirm the AI is wrong here ... even with the Skillvl that givs aura Heph keeps the aura he has when you bind him ...
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