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Thanks to Shadowheart and War the Wise for providing more in-depth infos. I edited them in the first post. Still some questions remain :)

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In my free time I've been no lifing TZs (2-3 acts per session, today I did whole game) since the update. I would estimate I killed 200 Heralds of varying tier and about 80 T5 heralds ("of
Terror
"). I got one
Latent Crack of the Heavens
.

The process has been fun and I really like finding these super deadly T5s that make me sweat for a change. But it's giga frustrating to kill 100 elites without ire. I hope something is adjusted in the spawn formula to smooth out the RNG and make them spawn a bit more consistently.
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LizardWizard_FL wrote: 1 week ago
In my free time I've been no lifing TZs (2-3 acts per session, today I did whole game) since the update. I would estimate I killed 200 Heralds of varying tier and about 80 T5 heralds ("of
Terror
"). I got one
Latent Crack of the Heavens
.
Nice! So they do exist, after all..! 😜

Will you cube it into a Renewed Charm? If so, share with us here the stats rolled!
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I cubed it :)

The ingredients (p
Topaz
,
Fal
, and southern WSS) are orders of magnitude easier to get than finding the latent sunder itself, so I hope Blizz can find some happy medium with all this mess. My suggestion would be to shift some of the weight to those crafting ingredients, make latent sunders a bit less rare and make renewed charms more expensive for people who want those extra stats.
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For ref - someone rolled this monstrosity and it sold for 250+
Jah
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LizardWizard_FL wrote: 1 week ago
I cubed it :)

The ingredients (p
Topaz
,
Fal
, and southern WSS) are orders of magnitude easier to get than finding the latent sunder itself, so I hope Blizz can find some happy medium with all this mess. My suggestion would be to shift some of the weight to those crafting ingredients, make latent sunders a bit less rare and make renewed charms more expensive for people who want those extra stats.
Thanks for sharing. Can you roll it multiple times? Have you tried?

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ShadowHeart 5754Moderator

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I think the recipes specifically take Latent Sunder Charms, and the result is a different item altogether, so I'm guessing that you can't - you'd need a new Latent Sunder Charm for each attempt. But I guess LizardWizard can verify that easily :)

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Yes, I tried rolling it a second time with p
Topaz
,
Fal
and south WSS and it didn't work.
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LizardWizard_FL wrote: 1 week ago
I cubed it :)
Sadly, you got not so good roll on lightning penalty, only 2 points away from the initial antiperfect Latent charm. You can benefit from the other stats but it leaves a bitter taste after cubing seeing how much hard to obtain it is.

On my offline single player, P8, now I leave on the Ground all sunders, many of them perfect (-70). I have a full mule of perfect and antiperfect ones.

But now, I'll take what I'll find, if I'll find. I started a new warlock character and gear it with best I can find on the way, I have nothing for him from my previous characters.

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New questions:

Has player rate an influence on % of message/
Herald
spawning?


If someone has tested this, please report

Can someone confirm, that on bnet, Sunders may drop from any tier of
Herald
? I read something about it but confirmation would be nice.

It would be also interesting to me, if the sunder drop takes one item slot, as
Herald
of
Terror
would have a higher chance to drop then

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Some updates here, bumping this

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I've been testing that on single player with modified version of game: token chance increased from 2% to 50%,
Conversion
chance from 1% to 100%, and no-drop chance for Sunder Charms TC set to 0%, so each time
Herald
can drop Sunder he will drop one.

Most important conclusion is that only Tier 4 and Tier 5 drop Sunder Charms. I know some people did dropped Sunders from Tier 1, but based on calculation rules in TC file and my tests I assume that it was a result of some bug.

Other thing I've noticed - it is possible to spawn multiple Heralds of same tier if you have enough tokens - I had up to 3. But with default chances it is extremely rare like 1:10k for 2, 1:1m for 3 (and all that assuming we have triggered stage 1 multiple times). If something like that occur and we will kill them we can skip tiers and for example go from T1 to T4 directly.
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Grushkovy wrote: 1 day ago
I've been testing that on single player with modified version of game: token chance increased from 2% to 50%,
Conversion
chance from 1% to 100%, and no-drop chance for Sunder Charms TC set to 0%, so each time
Herald
can drop Sunder he will drop one.

Most important conclusion is that only Tier 4 and Tier 5 drop Sunder Charms. I know some people did dropped Sunders from Tier 1, but based on calculation rules in TC file and my tests I assume that it was a result of some bug.
When playing offline only T4 and T5
Herald
can drop sunder. Online any tier
Herald
can drop sunder.

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it's "prove me wrong" you dingus.
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ShadowHeart wrote: 1 week ago
Pavke* & Warren* have made some extensive testing and come up with the following:
  • 2% chance to get a Token when killing an elite (champ/unique/superunique/boss (not unique minion) )
Has the "not unique minion" been verified by Pavke or Warren? I had
Colenzo the Annihilator
"Draw the Ire of a
Herald
" on this last WSK TZ.

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Blood Ring
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ShadowHeart 5754Moderator

RotW Paladin Europe PC Playstation
Knappogue wrote: 1 hour ago
Has the "not unique minion" been verified by Pavke or Warren? I had
Colenzo the Annihilator
"Draw the Ire of a
Herald
" on this last WSK TZ.
I think the point was that it can be any elite but not a minion of an elite. I.e., it can be a unique mob, super unique mob, a champion or a boss. But it cannot be a unique/superunique's minion (you know, the ones with the "Minion" text below the mob name). I.e., killing
Colenzo the Annihilator
should definitely be able to draw ire, but not killing his
Fallen
minions.

I'm in CET (Central European Time)
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
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ShadowHeart wrote: 1 hour ago
Knappogue wrote: 1 hour ago
Has the "not unique minion" been verified by Pavke or Warren? I had
Colenzo the Annihilator
"Draw the Ire of a
Herald
" on this last WSK TZ.
I think the point was that it can be any elite but not a minion of an elite. I.e., it can be a unique mob, super unique mob, a champion or a boss. But it cannot be a unique/superunique's minion (you know, the ones with the "Minion" text below the mob name). I.e., killing
Colenzo the Annihilator
should definitely be able to draw ire, but not killing his
Fallen
minions.
Ahh, makes sense. Thank you.

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All my
Blood Ring
and
Caster Amulet
priced at
Ist
or below are now FREE.
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OP
Thanks for the discussion, clarified it in the main post by using our beloved
Colenzo the Annihilator
as an example :)

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Blubbalutsch wrote: 1 week ago
All monsters are able to drop shards. These may be used for crafting the new sunder charms or to terrorize a whole act corresponding to the shard you use.
Only Champions, Uniques, Super Uniques, and Heralds can drop worldstone shards.

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Blood Ring
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Ist
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