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Will Mosaic stay in Non ladder? I need to decide if I should spend everything I have on a
Gul
right now or wait a bit
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Wait, wasn't Mosaic removed with the new patch?
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ShadowHeart 5692Moderator

RotW Paladin Europe PC Playstation
Flatau wrote: 23 hours ago
Wait, wasn't Mosaic removed with the new patch?
No. It's been disabled for ladder, not removed, and also made available on non-ladder. It will remain disabled on ladder until they are done coming up with the new version.

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leox 313

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
ipatrishkov wrote: 23 hours ago
Will Mosaic stay in Non ladder? I need to decide if I should spend everything I have on a
Gul
right now or wait a bit
You can review previous post, it was done and confirmed.

And I recommend that you only spend tiny in 1 pair of claw. (x2)

Because this is last meal before Death of Mosaic . They will soon redesign it to avoid it take warlock's show.

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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leox wrote: 22 hours ago
ipatrishkov wrote: 23 hours ago
Will Mosaic stay in Non ladder? I need to decide if I should spend everything I have on a
Gul
right now or wait a bit
You can review previous post, it was done and confirmed.

And I recommend that you only spend tiny in 1 pair of claw. (x2)

Because this is last meal before Death of Mosaic . They will soon redesign it to avoid it take warlock's show.
Do we have any information on what will happen with Mosaic done before the update? Are they gonna stay as is and become more rare than ever and a limited supply, or are they gonna be fixed too?
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Itachiaurion wrote: 3 hours ago
Do we have any information on what will happen with Mosaic done before the update? Are they gonna stay as is and become more rare than ever and a limited supply, or are they gonna be fixed too?
Blizzard is working on an updated version. We don't know what it will look like. I suspect we'll get news closer to the next ladder reset, but we'll see.

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leox 313

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
Itachiaurion wrote: 3 hours ago
leox wrote: 22 hours ago
ipatrishkov wrote: 23 hours ago
Will Mosaic stay in Non ladder? I need to decide if I should spend everything I have on a
Gul
right now or wait a bit
You can review previous post, it was done and confirmed.

And I recommend that you only spend tiny in 1 pair of claw. (x2)

Because this is last meal before Death of Mosaic . They will soon redesign it to avoid it take warlock's show.
Do we have any information on what will happen with Mosaic done before the update? Are they gonna stay as is and become more rare than ever and a limited supply, or are they gonna be fixed too?
Simply answer is no, we dont know.

Below is most possible result:
They will change exist Mosaic to less
Charge
needed. Unlike current no lose exist
Charge
.
The most possible outcome for existing Mosaic is that it will slightly stronger than trap style. And weaker than warlock.
I think blizzard wants smallest development cost and make warlock as strongest class. Hustle is their first attempt to see if change cause any unexpected thing. That's why I recommend people to play when it still strong and dont spend too much on Mosaic , because its day has come.

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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Schnorki 4279Moderator

RotW PC
ShadowHeart wrote: 2 hours ago
Itachiaurion wrote: 3 hours ago
Do we have any information on what will happen with Mosaic done before the update? Are they gonna stay as is and become more rare than ever and a limited supply, or are they gonna be fixed too?
Blizzard is working on an updated version. We don't know what it will look like. I suspect we'll get news closer to the next ladder reset, but we'll see.
Is there a single official source for that whole "it'll change" thing?

After all, the one and only thing making Mosaic as OP as it is is the
Charge
retention.
Without that and even without 100% of that, it is effectively pointless (see the PTR where it was 50% with 2 of them) and would take MA sins right back into obscurity.
In terms of the item itself, there really is no proper middle Ground for "makes them good but not OP", the entire approach ended up very "OP or pointless, no in between".

What would still make far more sense would be to change MA sins themselves by (random example) introducing a limit for total
Charge
count or the like. That'd hardly affect non-Mosaic sins (if at all) as they're limited by design anyways and it'd tone down Mosaic sins noticeably without rendering them pointless. And it wouldn't take a single change to the item.

Either way, per blizz themselves, Mosaic hasn't been disabled "cuz OP and needs reworking" but because it leads to a graphics bug/crash for a fair few folk and it'll remain disabled on ladder until they can fix that.

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ShadowHeart 5692Moderator

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Schnorki wrote: 1 hour ago
Is there a single official source for that whole "it'll change" thing?
Here's a source about the reason for it being disabled:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t ... led/172344

That post doesn't outright say that it's going to be reworked, that verbiage comes from MrLlamaSc's article on Icy Veins from last week.

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Schnorki 4279Moderator

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ShadowHeart wrote: 1 hour ago
Schnorki wrote: 1 hour ago
Is there a single official source for that whole "it'll change" thing?
Here's a source about the reason for it being disabled:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t ... led/172344

That post doesn't outright say that it's going to be reworked, that verbiage comes from MrLlamaSc's article on Icy Veins from last week.
Aye but that's again just the graphics bug thing.
I have yet to see anything official with regards to it getting rebalanced in any way.

And even llama's comments, if one were to take his word, can very much be read as a visual redesign.

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ShadowHeart 5692Moderator

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Schnorki wrote: 1 hour ago
Aye but that's again just the graphics bug thing.
I have yet to see anything official with regards to it getting rebalanced in any way.

And even llama's comments, if one were to take his word, can very much be read as a visual redesign.
Fair :)

The only other official comment is back from the Q&A Blizzard held before the release in China - Matthew Cederquist answered one question by very directly stating that it will be reworked (that was over half a year ago);
Blizzard wrote:
As for Mosaic, it’s a Runeword designed specifically for the Assassin, and after its introduction, the top three pages of the ladder are dominated by Assassins, so we’re planning to rebalance Mosaic. The Druid is one of my favorite classes—my top favorite is the Necromancer, followed by the non-Mosaic Assassin. I believe
Armageddon
is already one of the game’s strongest skills, so we won’t be making any changes to it. That said, for balance, we continuously listen to player feedback, make adjustments, and then gather more feedback in a cyclical process. We don’t have new information to share right now, except that we’re working on rebalancing Mosaic, but we’ll keep monitoring balance closely.

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leox 313

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
ShadowHeart wrote: 1 hour ago

Fair :)

The only other official comment is back from the Q&A Blizzard held before the release in China - Matthew Cederquist answered one question by very directly stating that it will be reworked (that was over half a year ago);
Blizzard wrote:
As for Mosaic, it’s a Runeword designed specifically for the Assassin, and after its introduction, the top three pages of the ladder are dominated by Assassins, so we’re planning to rebalance Mosaic. The Druid is one of my favorite classes—my top favorite is the Necromancer, followed by the non-Mosaic Assassin. I believe
Armageddon
is already one of the game’s strongest skills, so we won’t be making any changes to it. That said, for balance, we continuously listen to player feedback, make adjustments, and then gather more feedback in a cyclical process. We don’t have new information to share right now, except that we’re working on rebalancing Mosaic, but we’ll keep monitoring balance closely.
That thing mention above is ptr 50% or something similar. And it failed.
From current clue, they want nerf it to 'reasonable' but can use . And we can only guess from its fail result. Knowing it will be stronger than PTR and much weaker than warlock.
Due to design of skills, 3
Charge
to max is current design and unless, they make it stack up more than 3 . Like D3 speed gems. Still....
Either way of rework, current Mosaic is strongest moment, then it should be similar to trap strong level. Maybe stronger than trap like 50%.
Current Mosaic is way way stronger than trap.

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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All this uncertainty is why I decided to unload my Mosaic stash over the last two months. I definitely didn’t anticipate anything like ROTW, but I couldn’t shake this nagging feeling that they might throw us some new RWs and/or nerf it.

Guess we’ll see what happens over the next few months…
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Would it be viewed as a lazy change if they kept it as is and just upped the rune requirements for Mosaic? It always felt like a Runeword that would require higher than a
Gul
.

Burning out in the Burning Hells since 2004.
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Danzalight wrote: 1 hour ago
Would it be viewed as a lazy change if they kept it as is and just upped the rune requirements for Mosaic? It always felt like a Runeword that would require higher than a
Gul
.
Yes, that would be a lazy change, since the runeword would not be nerfed. It would take longer to make the runeword, so the ladder racers would have a sloght disadvantage, but getting the runes for a 3-socket runeword is not too hard, especially when you have a group to back you up.
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