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are these like barb helms, ie mostly useless?

max 2 sockets for all so:
Rhyme Splendor and Vigilance the only options

any good automods?
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Can be used to make Runewords:

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are these like barb helms, ie mostly useless?

max 2 sockets for all so:
Rhyme Splendor and Vigilance the only options

any good automods?

HC RotW
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Better use
Moser's Blessed Circle
than Vigilance and save a
Gul
.

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Tavron 174

RotW Paladin Europe PC Switch
I guess it depends on the base. If you find a godly one with the right +skills it might be worth it to make one of those runewords.

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mhlg 2590

Americas PC
A Rhyme's not a bad option if you find a decent enough base, but in the meantime, it's a cheap low level requirement option so I went with it.
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For Magic Warlock
Ars Dul'Mephistos
and for Fire Warlock
Ars Al'Diabolos
will be very hard to beat as BiS.

And the 2 socket runewords are weak. So maybe a great rare or magic book will have some value, but 99,9% of all book bases will not be competitive endgame, I guess. (But I might be wrong, time will tell). For leveling in Nightmare and early Hell however, a decent Rhyme with some +skills is very nice.
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mikelessar wrote: 17 hours ago
For Magic Warlock
Ars Dul'Mephistos
and for Fire Warlock
Ars Al'Diabolos
will be very hard to beat as BiS.

And the 2 socket runewords are weak. So maybe a great rare or magic book will have some value, but 99,9% of all book bases will not be competitive endgame, I guess. (But I might be wrong, time will tell). For leveling in Nightmare and early Hell however, a decent Rhyme with some +skills is very nice.
I feel like I'd still rather use Phoenix with a fire Warlock. Minus enemy fire res and the QoL of
Redemption
.

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justinman114 wrote: 16 hours ago
mikelessar wrote: 17 hours ago
For Magic Warlock
Ars Dul'Mephistos
and for Fire Warlock
Ars Al'Diabolos
will be very hard to beat as BiS.

And the 2 socket runewords are weak. So maybe a great rare or magic book will have some value, but 99,9% of all book bases will not be competitive endgame, I guess. (But I might be wrong, time will tell). For leveling in Nightmare and early Hell however, a decent Rhyme with some +skills is very nice.
I feel like I'd still rather use Phoenix with a fire Warlock. Minus enemy fire res and the QoL of
Redemption
.
Redemption
is nice, yes, but
Apocalypse
alone gives me -45% enemy fire res and i get -15% if I
Consume
a
Tainted
. Plus Flickering Flame and Infinity. The +5 to +7 to
Apocalypse
are just massive, plus up to 25% fire damage. I have a bad one, which already is super strong, a good
Ars Al'Diabolos
will improve your damage by about 50%. And on top of that you get mana for every monster killed (and you usually kill at least 10 monsters with one blast, often many more). That helps with the mana issues. On top of that: 25 FCR. Phoenix comes nowhere close. The Warlock's skills are massively OP, so is his top gear.
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mikelessar wrote: 16 hours ago
justinman114 wrote: 16 hours ago
mikelessar wrote: 17 hours ago
For Magic Warlock
Ars Dul'Mephistos
and for Fire Warlock
Ars Al'Diabolos
will be very hard to beat as BiS.

And the 2 socket runewords are weak. So maybe a great rare or magic book will have some value, but 99,9% of all book bases will not be competitive endgame, I guess. (But I might be wrong, time will tell). For leveling in Nightmare and early Hell however, a decent Rhyme with some +skills is very nice.
I feel like I'd still rather use Phoenix with a fire Warlock. Minus enemy fire res and the QoL of
Redemption
.
Redemption
is nice, yes, but
Apocalypse
alone gives me -45% enemy fire res and i get -15% if I
Consume
a
Tainted
. Plus Flickering Flame and Infinity. The +5 to +7 to
Apocalypse
are just massive, plus up to 25% fire damage. I have a bad one, which already is super strong, a good
Ars Al'Diabolos
will improve your damage by about 50%. And on top of that you get mana for every monster killed (and you usually kill at least 10 monsters with one blast, often many more). That helps with the mana issues. On top of that: 25 FCR. Phoenix comes nowhere close. The Warlock's skills are massively OP, so is his top gear.
Good points. It's hard to tell what will be the absolute best, but there is flexibility here. You could arguably use Phoenix and Obsession (65 FCR), and instead of Infinity, just
Consume
a monster with
Conviction
. The 125 FCR BP should be attainable with gloves/
Belt
/your choice ring/amulet. What a time to be alive!

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All trades are negotiable within reason :)
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Schnorki 4250Moderator

RotW PC
If books could get 4 sockets, you'd be looking at some potential.

With 2 though, it'll be hard to justify them for any build.

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Tavron 174

RotW Paladin Europe PC Switch
justinman114 wrote: 15 hours ago

Good points. It's hard to tell what will be the absolute best, but there is flexibility here. You could arguably use Phoenix and Obsession (65 FCR), and instead of Infinity, just
Consume
a monster with
Conviction
. The 125 FCR BP should be attainable with gloves/
Belt
/your choice ring/amulet. What a time to be alive!
Wait, do you get the bound demons auras if you
Consume
them? That seems OP (but on point for the general state of the balance of warlock currently)

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Tavron wrote: 5 hours ago


Wait, do you get the bound demons auras if you
Consume
them? That seems OP (but on point for the general state of the balance of warlock currently)
Nope, check
Consume
's page. All enemy demons give a static bonus. Super unique bosses give a stronger one. Neither is tied to their affixes at the time of
Consume
activation.

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Schnorki 4250Moderator

RotW PC
Tavron wrote: 5 hours ago
justinman114 wrote: 15 hours ago

Good points. It's hard to tell what will be the absolute best, but there is flexibility here. You could arguably use Phoenix and Obsession (65 FCR), and instead of Infinity, just
Consume
a monster with
Conviction
. The 125 FCR BP should be attainable with gloves/
Belt
/your choice ring/amulet. What a time to be alive!
Wait, do you get the bound demons auras if you
Consume
them? That seems OP (but on point for the general state of the balance of warlock currently)
I think he meant to write bind, not
Consume
since binding does preserve the aura (or adds one if lvl 20+ bind, if the monster doesn't have its own yet).
Consume
CAN include an aura, depending on the mob but that's not "if mob has aura then same aura". If you
Consume
hephasto for example, you get
Holy Fire
, regardless of which aura he himself had.

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justinman114 wrote: 16 hours ago
I feel like I'd still rather use Phoenix with a fire Warlock. Minus enemy fire res and the QoL of
Redemption
.
Even on magic WL Phoenix is hard to beat imo, as
Redemption
aura enhances survivability and utility by a lot. Damage is allready enough if on /p1 or solo bnet. Havn't found the magic book yet, will give it a try when it happens, but so long i'm happy with Phoenix
Monarch

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