Search the database
Search forum topics
Search members
Search for trades
diablo2.io is supported by ads
diablo2.io is supported by ads
7 replies   319 views
2

Description

Diablo 2 can be very overwhelming for players. You look at your own chars and you found very few High Runes (
Ist
or higher) - or maybe none at all. But there are trades for 1
Jah
. 5
Jah
. 10
Jah
.
So you may ask: "How do I find these runes myself"

Short answer: "You don't"
Longer answer: Well, if you play quite a long time, kill a lot of monsters, sooner or later a high rune will drop. But you will never find 10 Jahr or whatever.

But the good thing is: You don't need to.

There are a lot of ways to get good gear for your character without relying on luck.
I am talking about good gear - not godly gear.

Here are some tipps that are (IMO) important for new players:

1) You do NOT want to look for very good rolls on items.
In Diablo2, a lot of items (or runewords) have a range of different attributes.
In general, if you are relatively new and not rich, and if you look at guides which items may be usefull for you, you do NOT want the good rolled items. Not to speak about perfect rolled ones.
-> These are WAY too expensive for you.
The price difference between a low roll and a high roll is easily 10 times the price. For perfect rolls often way higher.
But the power level of the item - the combat power of your character - barely increases.
One example: A 10/10 Torch for your char will be very cheap. Depending on your class less than an
Ist
, maybe 1
Ist
.
A 18/18 Torch for your char will cost
Jah
or more. A 20/20 will be 10+
Jah
. So the price difference between 10/10 and 18/18 is very high, between 10/10 and 20/20 insane.
But your power level? Well, you get +3 to all skills, no matter the torch. So a 10/10 and a 20/20 is NOT doulbe the combat power. It is waaaay less, because the biggest boost
Ist
the +3 to all skills.

The same is true for all other items. Since on every item only a few attributes are variables, a perfect roll is only a relatively small power boost compared to a low roll.

-> Buy items that have low rolls.

2) Not every recommend item in builds is the best choice for you.
In guides you will often see e.g. "Enigma" - yeah, great armor, great versatility.
But Diablo 2 offers a ton of great items that are very cheap to get. There are way too many items to make a full list, but here are some items that are easy to get and very powerful:
Treachery - an amazing armor for your merc and - depending on your char - you as well. Best in Slot? No. But very cheap and affordable. And if you are a char that hits with a weapon (no matter the class) it is a good budget choice
Spirit - an absolute powerhouse for every caster. Again, relatively cheap to make. It adds insane combat power for very little price
Insight - yet again, a very cheap rune word that is a great weapon for a level 2 merc. It solves all your mana issues. And a merc with Treachery and Insight is standing quite strong and does not die that easily. Don't forget to build new Insights when you level up. A high level merc can wield more powerful Insight weapons, doing more damage, leeching more (if you have the next item on the list)
Tal
Rashas's Horadric Crest - a horrible item for a caster, but an amazing item for every merc. Dirt cheap (drops all the time), and has All Resistance and 10% Lifeleech for your merc.
Leaf - again, a very cheap rune word that is good for several characters
TirTir - a helmet with 2 x
Tir
rune. No rune word, just gives you +4 mana after each kill. Very usefull in the early game.
Harlequin Crest
- a relatively cheap item (
Ist
at most, often even cheaper) that helps a lot. +2 to all skills, tons of life and mana, 50% magic find. A cheap, good solution for every char.

Like I said, there are a ton more examples.


With 1) and 2) combined you will be able to find gear for every slot that is relatively cheap or can easily be self found. Still, you'll need a few
Ist
runes for all the stuff.


3) How to get
Ist
runes in the first place?

You trade for them. But NOT by finding a super valuable item or High Rune like
Ber
or
Jah
. That may happen. It probably won't.
But it doesn't has to.
There are several possibilities to reliably get
Ist
runes.
Perfect Gems
- collect flawless gems and cube them up. 20
Perfect Gems
(PG) can always be traded for 1 x
Ist

Perfect Amethysts are even more valuable, 8 x PA = 1 x
Ist


Low Runes that have value:
Hel
- 8 x
Hel
= 1 x
Ist

Ral
- 20 x
Ral
= 1 x
Ist

Other runes can sometimes be traded in bulk as well.
Sol
,
Amn
, thul - sometimes you can sell these with 20 or 30 for 1 x
Ist

Don't waste time to cube up runes. Don't bother with
El
, Elds and whatever.
You maybe want to cube up the runes that result in
Hel
runes or in
Ral
runes, that can be usefull, because like I said, these 2 runes can be sold reliable and instantly.

-> These are two possibilities to get reliable and easy
Ist
runes.
These 2 runes drop often. Flaweless Gems drop often. Pick them up!
No need to farm difficult spots. Just play the game, kill stuff and these gems and runes will drop. No matter how unlucky you are^^

Other good ways to earn
Ist
runes:
- Collect Keys.
If you manage to farm all 3 keys, you can make a collection of 3 x 3 keys. (That opens Uber-
Tristram
) - these are very valuable. 3-5
Ist
for a full colleciton.
And keys do drop. They have a drop chance that is roughly 1/10 to 1/15, so you CAN farm those. It's not like a
Ohm
or
Sur
Rune that has a theoretical chance to drop.
Farming Nilathak can be difficult if your gear is bad nowever.
If this is the case, farm e.g.
The Countess
. 3 of her Keys = 1 x
Ist
. And she drops a lot of low runes (remember -
Hel
+
Ral
can be easily sold)

- Tokens of Absolution - roughly values 1 x
Ist

Sometimes even a little higher.
The Essence you need for those are dropped by the bosses. Again, the drop chances are very realistic, so if you do farm the bosses, these essences will drop.
Farming Mephi
Baal
and Diablo may be difficult if your gear is bad.


-> All of the 4 methods will DEFINITLY get you
Ist
runes. You do NOT need luck, for none of them. Because the drop rates of all the stuff I mentioned are so high, that you inevetiably will get them, if you play the game.
And for the first two, you do not even have to have decent gear.



If you dive deeper into the game you may want to "learn" what items are valuable. Grey items can be very expensive. Yellow items can be very expensive. Even the blue ones can be expensive. Not only legendary items have value in D2. But it is quite confusing to learn which item may have value and which doesn't.


With these tipps, you will be able to equip any char decently and reliable, without having to be lucky or well equipped in the first place (to be able to farm difficult spots e.g.)
Keep in mind, that some chars are easier and cheaper to equip (e.g. Javazone or Sorc) than others (Barb).

I am sure there is a ton more to say, but I'll leave it at that - maybe others will add to it.
Should I have made an error somehwere, I'd appreciate it if somebody points it out :)
5

Can be used to make Runewords:

7
Diablo 2 can be very overwhelming for players. You look at your own chars and you found very few High Runes (
Ist
or higher) - or maybe none at all. But there are trades for 1
Jah
. 5
Jah
. 10
Jah
.
So you may ask: "How do I find these runes myself"

Short answer: "You don't"
Longer answer: Well, if you play quite a long time, kill a lot of monsters, sooner or later a high rune will drop. But you will never find 10 Jahr or whatever.

But the good thing is: You don't need to.

There are a lot of ways to get good gear for your character without relying on luck.
I am talking about good gear - not godly gear.

Here are some tipps that are (IMO) important for new players:

1) You do NOT want to look for very good rolls on items.
In Diablo2, a lot of items (or runewords) have a range of different attributes.
In general, if you are relatively new and not rich, and if you look at guides which items may be usefull for you, you do NOT want the good rolled items. Not to speak about perfect rolled ones.
-> These are WAY too expensive for you.
The price difference between a low roll and a high roll is easily 10 times the price. For perfect rolls often way higher.
But the power level of the item - the combat power of your character - barely increases.
One example: A 10/10 Torch for your char will be very cheap. Depending on your class less than an
Ist
, maybe 1
Ist
.
A 18/18 Torch for your char will cost
Jah
or more. A 20/20 will be 10+
Jah
. So the price difference between 10/10 and 18/18 is very high, between 10/10 and 20/20 insane.
But your power level? Well, you get +3 to all skills, no matter the torch. So a 10/10 and a 20/20 is NOT doulbe the combat power. It is waaaay less, because the biggest boost
Ist
the +3 to all skills.

The same is true for all other items. Since on every item only a few attributes are variables, a perfect roll is only a relatively small power boost compared to a low roll.

-> Buy items that have low rolls.

2) Not every recommend item in builds is the best choice for you.
In guides you will often see e.g. "Enigma" - yeah, great armor, great versatility.
But Diablo 2 offers a ton of great items that are very cheap to get. There are way too many items to make a full list, but here are some items that are easy to get and very powerful:
Treachery - an amazing armor for your merc and - depending on your char - you as well. Best in Slot? No. But very cheap and affordable. And if you are a char that hits with a weapon (no matter the class) it is a good budget choice
Spirit - an absolute powerhouse for every caster. Again, relatively cheap to make. It adds insane combat power for very little price
Insight - yet again, a very cheap rune word that is a great weapon for a level 2 merc. It solves all your mana issues. And a merc with Treachery and Insight is standing quite strong and does not die that easily. Don't forget to build new Insights when you level up. A high level merc can wield more powerful Insight weapons, doing more damage, leeching more (if you have the next item on the list)
Tal
Rashas's Horadric Crest - a horrible item for a caster, but an amazing item for every merc. Dirt cheap (drops all the time), and has All Resistance and 10% Lifeleech for your merc.
Leaf - again, a very cheap rune word that is good for several characters
TirTir - a helmet with 2 x
Tir
rune. No rune word, just gives you +4 mana after each kill. Very usefull in the early game.
Harlequin Crest
- a relatively cheap item (
Ist
at most, often even cheaper) that helps a lot. +2 to all skills, tons of life and mana, 50% magic find. A cheap, good solution for every char.

Like I said, there are a ton more examples.


With 1) and 2) combined you will be able to find gear for every slot that is relatively cheap or can easily be self found. Still, you'll need a few
Ist
runes for all the stuff.


3) How to get
Ist
runes in the first place?

You trade for them. But NOT by finding a super valuable item or High Rune like
Ber
or
Jah
. That may happen. It probably won't.
But it doesn't has to.
There are several possibilities to reliably get
Ist
runes.
Perfect Gems
- collect flawless gems and cube them up. 20
Perfect Gems
(PG) can always be traded for 1 x
Ist

Perfect Amethysts are even more valuable, 8 x PA = 1 x
Ist


Low Runes that have value:
Hel
- 8 x
Hel
= 1 x
Ist

Ral
- 20 x
Ral
= 1 x
Ist

Other runes can sometimes be traded in bulk as well.
Sol
,
Amn
, thul - sometimes you can sell these with 20 or 30 for 1 x
Ist

Don't waste time to cube up runes. Don't bother with
El
, Elds and whatever.
You maybe want to cube up the runes that result in
Hel
runes or in
Ral
runes, that can be usefull, because like I said, these 2 runes can be sold reliable and instantly.

-> These are two possibilities to get reliable and easy
Ist
runes.
These 2 runes drop often. Flaweless Gems drop often. Pick them up!
No need to farm difficult spots. Just play the game, kill stuff and these gems and runes will drop. No matter how unlucky you are^^

Other good ways to earn
Ist
runes:
- Collect Keys.
If you manage to farm all 3 keys, you can make a collection of 3 x 3 keys. (That opens Uber-
Tristram
) - these are very valuable. 3-5
Ist
for a full colleciton.
And keys do drop. They have a drop chance that is roughly 1/10 to 1/15, so you CAN farm those. It's not like a
Ohm
or
Sur
Rune that has a theoretical chance to drop.
Farming Nilathak can be difficult if your gear is bad nowever.
If this is the case, farm e.g.
The Countess
. 3 of her Keys = 1 x
Ist
. And she drops a lot of low runes (remember -
Hel
+
Ral
can be easily sold)

- Tokens of Absolution - roughly values 1 x
Ist

Sometimes even a little higher.
The Essence you need for those are dropped by the bosses. Again, the drop chances are very realistic, so if you do farm the bosses, these essences will drop.
Farming Mephi
Baal
and Diablo may be difficult if your gear is bad.


-> All of the 4 methods will DEFINITLY get you
Ist
runes. You do NOT need luck, for none of them. Because the drop rates of all the stuff I mentioned are so high, that you inevetiably will get them, if you play the game.
And for the first two, you do not even have to have decent gear.



If you dive deeper into the game you may want to "learn" what items are valuable. Grey items can be very expensive. Yellow items can be very expensive. Even the blue ones can be expensive. Not only legendary items have value in D2. But it is quite confusing to learn which item may have value and which doesn't.


With these tipps, you will be able to equip any char decently and reliable, without having to be lucky or well equipped in the first place (to be able to farm difficult spots e.g.)
Keep in mind, that some chars are easier and cheaper to equip (e.g. Javazone or Sorc) than others (Barb).

I am sure there is a ton more to say, but I'll leave it at that - maybe others will add to it.
Should I have made an error somehwere, I'd appreciate it if somebody points it out :)
7
Very nice guide! And I suppose it also takes a lot of the frustration away from newer "poor" players who think they'll never get anywhere. Thanks for the effort!
7
User avatar

vued 1019

Sorceress Europe PC
Pretty solid and timeless advice. This thread should be pinned 👍

One more easy way to get an
Ist
: just gather all crap jewels. The rates dropped recently but 40-80 crafting jewels still gets you an
Ist
. I think that's much easier than getting a Token.

I've got on SCNL
- Mosaics, Cures, and Hustles
- GG crafted amulets
- Perfect uniques
- Bases
=> member/vued/
7
User avatar

LoTra 131

Asia PC
another way to get couple of Jahs if your day is full of luck :) spend few hours with (1)
Anya
/
Charsi
, search for Jeweler armor of Whale, Greater Talon/Greater Claw with 40 IAS 2 Assa SK 3 LS... (2)
Akara
,
War Scepter
2 Pal SK, 10 FCR, 3 FoH + 3
Conviction
or 3 Bless hammer + 3
Concentration
then socket it.

any of my trades can be converted among:
Ist
,
Key
, pgem, token, essence Destruction
base unit is
Ist

1
Ist
= 25 pgem
1
Ist
= 4 keys
1
Ist
= 1 token
1
Ist
= 4 essence Destruction
7
"Short answer: You dont" what kind of bs guide is that?
Ofc you get hr drops eventually, but its not something you can count on.
Most likely youll end up buying/trading from botter or duper overpriced rune.
7
Very good noobie guide!

Some small detail where I disagree:

"Don't waste time to cube up runes. Don't bother with
El
, Elds and whatever." Once I did 1000 Hell Countess runs and I only got 55
El
and 41
Eld
, but I got 231
Ort
and 217
Tal
.

Despite being the lowest runes,
El
and
Eld
are much rarer than
Tal
,
Ort
, thul and at least non-ladder you can trade them easily, often 20 for
Ist
, sometimes even just 10 for
Ist
. I often do Hell Countess runs and always pick them up and I have sold many of them. Other low runes that have value but are often overlooked:
Nef
,
Amn
,
Dol
(1/3 of
Hel
, always pick up chipped Emeralds to turn
Dol
into
Hel
!)
7
Semirotta wrote: 4 hours ago
"Short answer: You dont" what kind of bs guide is that?
Ofc you get hr drops eventually, but it's not something you can count on.
Most likely youll end up buying/trading from botter or duper overpriced rune.
The question should be rephrased: "How do I find HR to finance my gear?" "You don't. You collect lots of little stuff, lower runes, tokens, keys, bases etc. With this income you buy badly-rolled gear on discount. You can trade long before you fand a
Lo
/
Ber
/
Jah
. All right about that.
7
Good overall however a bit heavy handed. The "Do Not" approaches are what threw me off a bit. However, RNG is no ones friend and can be a little frustrating to some. Though the ones with the frustration often have the wrong expectations.

I do like the "What an
Ist
rune is worth" education. You see it all the time in game or on the market where someone wants a
Jah
for an item of extreme lower value. People need education like this or they will never complete a trade or the will be laughed at.

People also need to read guides like this to enlighten themselves. Different perspectives help a person generate proper thought. And we all can use help improving our communication (Subjective).
9

Advertisment

Hide ads
999

Greetings stranger!

You don't appear to be logged in...

No matches
 

 

 

 

You haven't specified which diablo2.io user you completed this trade with. This means that you will not be able to exchange trust.

Are you sure you want to continue?

Yes, continue without username
No, I will specify a username
Choose which dclone tracking options you want to see in this widget:
Value:
Hide ads forever by supporting the site with a donation.

Greetings adblocker...

Warriv asks that you consider disabling your adblocker when using diablo2.io

Ad revenue helps keep the servers going and supports me, the site's creator :)

A one-time donation hides all ads, forever:
Make a donation