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Noob question: how can Blood Gloves be useful?

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I am trying to use some of my P Gems in my offline SSF play-through. I have the general idea that P Amethyst is the most valuable because Caster Amulet is so useful. Then I saw someone also mentioning Blood Ring and Blood Gloves. Blood Ring, I can somehow understand a bit, for some physical builds that demand dual leech, but for Blood Gloves, I really do not see any use case, despite the page saying:

It's the second most popular crafting recipe, losing only for Caster Amulet recipe. This recipe makes the Perfect Ruby the second most important gem in the game.

recipes/recipe-blood-gloves-t3870.html
by Alexandre_Souza

Despite the claim, my own analysis shows there is close to zero use case for Blood Gloves.

Gloves can only spawn Assassin or Amazon skills, then think about these two classes: Bow Amazon demands Hitpower Gloves, and Javazon wants Caster Gloves because of the 3EK. Assassin? Mosaicsin does not need the pathetic 3% or 6% LL from Blood Gloves, and most importantly, Magefist or Trang-Oul's Claws are BIS for faster TP when using Enigma. Hence, no one benefiting from the skills wants to use Blood Gloves.

Okay, then 20 IAS 10 CB is still valuable? But Smiters use Dracul's Grasp, don't they? LL from Blood Gloves won't work for Ubers anyway, and 10 CB is nowhere as valuable as the 5% Chance To Cast Level 10 Life Tap On Striking from Dracul's Grasp.

Somewhere else I found people saying Blood Gloves can be useful for PvP Bow Amazon when it has 6% LL. Well, okay, I can accept that, but there is absolutely NO WAY that this makes Blood Gloves the second most popular crafting recipe, unless I am missing the "fact" that EVERYONE is hyped about using Bow Amazon to PvP 24/7.

In conclusion, it really confuses me. Am I missing something? What is the true reason that P Ruby stands out from other P Gems? If we forget about Blood Gloves, is Blood Ring really worthy crafting? I have done no research about that.

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czh `7`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

It's the second most popular crafting recipe, losing only for Caster Amulet recipe. This recipe makes the Perfect Ruby the second most important gem in the game.

recipes/recipe-blood-gloves-t3870.html
by Alexandre_Souza

Despite the claim, my own analysis shows there is close to zero use case for Blood Gloves.

Gloves can only spawn Assassin or Amazon skills, then think about these two classes: Bow Amazon demands Hitpower Gloves, and Javazon wants Caster Gloves because of the 3EK. Assassin? Mosaicsin does not need the pathetic 3% or 6% LL from Blood Gloves, and most importantly, Magefist or Trang-Oul's Claws are BIS for faster TP when using Enigma. Hence, no one benefiting from the skills wants to use Blood Gloves.

Okay, then 20 IAS 10 CB is still valuable? But Smiters use Dracul's Grasp, don't they? LL from Blood Gloves won't work for Ubers anyway, and 10 CB is nowhere as valuable as the 5% Chance To Cast Level 10 Life Tap On Striking from Dracul's Grasp.

Somewhere else I found people saying Blood Gloves can be useful for PvP Bow Amazon when it has 6% LL. Well, okay, I can accept that, but there is absolutely NO WAY that this makes Blood Gloves the second most popular crafting recipe, unless I am missing the "fact" that EVERYONE is hyped about using Bow Amazon to PvP 24/7.

Answeredby Knappogue • 7 months ago•Go to post

czh wrote: 7 months ago
Okay, then 20 IAS 10 CB is still valuable? But Smiters use Dracul's Grasp, don't they? LL from Blood Gloves won't work for Ubers anyway, and 10 CB is nowhere as valuable as the 5% Chance To Cast Level 10 Life Tap On Striking from Dracul's Grasp.

Not all smiter's use Dracul's Grasp. My smiter, for example, doesn't. I use Exile which gives me 15% CtC Life Tap. The Blood Gloves I use are 20IAS/2ll/10CB/20life/27light res/19fire res. The 20 life is BOable and the res helps for the meph over-res. Since I don't use G-face my only other CB is from my boots.

My Fury druid and Mosaic assassin also have their own pair.

There are other uses of blood gloves too. Certain pvp paladin and barb builds can also benefit from them.

czh wrote: 7 months ago
Somewhere else I found people saying Blood Gloves can be useful for PvP Bow Amazon when it has 6% LL. Well, okay, I can accept that, but there is absolutely NO WAY that this makes Blood Gloves the second most popular crafting recipe, unless I am missing the "fact" that EVERYONE is hyped about using Bow Amazon to PvP 24/7.

Not sure where you read this but I wouldn't put any stock into it. Leech doesn't work in pvp so that is bogus.

czh wrote: 7 months ago
Then I saw someone also mentioning Blood Ring and Blood Gloves. Blood Ring, I can somehow understand a bit, for some physical builds that demand dual leech

Most of my characters use a blood ring. Dual leech is not at valuable or sought after as you might think. Blood rings can roll with 20str, 120attack rating, min and or max dmg, res, dex, life, mana. Clearly not all of those affixes can roll on one ring, but you get the idea.

EDIT: And 10 FCR, I omitted the most important affix on a blood ring.

You didn't mention Blood Boots, and they aren't a popular craft but good rolls can be very expensive. I personally really enjoy crafting them. You can get tri-res blood boots too.

leox `518`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

it is amazon jav, with engima, enough ek/lpk
You will want this over caster.
and it is cheap. vs caster and its function is not much difference.

Smite need cb, but some will use unique things

Some Trade is available for both rotw and LoD, Most rune , Perfect Gems is only in LoD side.
I will busy at us Stock market open time. 9:30 a.m. ET

czh `7`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

leox wrote: 7 months ago
it is amazon jav, with engima, enough ek/lpk
You will want this over caster.
and it is cheap. vs caster and its function is not much difference.

Smite need cb, but some will use unique things

Sorry, I am not getting it. If I am not mistaken, Enigma does provide life after each kill but does not provide mana after each kill. In common builds, rings have mana leech but mana after each kill seems to be from Caster Gloves only, then how can Blood Gloves take its place?

For smiters, yes smiters need CB, but 75% CB can be reasonably obtained from other sources. I don't know how I feel about this.

mhlg `3457`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

czh wrote: 7 months ago

leox wrote: 7 months ago
it is amazon jav, with engima, enough ek/lpk
You will want this over caster.
and it is cheap. vs caster and its function is not much difference.

Smite need cb, but some will use unique things
Sorry, I am not getting it. If I am not mistaken, Enigma does provide life after each kill but does not provide mana after each kill. In common builds, rings have mana leech but mana after each kill seems to be from Caster Gloves only, then how can Blood Gloves take its place?

For smiters, yes smiters need CB, but 75% CB can be reasonably obtained from other sources. I don't know how I feel about this.

A good pair of Blood Gloves can be useful for a strafezon or Javazon, such as 20% IAS, leech, and more.

czh `7`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

mhlg wrote: 7 months ago

czh wrote: 7 months ago

leox wrote: 7 months ago
it is amazon jav, with engima, enough ek/lpk
You will want this over caster.
and it is cheap. vs caster and its function is not much difference.

Smite need cb, but some will use unique things
Sorry, I am not getting it. If I am not mistaken, Enigma does provide life after each kill but does not provide mana after each kill. In common builds, rings have mana leech but mana after each kill seems to be from Caster Gloves only, then how can Blood Gloves take its place?

For smiters, yes smiters need CB, but 75% CB can be reasonably obtained from other sources. I don't know how I feel about this.
A good pair of Blood Gloves can be useful for a strafezon or Javazon, such as 20% IAS, leech, and more.

bloodglove.JPG

Yes I am well aware of this, but the point is, for javazon, +3 mana per kill from Caster Gloves is presumably better than the life leech. Any rare, or crafted gloves, can spawn +2 javalin skills and 20 IAS, that is not unique to Blood Gloves. I just do not understand the claim that Blood Gloves are second most sought after crafted items and thus making P Ruby worthy, when the above reply claims it is cheap (then it is not heavily sought after), and when the BIS is Caster Gloves.

leox `518`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

czh wrote: 7 months ago

leox wrote: 7 months ago
it is amazon jav, with engima, enough ek/lpk
You will want this over caster.
and it is cheap. vs caster and its function is not much difference.

Smite need cb, but some will use unique things
Sorry, I am not getting it. If I am not mistaken, Enigma does provide life after each kill but does not provide mana after each kill. In common builds, rings have mana leech but mana after each kill seems to be from Caster Gloves only, then how can Blood Gloves take its place?

For smiters, yes smiters need CB, but 75% CB can be reasonably obtained from other sources. I don't know how I feel about this.

You are right about engima,
life per kill can get from multiple shield.
Blood Gloves is mainly on CB, it help single player to kill Baal.

it is depends on build, some want to use facet, then they might want to use Caster Gloves.

Some have enough damage, not use facet on shield, they get CB gloves. it is my current build, perfect blood amazon gloves.
I have a long time not open my amazon, my is just enough to kill regular monsters with 1 shot .

The thing you want to check is the value of Perfect Gems. Perfect Amethyst, it is mainly used and craft in amulet a lot.
Your idea on Caster Gloves also make sense. If I play amazon, I can use both caster or Blood Gloves. but I still prefer blood, only when I get Caster Gloves material blue gloves that I will try to craft it.

The Perfect Ruby for amulet craft is not so welcome but it can be used on bar.

In the end, if you are not so poor crafter, I will recommend use Caster Gloves. For me, it cost too much, I will priority it to amulet then use equal or slightly week in logistic Blood Gloves.

Craft is always good, try it. it will be interesting.

Some Trade is available for both rotw and LoD, Most rune , Perfect Gems is only in LoD side.
I will busy at us Stock market open time. 9:30 a.m. ET

Knappogue `3270`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

czh wrote: 7 months ago
Okay, then 20 IAS 10 CB is still valuable? But Smiters use Dracul's Grasp, don't they? LL from Blood Gloves won't work for Ubers anyway, and 10 CB is nowhere as valuable as the 5% Chance To Cast Level 10 Life Tap On Striking from Dracul's Grasp.

Not all smiter's use Dracul's Grasp. My smiter, for example, doesn't. I use Exile which gives me 15% CtC Life Tap. The Blood Gloves I use are 20IAS/2ll/10CB/20life/27light res/19fire res. The 20 life is BOable and the res helps for the meph over-res. Since I don't use G-face my only other CB is from my Boots.

My Fury druid and Mosaic assassin also have their own pair.

There are other uses of Blood Gloves too. Certain pvp paladin and barb builds can also benefit from them.

czh wrote: 7 months ago
Somewhere else I found people saying Blood Gloves can be useful for PvP Bow Amazon when it has 6% LL. Well, okay, I can accept that, but there is absolutely NO WAY that this makes Blood Gloves the second most popular crafting recipe, unless I am missing the "fact" that EVERYONE is hyped about using Bow Amazon to PvP 24/7.

Not sure where you read this but I wouldn't put any stock into it. Leech doesn't work in pvp so that is bogus.

czh wrote: 7 months ago
Then I saw someone also mentioning Blood Ring and Blood Gloves. Blood Ring, I can somehow understand a bit, for some physical builds that demand dual leech

Most of my characters use a Blood Ring. Dual leech is not at valuable or sought after as you might think. Blood rings can roll with 20str, 120attack rating, min and or max dmg, res, dex, life, mana. Clearly not all of those affixes can roll on one ring, but you get the idea.

EDIT: And 10 FCR, I omitted the most important affix on a Blood Ring.

You didn't mention Blood Boots, and they aren't a popular craft but good rolls can be very expensive. I personally really enjoy crafting them. You can get tri-res Blood Boots too.

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czh `7`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

Knappogue wrote: 7 months ago
Not all smiter's use Dracul's Grasp. My smiter, for example, doesn't. I use Exile which gives me 15% CtC Life Tap. The Blood Gloves I use are 20IAS/2ll/10CB/20life/27light res/19fire res. The 20 life is BOable and the res helps for the meph over-res. Since I don't use G-face my only other CB is from my Boots.

You are right, I forgot that you can get Life Tap on Exile. I guess a few use cases is enough to make Blood crafting the second most popular. Perhaps I had a too unrealistic expectation on Blood Gloves.

czh `7`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

leox wrote: 7 months ago
In the end, if you are not so poor crafter, I will recommend use Caster Gloves. For me, it cost too much, I will priority it to amulet then use equal or slightly week in logistic Blood Gloves.

Makes sense, and perhaps +2 javalin 20 IAS Blood Gloves are by-products of perfect smiter gloves? I agree they are very usable and can be very cost-effective.

leox `518`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

czh wrote: 7 months ago

leox wrote: 7 months ago
In the end, if you are not so poor crafter, I will recommend use Caster Gloves. For me, it cost too much, I will priority it to amulet then use equal or slightly week in logistic Blood Gloves.
Makes sense, and perhaps +2 javalin 20 IAS Blood Gloves are by-products of perfect smiter gloves? I agree they are very usable and can be very cost-effective.

+2 javalin 20 IAS LR CB Blood Gloves
I am use this for my amazon.

The thing is I need Perfect Amethyst for amulet. Last few month, I use like 10k Perfect Amethyst to craft things.
It will be impossible for me to spend the same on ' Caster Gloves' . Blood Gloves works well, even if that means I need to use some unique shield to get mana per kill...

My top spend is Perfect Amethyst, then Perfect Skull.
Perfect Ruby thing is early days before I came here. At that time, it is impossible to have any Perfect Ruby in hand and I am not the one who play(my brother). He keeps tell me , all gloves sucks . Just focus on Blood Gloves. He play smiter, amazon.

Some Trade is available for both rotw and LoD, Most rune , Perfect Gems is only in LoD side.
I will busy at us Stock market open time. 9:30 a.m. ET

Knappogue `3270`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

czh wrote: 7 months ago
I guess a few use cases is enough to make Blood crafting the second most popular. Perhaps I had a too unrealistic expectation on Blood Gloves.

Just because its the 2nd most popular craft doesn't mean it is crafted a lot. Caster Amulets are definitely the most popular craft, BY FAR.

As of right now on, this site, there are 77 Caster Amulet for sale, 39 Blood Ring, and 22 Blood Gloves. So Blood Gloves is 3rd (at the moment). But even still the 2nd and 3rd most popular craft combined still doesn't even match the most popular.

Knappogue `3270`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

czh wrote: 7 months ago

leox wrote: 7 months ago
In the end, if you are not so poor crafter, I will recommend use Caster Gloves. For me, it cost too much, I will priority it to amulet then use equal or slightly week in logistic Blood Gloves.
Makes sense, and perhaps +2 javalin 20 IAS Blood Gloves are by-products of perfect smiter gloves? I agree they are very usable and can be very cost-effective.

Perfect smiter gloves won't roll with skills, since skills would take the place of a different usable affix. For me, perfect smiter gloves would be 20ias/3ll/10cb/20life/15str/15dex/30 light res.

czh `7`

7 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

Knappogue wrote: 7 months ago
Perfect smiter gloves won't roll with skills, since skills would take the place of a different usable affix. For me, perfect smiter gloves would be 20ias/3ll/10cb/20life/15str/15dex/30 light res.

Yes I know this. I actually saw this desired affix combo somewhere else but didn't really appreciate the value of Blood Gloves for smiters. Was only considering Dracul's Grasp, until you pointed out Exile. I just meant if during the crafting process some gloves roll +2 skill 20 IAS then can still have value for sell, though not the initial target.