20 Jah for this ring? WTF

Hi guys! Hope you don't mind I ask this question here.
I just saw a post of a ring which is being sold for 20

Jah.
I'm slowly learning more stuff about the market, but this really caught my attention.
Is this for real? Why is it so expensive? I don't relate the stats it has to be worth that much

Is it being sold or offered? Just someone wanting to get 20

Jah for this doesn't mean someone is paying it. There is a veeery wide price range for items.

yeah it's asking 20 Jahs for it.

To my eyes I wouldn't pay even 1

Jah for it, but that's exactly what raised my curiosity, is there a specific use case for such a ring, that makes it that valuable?

I don't see it either.

At first , it is ladder. which makes this item less worth

Jah.

In the view of a good ring,
Light resist is needed, max 30, 26 is good
10FCR yes
mana 80+ is also good
Attack rating 100+ also good
mana steal good
str bad roll but can use..

Basically a ring with 4 good Roll is worth something , this get 5 good roll. So this one worth some.

But the problem is that, this ring is not caster , not amazon, ok for some assasain. Makes it very bad.

rare ring is between 4-6 roll , which makes get a 4+something ok ring very difficult.

As caster ,
I need 10 FCR, mana, LR, All Resist, STR, DR DEX , this ring is only 3 hit and low str

All hit and 6 good roll ring is between 100-200

Jah.

for those 5 good and 1 ok all hit for caster, 20

Jah would usually consider cheap but not this kind.

4 hit and some kind of ok roll for craft ring is usually 20

Jah worth materials. for example, bloody ring, 4 hit and ok roll in leech.

leox wrote: 21 hours ago

At first , it is ladder. which makes this item less worth

Jah.

In the view of a good ring,
Light resist is needed, max 30, 26 is good
10FCR yes
mana 80+ is also good
Attack rating 100+ also good
mana steal good
str bad roll but can use..

Basically a ring with 4 good Roll is worth something , this get 5 good roll. So this one worth some.

But the problem is that, this ring is not caster , not amazon, ok for some assasain. Makes it very bad.

rare ring is between 4-6 roll , which makes get a 4+something ok ring very difficult.

As caster ,
I need 10 FCR, mana, LR, All Resist, STR, DR DEX , this ring is only 3 hit and low str

All hit and 6 good roll ring is between 100-200

Jah.

for those 5 good and 1 ok all hit for caster, 20

Jah would usually consider cheap but not this kind.

4 hit and some kind of ok roll for craft ring is usually 20

Jah worth materials. for example, bloody ring, 4 hit and ok roll in leech.

on non-ladder it would be more worth?

FOR good roll, yes,

this , no

That ain't worth 20

Jah, but you can always count on some players to over value items THEY think are god tier.

yeah that makes total sense, thanks for sharing your input Leox.

I was trying to find logic between the stats of the ring and a specific build that could make use of those but couldn't find any, it's like having a good roll of stats overall but all scattered in things that don't create value for any character

To OP

Traderie isnt a good verifiable source for actual sales items.

Also most items on that site is highly overpriced

The ring in question is decent, worth some jahs, but asking price of 20 jahs is to much.

Like i said most items on traderies are overpriced… i never use traderie as a baseline for item prices.

I just don't see

Charsi handing over 20

Jah for it. In my view it's a hodgepodge of attributes. For instance, a strafezon can benefit from the AR, lighting resist, and the 6% mana leech, but the rest is not all that useful. The ring as a package in my view isn't that special for any particular build and that reduces its value.

Ofc its worth that much why because its his

leox wrote: 21 hours ago

But the problem is that, this ring is not caster , not amazon, ok for some assasain. Makes it very bad.

Not Amazon? Dude, this ring has 4 top tier mods for Javazon, all with high rolls. 1 off of perfect mana roll, perfect mana leech, high lightning resist roll to counter sunder, and FCR for tele. Not sure if worth 20

Jah, but definitely worth a lot.

Don't look at asking prices but on past sales to get a better understanding of what's worth what.
This ring is very good and very rare. He won't get 20

Jah on ladder but it is worth several

Jah.
Many high value items don't look good to new players but by getting a deeper understanding of the mechanics, it becomes clear why things like 120AR or 90 mana on a ring are valuable.

That looks like it was on Traderie? I did take a look there a couple times out of curiosity, and my general take away was this was a site full of pot smokers so **** high when they posted their idiotic trades.

Almost all the trades were asking significantly more than this whacky thing called reality. Case in point, I did see similar post of someone asking 20x JAHs for

Eth

Berserker Axe. No sockets, just that. Yet I was able to get an

Eth 5os Zerker for 1x

Jah. Traderie is a site getting promoted by a few Youtubers, but I also found the search function to be crap. Am very happy with this sites search & filter.

The other way to look this ring is you can treat it as 3+1weak ring, battle and sorc , two in one ring.
It will surely better than regular perfect 3+1 rare ring(few

Jah) but it wont go more than 2x(regular 3 perfect+1weak roll price)

The build cost for build this ring using craft is around 3jah worth

Perfect Gems.

3+1

Mastah99 wrote: 13 hours ago

leox wrote: 21 hours ago

But the problem is that, this ring is not caster , not amazon, ok for some assasain. Makes it very bad.

Not Amazon? Dude, this ring has 4 top tier mods for Javazon, all with high rolls. 1 off of perfect mana roll, perfect mana leech, high lightning resist roll to counter sunder, and FCR for tele. Not sure if worth 20

Jah, but definitely worth a lot.

What is the 4th one? What is even the 3rd one? AR is useless for Javazon since you are extremely rarely killing stuff with the direct impact from the singular physical jav.

Lightning Fury bolts are always hit thing same as any other "spell" (same goes for

Charged Strike -- you don't need to actually hit for the bolts to be released => more of that on this post forums/lightning-strike-and-charged-str ... 72147.html). Javazons prefer all res and dual leech over singular ones in both cases (3/3 is better than 0/6) and +mana is not at all needed since you have access to CtA (+you just need leech). High Lr and FCR are still preferable yes but everything else is meh. If there was 37-38 Life instead of Mana (in case of

Blood Ring ~55 Life) it would've been close to gg. On the other hand, I always preferred something like 1 MOK which is, in most cases, waaay better than any low mLeech roll for Javazon grind just because of the pure OP kill speed (imho). But then again, I don't hardcore grind. MOK is more reliable in my opinion tho since you can't leech from some sources and MOK always activates.

A GG/Uber ring (even tho it's not perfect) would be something like: 25 25 Fr & Lr + min. 8 all res + dual leech (for example 6/5 is good enough) + FCR + min. 15 str/dex!

TheDoo wrote: 4 hours ago

What is the 4th one? What is even the 3rd one? AR is useless for Javazon since you are extremely rarely killing stuff with the direct impact from the singular physical jav.

Lightning Fury bolts are always hit thing same as any other "spell" (same goes for

Charged Strike -- you don't need to actually hit for the bolts to be released => more of that on this post forums/lightning-strike-and-charged-str ... 72147.html). Javazons prefer all res and dual leech over singular ones in both cases (3/3 is better than 0/6) and +mana is not at all needed since you have access to CtA (+you just need leech). High Lr and FCR are still preferable yes but everything else is meh. If there was 37-38 Life instead of Mana (in case of

Blood Ring ~55 Life) it would've been close to gg. On the other hand, I always preferred something like 1 MOK which is, in most cases, waaay better than any low mLeech roll for Javazon grind just because of the pure OP kill speed (imho). But then again, I don't hardcore grind. MOK is more reliable in my opinion tho since you can't leech from some sources and MOK always activates.

A GG/Uber ring (even tho it's not perfect) would be something like: 25 25 Fr & Lr + min. 8 all res + dual leech (for example 6/5 is good enough) + FCR + min. 15 str/dex!

Java needs AR because you only leech from physical attacks. No physical hit => no leech.

Java needs LR the most, so 30LR >11@ in most cases.

There are other good sources for life leech for a Java but mana can basically only come from 2nd ring (gloves being the other source and they only provide 3).

In PvP you need mana since you can't leech, but in this case the combo of mana+mana leech does not make sense.

Why do you need fcr when you play amzn?

isnt it depends on your attack speed? and if your attack good enough, you dont even need throw a lot of bolt, 2 usually overkill.
Unless you use it to

Teleport.

I usually use ring have 3 major property good hit.

mama is good adjustment, it can make you throw 3 more jav but it is not must. A ring have mana is usually big plus for amazon but not as needed as Light Resist +All Resist. This 2 usually top pick. In this ring, No All resist but get very high Light Resist, for jav, it should consider second rank tier best ring.

A ring has high Light Resist + soso All Resist can consider bottom of first rank, unless your other things overly skew into resist.

Please consider this case

Safety vs this

DR +MDR
Light Resist 25 vs Light Resist 29
All Resist 7 vs 100 Attack rating
Fire Resist 20 vs x mana Leech
x vs Mana
x vs DEX

Craft ring usually cost 3

Jah worth

Perfect Gems to make looks like this. high/low roll, depends but mod can look like this way

--Must have 3--
I usually think I need (LR/FR/All Resist ) pick 2 or 3
(mana/life leech) pick 1

---good to have--
(mana/life) pick 1
(STR/DEX/min dam) pick 1

Yeah, I see your points @vued and @leox now. And yes, that is another thing in favor for MOK instead of leech for me at least, or just completely circumvent mana and use Insight on Merc. Even on players 8 you won't lose that much of clearing speed if not using Infinity I would assume just simply for the solely reason of Javazon being OP (but then who knows, maybe it's significant to players who lose like 5-10 secs and actually see that gap as serious one).

But what I was saying about mana in general, what you can do with 750 total mana, you can also do same with 500 total mana unless you are const. telestomping.

I'm also not a PvPer so I wouldn't know about what's needed there.