Trade safety

TheDoo wrote: 1 month ago

It's actually sad seeing more and more players are switching to the dark side and [..]

Sadly, those folks have always been around, even back in the good old days of the original D2 and such.
Though they do indeed seem to become worse and more common these days, across multiple games (and in other parts of life tbh).
Sad indeed.

That said, in terms of trade safety:
For any and all "reasonable" trades, just use the trade window. Yes, pulling in 10-40 items is annoying but it is neither an unusual nor an unreasonable ask from either side. Only if it actually doesn't fit the window, look for alternatives such as dropping the "down payment" that exceeds the window, doing "full window vs. item, rest then dropped", finding a well known/reputed mediator to hold the goods for you and so on. Personally, I just don't do drop trades with people I don't know/who aren't well known (and reputed) here unless they are fine with dropping first. Or unless I'm just feeling exceptionally lazy and don't really care anyways atm. ^^

The approach of "its a 60

Jah trade so trade 2 other things in between that are worth ~30

Jah each and then those 2 back for the thing they actually want" always seemed rather silly to me and I fully support anyone refusing to go that route, simply because from the flipped perspective, there are absolutely also people out there who will then stick them with the 2 lower value bits (they otherwise couldn't get rid of) and just keeping what they actually promised, leaving them with technically no much value loss but something they have 0 interest in and extra trade effort to turn that back into Jahs or whatever.

If you do stick to better known folks (at least here) though in cases of drop trades, I for one have never had any issues and have done countless such trades both, dropping first and dropping last, not only for things that are simply too annoying via the trade window (or don't fit) but also to go across modes and trade ladder for non-ladder and vice versa. But again, wouldn't drop first unless I have a solid grasp on who the other side is and whether they can generally be trusted.

ladder non ladder trade,
that you have to pay a little bit first, then get something depends on interest of the other side, then pay 50% . Then get rest of goods then pay final. If you buy a lot. (ed. record purchase of Hustle sword)

Small one just pay a little , get all, pay all.
it needs trust worth people to trade. that cannot be done with 0 trust one.

Nice ideas. I did not think about it. I is really annoying that such people still do their bad things.

I am new to this forum and on this website. How do I report such scams if they are members or not?

Best regards
Katz

Katzefratz wrote: 1 month ago

Nice ideas. I did not think about it. I is really annoying that such people still do their bad things.

I am new to this forum and on this website. How do I report such scams if they are members or not?

Best regards
Katz

Use the flag button to report it to a moderator, provide screenshots/logs. This keeps the investigation private.

Katzefratz wrote: 1 month ago

Nice ideas. I did not think about it. I is really annoying that such people still do their bad things.

I am new to this forum and on this website. How do I report such scams if they are members or not?

Best regards
Katz

I've been trading here for a couple years with a decent number of accomplished trades under my

Belt. I've never had any issues. Not one. I'm cautious with people who have less than 20 trades/trust. But if you have a decent trust or if we have traded before, I'll drop trade jahs without thinking twice.
This is a good community and the moderators do a fantastic job maintaining the ecosphere. Scammers quickly realize the community here is too small to get away with their shenanigans.

Knappogue wrote: 1 month ago

Katzefratz wrote: 1 month ago

Nice ideas. I did not think about it. I is really annoying that such people still do their bad things.

I am new to this forum and on this website. How do I report such scams if they are members or not?

Best regards
Katz

I've been trading here for a couple years with a decent number of accomplished trades under my

Belt. I've never had any issues. Not one. I'm cautious with people who have less than 20 trades/trust. But if you have a decent trust or if we have traded before, I'll drop trade jahs without thinking twice.
This is a good community and the moderators do a fantastic job maintaining the ecosphere. Scammers quickly realize the community here is too small to get away with their shenanigans.

Well said. Thank you. I experienced the exact same things so far here. I am glad that I registered a few days ago.