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I was playing around with
Lava Gout
gloves on my bowazon and they are quite effective!

I was wondering though, when the
Enchant
proc takes place, does it change ALL damage to fire damage? If so, should I use a fire sunder charm?
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I was playing around with
Lava Gout
gloves on my bowazon and they are quite effective!

I was wondering though, when the
Enchant
proc takes place, does it change ALL damage to fire damage? If so, should I use a fire sunder charm?
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Similar question with Treachery… does Venom change dmg to poison?
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Sean 50

Barbarian Americas PC
I'm not 100% sure, but I think they just add extra flat fire/poison damage to your attacks. I don't think any damage is converted - not even physical.

If you do decide that it's necessary to use a sunder charm, then it should be most effective to use one that matches whatever element most of your overall damage is coming from.

Personally, I don't think that sunder charms are necessary unless you don't have a strong backup attack of a different element. I also think that it can be more efficient to just skip enemies with immunity or even high resistance to your main damage type.

I have a character that has access to Venom from a runeword, but it's not particularly potent for an endgame non-poison build. Level 15 Venom is only about 350 poison damage over half of a second.

The attack rating you get from
Enchant
is generally the most valuable bonus on a weapon-oriented character IMO.

Some sorceress builds like
Enchant
, because they use it do double dip in
Fire Mastery
. An optimized enchantress build will give literally thousands of bonus fire damage points.

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ShadowHeart 4913Moderator

Paladin Europe PC Playstation
Enchant
adds fire damage, it doesn't convert your physical damage (or other damage types) to fire.

Same with
Venom: Skill
- it adds poison damage to your attacks, it doesn't convert your attacks to poison.

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TheDoo 558

Europe PC
AFAIK the only things that should "convert" your physical dmg are
Berserk
,
Cold Arrow
,
Fire Arrow
and
Fists of Fire
, all others sources and skills just add 'bonus dmg' on top of what you already have.

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Necrarch 3311Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
... But indeed
Lava Gout
are excellent gloves, very often forgotten - for a build that misses AR (hello barbs!) they can be an excellent choice for the AR bonus especially

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Necrarch wrote: 1 month ago
But indeed
Lava Gout
are excellent gloves, very often forgotten - for a build that misses AR (hello barbs!) they can be an excellent choice for the AR bonus especially
Problem is 2% is low for prebuff.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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TheDoo wrote: 1 month ago
AFAIK the only things that should "convert" your physical dmg are
Berserk
,
Cold Arrow
,
Fire Arrow
and
Fists of Fire
, all others sources and skills just add 'bonus dmg' on top of what you already have.
Also
Magic Arrow
, Dragon Tail,
Lightning Bolt
(but not
Lightning Fury
).
And also
Concentrate
and
Frenzy
- according to the Amazon Basin, they are bugged:
While the synergy bonus displayed is
Berserk
: +% Magic Damage per Level, suggesting 20 points would result in 20% magic damage being added to physical damage, 20% of physical damage would actually be converted to magic damage, resulting in 80% physical and 20% magic damage.

Tornado_OLO wrote: 1 month ago
Necrarch wrote: 1 month ago
But indeed
Lava Gout
are excellent gloves, very often forgotten - for a build that misses AR (hello barbs!) they can be an excellent choice for the AR bonus especially
Problem is 2% is low for prebuff.
For an amazon? With
Strafe
? Players use
Atma's Scarab
for its 5%
Amplify Damage
proc, and it remains useful despite its low proc rate.
Lava Gout
's
Enchant
has only 2% chance, but has to proc only every 6 minutes.
Good old
Demon Limb
is still better, though.
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Trang Oul wrote: 1 month ago
For an amazon?
For a barb.

Demon Limb
is nice, but cost very expensive de repair without cube. With only 20 charges, you have to repair very often.
I only use it for Ubers.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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Lava Gout
and
Demon Limb
are excelent options in scenarios of lack of AR. If AR isn't an issue,
Laying of Hands
is better, grants IAS, tons of FR and damage to demons.
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fredkid 1877

Amazon Americas PC
Dragon Tail
do not convert your damage (I made that same confusion on other thread an somebody explained...)
It add extra Fire damage based on your physical damage, but it do not reduce (or convert) the physical damage part of your kick 😉🤓
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Trang Oul wrote: 1 month ago
TheDoo wrote: 1 month ago
AFAIK the only things that should "convert" your physical dmg are
Berserk
,
Cold Arrow
,
Fire Arrow
and
Fists of Fire
, all others sources and skills just add 'bonus dmg' on top of what you already have.
Also
Magic Arrow
,
Dragon Tail
,
Lightning Bolt
(but not
Lightning Fury
).
And also
Concentrate
and
Frenzy
- according to the Amazon Basin, they are bugged:
While the synergy bonus displayed is
Berserk
: +% Magic Damage per Level, suggesting 20 points would result in 20% magic damage being added to physical damage, 20% of physical damage would actually be converted to magic damage, resulting in 80% physical and 20% magic damage.

Tornado_OLO wrote: 1 month ago
Necrarch wrote: 1 month ago
But indeed
Lava Gout
are excellent gloves, very often forgotten - for a build that misses AR (hello barbs!) they can be an excellent choice for the AR bonus especially
Problem is 2% is low for prebuff.
For an amazon? With
Strafe
? Players use
Atma's Scarab
for its 5%
Amplify Damage
proc, and it remains useful despite its low proc rate.
Lava Gout
's
Enchant
has only 2% chance, but has to proc only every 6 minutes.
Good old
Demon Limb
is still better, though.

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
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BigD 237

Paladin Americas Switch
Tornado_OLO wrote: 1 month ago
Trang Oul wrote: 1 month ago
For an amazon?
For a barb.

Demon Limb
is nice, but cost very expensive de repair without cube. With only 20 charges, you have to repair very often.
I only use it for Ubers.
Costs 0.5 trav runs with a horker barb ;)

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registered just to say, if you are not using CTA alt hand, you can use Obedience, kill a couple of monster and you get lvl 21
Enchant
, about 10minutes lol.
my bowazon goes up to 10k AR on multishot.
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fredkid 1877

Amazon Americas PC
That's what my Fury Druid does 🤗
MintBlancmanche wrote: 1 month ago
registered just to say, if you are not using CTA alt hand, you can use Obedience, kill a couple of monster and you get lvl 21
Enchant
, about 10minutes lol.
my bowazon goes up to 10k AR on multishot.

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
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BigD wrote: 1 month ago
Costs 0.5 trav runs with a horker barb ;)
A
Gold
find barb isn't a barb for me ^^

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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BigD 237

Paladin Americas Switch
Tornado_OLO wrote: 1 month ago
BigD wrote: 1 month ago
Costs 0.5 trav runs with a horker barb ;)
A
Gold
find barb isn't a barb for me ^^
Well, I guess it depends on what's cheaper and more convenient for you, that or having an Obedience to proc.

Even a
Frenzy
Barb with
Raven Frost
equipped who shatters alot of corpses can still make like 250k on 1 trav run with 1 point into
Find Item
though.

HCL nintendo switch
6276-3649-1595
Bnet: CoralViper#114373
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BigD wrote: 1 month ago
make like 250k on 1 trav run with 1 point into
Find Item
though.
I know but using hork breaks the sequence of fights. You slow down the rush/kill fun.
Chain the fights is in the DNA of D2. So doing hork too often is boring.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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fredkid 1877

Amazon Americas PC
I felt the same thing while playing my
Double Throw
Barbarian (feels like I spend more time horking than killing - and let me thinking that I could be doing a second run instead 🤔😛)
Tornado_OLO wrote: 1 month ago
BigD wrote: 1 month ago
make like 250k on 1 trav run with 1 point into
Find Item
though.
I know but using hork breaks the sequence of fights. You slow down the rush/kill fun.
Chain the fights is in the DNA of D2. So doing hork too often is boring.

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
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TheDoo 558

Europe PC
Tornado_OLO wrote: 1 month ago
BigD wrote: 1 month ago
make like 250k on 1 trav run with 1 point into
Find Item
though.
I know but using hork breaks the sequence of fights. You slow down the rush/kill fun.
Chain the fights is in the DNA of D2. So doing hork too often is boring.
Totally agree! Doing Trav runs where you meet same 10 enemies over and over and over again, in general, and then yelling at some corpses just to farm
Gold
wasn't and will never be my thing. Especially when you are doing this every day for hours (which I know some people do, I'm not saying BigD is one of them ofc)... After 2 days I would probably gouge my eyes out and pull all of my hair and leave D2 to rest for another 10 years or so xd

I'm also not saying it's the "wrong way to play the game" but from a different point of view, many things that are expensive to repair/recharge are just not the way to go for a casual player.

P.S. Zealer actually actives
Lava Gout
at a fairly fast rate even tho it's just 2% but it surely is meant more for something like Multishot/
Strafe
Zon than it is for something like a Smiter.

Ma neeeeeeema veeeeeeeze! xd

Someone much smarter than me already said once: "The real value of something doesn't reflect in a number of how much a seller can ask for it, but on how much a buyer is willing to pay."
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BigD 237

Paladin Americas Switch
Tornado_OLO wrote: 1 month ago
BigD wrote: 1 month ago
make like 250k on 1 trav run with 1 point into
Find Item
though.
I know but using hork breaks the sequence of fights. You slow down the rush/kill fun.
Chain the fights is in the DNA of D2. So doing hork too often is boring.
If you stop to hork every trash mob you come across yeah youre gonna be wasting alot of time, unless youre looking for a certain base item.

Kill all the council members and then hork em when youve laid them all out, or only the superunique youre killing.

Iunno. Thats just me.

HCL nintendo switch
6276-3649-1595
Bnet: CoralViper#114373
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