Frustration

Hello!

I am playing this game from the release at least 2 Hours daily. I tried farming everything (Andy,Countess,Summoner,Meph,Chaos,Nithalak,

Baal,Frigid,Pindle,etc...) Tried with different chars like sorc with mixed

Tal set, barb with hork (after 2.4), Ama for cows etc... Tried within a party (but loot ninjas always there),tried solo. But after hundreds of hour farming i still cant able to make an Enigma, All my values is a

Lo, an 2

Ohm and 2

Vex. This is not even enough for a

Ber.... I dont know what to do.. I realy love playing this game but my frustration grow day by day. The thing i see everybody find runes or valuable loot is also not help. I tried lowMF runs for bases but no luck, tried high MF for some uniq but nothing. Help me pls what should i do?

Thnaks!

I got nothing until i started killing the high council in

Travincal over and over again, there i found 2

Ber, 1

Ohm, 1

Lo and other lower runes, did this with a

Whirlwind barbarian first with double Oath, then Oath and Death, then Death and Breath of the Dying, upgrading as i got more runes. Of course i always used

Find Item after killing any uniques. For the merc, the most survivable for me is might desert with Obedience and

Guardian Angel armor and

Tal Rasha

Mask, once he is high level, that gives him enough resistances to survive the hydras.

Now im playing ladder and im poor again lol.

Farm UberKey. That is how you are sure to get closed to

Ber/

Jah.
You can sell 6 Hkey for 1

Ist or more.
Or Tkey, cheaper but you get

Ral/

Sol to sell to crafter.

i can understand the frustration i have been playing since the first hour and like many of you, i have spent countless hours so far trying to find items and runes in particular.

I can only recommend one thing and even if it sounds stupid, you just have to keep farming. I did a lot of

Travincal runs and found

Ber runes there,

The same goes for the flame river and towards

Chaos Sanctuary, i found

Ber runes there as well. That wasn't D2r but I don't think it's any different here.

So just keep farming, kill lots of enemies and then the day will come, runes are also not MF dependent as far as I know. You can also farm with 0% MF and find a

Ber rune from now on

just to share my personal experience, i made all my Wealth (many hrs, uniques, jewels, charms, high rolled magics) from 2 months farming

Travincal with Grief-brokenOH WW horker. Also before the patch. My advice would be to not give up and fast farm

Travincal

Same here, did like ~1600 High Council runs and got

Jah, 2

Sur, 2

Ohm and a couple of

Ist and

Mal (and a lot of other valuable stuff). Maybe on average it takes longer to get those runes, but just keep farming and one day you will get lucky

Trav is a great place to farm high runes. it's quick and easy. But supplement your farming with trading to speed up your rune farming (i.e. superior base items, keys, bundle of jewels, gems, etc...)

Don't want to sugar coat it...

Many folks don't ever find even

Jah or

Ber in an entire ladder season or reset. Majority of folks that find them early have truly magical RNG luck. While you might be frustrated or discouraged we are also only two weeks in to ladder. Now, if you are playing Non-Ladder, then sure you have infinite opportunity to discover, but that still doesn't generally change the timelines for drop rate changes and probability.

For example using LK Chest Runs:
- Player 1
-

Ber Rune probability drop calc is 1 in every 323,709 chances

- Player 8 (because runes are a function of PC not MF)
-

Ber run probability drop calc is 1 in every 125,380

General rule or best opportunities and chances for HR Drop areas

Areas

- Ghosts: Ghost/Specters (of any kind) have a higher probability and opportunity to drop HRs (think Arcanne Sanctuary)
- Bosses: Diablo,

Nihlathak,

Baal also all have increased probability chances
- Cow Runs: Generally good area to focus on
- Trav is always a key area to farm if you need any HR up to

Cham
- 85+ Areas when in doubt
- Hephasto (forge) is often overlooked and can drop up to

Zod

Chests

(type of rune you can get by Act in hell from even regular chests and enhanced by super chests)

- Act 1 Hell:

Gul /

Vex (r25-r26)
- Act 2 Hell:

Ohm /

Lo (r27-r28)
- Act 3 Hell:

Sur /

Ber (r29-r30)
- Act 4 Hell:

Jah /

Cham (r31-r32)
- Act 5 Hell:

Zod (r33)

Hopefully this helps friend - happy hunting - good luck and stay safe.

Th3ory

TO be exact i do not play ladder, i speaking of nonladder things. I also do Trav runs amongs the other things i mentioned above but no luck there either. Anyway thanks for the supportive advices I will not give up im not that type just helped me write down my frustration.

@Th3ory I did not know about

The Hellforge guy, thats new to me. Thanks

Denszecu wrote: 2 years ago

TO be exact i do not play ladder, i speaking of nonladder things. I also do Trav runs amongs the other things i mentioned above but no luck there either. Anyway thanks for the supportive advices I will not give up im not that type just helped me write down my frustration.

@Th3ory I did not know about

The Hellforge guy, thats new to me. Thanks

Patience is virtue as they say - stay the course!

Or my favorite saying Si Vis Pacum Parabellum - If you want Peace, prepare for warth3ory War

There are plenty of other Super Uniques and Bosses you can farm to get High Runes I just named the obvious ones in D/B/N.

A1:
-

Blood Raven can drop

Vex
-

Rakanishu can drop

Lo
-

Griswold can drop

Vex
-

Pitspawn Fouldog (Jail lvl 2) can drop

Ber
-

Bone Ash can drop

Ber

A2:
-

Radament can drop

Ber or

Sur (if I recall)
-

Dark Elder can drop

Ber
-

The Summoner can drop

Lo
-

Duriel can drop

Ber

A3:
- All major heavy hitters and new 85 areas plus Trav can drop up to

Cham

A4:
-

Izual can drop

Cham
-

Hephasto the Armorer can drop

Zod
- All seals in Chaos can drop up to

Cham
- Diablo can drop up to

Zod

A5:
- Pretty much all major super uniques and bosses can drop up to

Zod

Im pretty close to giving up this season already and wait until PD2 comes out with their new season. I went with a boring hero too (Bone Necro) because i got

Confuse and thought he could shoot 3

Bone Spear like in pd2. They really need to let you raise the player base. The streamers that find a lot of loot have a team that sets everything up for them so they find the better loot. PD2 is way more superior than D2R.

Sh1nakuma1 wrote: 2 years ago

Im pretty close to giving up this season already and wait until PD2 comes out with their new season. I went with a boring hero too (Bone Necro) because i got

Confuse and thought he could shoot 3

Bone Spear like in pd2. They really need to let you raise the player base. The streamers that find a lot of loot have a team that sets everything up for them so they find the better loot. PD2 is way more superior than D2R.

You are comparing Apples to Oranges. PD2 is a mod whereas D2R is what Diablo has always been now with the first patch in over 10 years and major QoL adjustments albeit some of them still need polishing.

As I like to say there is a place for Mods and there is a place for the Purist.

If you want to raise the player base then you play offline single player solo found vs. bnet.

The streamers you are also referencing are those heavy hitters in the infernal face and are the outliers not the norm. Plenty of people can farm, grind, partner, and find plenty of loot.

Purist? Then why did they add new content like rune words and skill synergies. That isnt purist. The trade chat on bnet is still broken and there is no channel to join

Baal or cow runs.

Sh1nakuma1 wrote: 2 years ago

Purist? Then why did they add new content like rune words and skill synergies. That isnt purist. The trade chat on bnet is still broken and there is no channel to join

Baal or cow runs.

This is getting off topic - but not sure what you are debating here. PD2 is a heavy Mod - D2R at its core is "relatively" purist. Purist being the foundational element of D2. They added elements after folks complained - and they barely touched RWs and amending skill synergies is about meta balancing including merc adjustments. Blizzard is and always will be under pressure to add to the same to keep folks happy and entertained.

No New Maps, No New Skills, No New Characters, No New or Heavily amended modified existing base gear items - D2R is closer to Purist than PD2. Simply put.

As I said previously - if you want a mod those exist go mod, if you want more of the base layer of the game then you play D2R or Classic LoD.

D2R has its flaws as I astutely called out "needs polishing".

It's not about the destination, it's about the journey. Once you have all the shinies, your motivation to play evaporates. There is no reason to play a loot based game when you have everything for all your characters.

Enjoy the journey and stop looking at the end point...

Don't get upset. I also don't play very much a day - usually an hour or two. We played with a friend together. Everything that we found valuable fell anytime and anywhere, but not when we went to a specific place to find something. For example, we were testing my new Bone necromancer in the cowshed, and the

Jah rune fell there. But when we specially cleaned the cowshed dozens of times for the sake of runes, we saw only the lowest ones)) The

Ber rune fell when I was just running aimlessly through the levels of

The Countess tower from a regular mob at level 2. We got two

Ber runes by selling the great amulet found I don't remember where. As a result, after 5 months of playing, we got a "riddle" for each of us. Something like that. Many things I haven't seen even once. I've never seen anything of value from

Baal, Diablo, the council in travincale, or any other boss in the game. I hope to see the fall of the griffin's eyes at least before the end of this year)))

Rasalom wrote: 2 years ago

It's not about the destination, it's about the journey. Once you have all the shinies, your motivation to play evaporates. There is no reason to play a loot based game when you have everything for all your characters.

Enjoy the journey and stop looking at the end point...

AMEN

I dont understand why

Travincal is so good... After 50 run with max item find barb only 1 time saw a rune drop...
:/ Maybe the next 50..

I used to share this frustration with the original D2. While I was young I felt like I played countless hours and never once did I even see anything higher than

Vex drop. I felt like I was dumping hours in but always had to find mediocre to trade up. Once D2:R released I jumped right into my same routine, I was running Andy, Meph and Pindle in every game with the occasional

Baal if I felt up for it. Again got a few decent drops from Meph like

Arachnid Mesh and a few

Harlequin Crest but never anything of real value. This was all within the first 2 weeks, Then by the end of the 3rd week I was making my Enigma.

I started playing a bit different that third week, While I did play probably 5-6 hours a day for that week... I started clearing champion packs on the way to EVERYTHING I did. I had never done this before, Just boss rush Tp'ing. All of a sudden,

Ber in catacombs,

Sur in

Stony Field on my way to grab a Leg for cows,

Lo in the Durance,

Jah in cows... I've since just stopped the "focused MF" stuff. It may work for some but it was just mind numbing I don't know why I stuck with it for so long. The game is much more enjoyable now and my magic find games consist of basically *every* zone you can think of on a "mf these areas list" [Stony Field, Countess, Andy (killing along the way), Ancient Tunnels, Arcane, *sometimes Duriel*, Durance + Mephisto, Chaos, *sometimes River of Flame*, pindle, Nihl and a full Worldstone 1-3 run] and I basically fully clear them of champions. I'm by no means crazy rich but it's netted me an Enigma and Infinity, some nice top-end gear and even a few

Jah/

Ber to spare in the stash.

Denszecu wrote: 2 years ago

I dont understand why

Travincal is so good... After 50 run with max item find barb only 1 time saw a rune drop...
:/ Maybe the next 50..

50 runs is not very much I took me 500 runs to get my first

Ohm rune from High Council. And I think this is still a good result. For exampIe I saw a Video on Youtube from a guy who shared his results of 6000 Trav runs. He claimed that he had a series of like 1500 runs without a rune drop equal or greater than

Mal ... so one really has to be patient and just enjoy the game (I love High Council <3). If you enjoy High Council, just do a couple of thousand runs, and you probably get some decent runes there. And sometimes it happens very fast: After no good rune drop for a few hundred runs, I got

Vex,

Jah,

Ist and

Sur within 70 runs. Best of luck!