Summon Druid Endgame Guide

You are not skilling your most damage summon skill at all with that build.
If you spent your points in

Raven and Spirit Wolves those

Raven alone would do roughly 10 times as much damage as your Shockwave.
You are missing roughly 15k dps from the

Raven alone.

Schnorki and me both have Summon Druids that by far exceed your Summon Druid in item quality and kill speed.
It's not even close.
You can see my current build and items here: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/mr0106fd#1

tmGrunty wrote: 2 years ago

You are not skilling your most damage summon skill at all with that build.
If you spent your points in

Raven and Spirit Wolves those

Raven alone would do roughly 10 times as much damage as your Shockwave.
You are missing roughly 15k dps from the

Raven alone.

Schnorki and me both have Summon Druids that by far exceed your Summon Druid in item quality and kill speed.
It's not even close.

But I am max damage my grizzly. with +5

Helm.
Summon damage only comes from grizzly.....

You aren't taking into consideration the AoE effect. Ravens are single target and honest I have +17 all skills. at 18 they are decent, and I use them every encounter

Shockwave Aoe is so large. It's DPS is far more valuable then Ravens.

Just try the fing build bro Jesus

I give up. You do you.

I just hope nobody tries to copy your build

In the amount of time it takes for 5 ravens to hit one enemy.....My shockwave just hit 12 enemies at 500 damage each. About 4 times in less time it takes for one

Raven to strike

I mean... I don't know what else to say except. Shockwave is completely viable post 2.4 end game. especially for farming.

Well, I will say this:
If I went for a full 20/20 hard on

Shock Wave and

Maul, it'd do about 6x the damage it does now. Which does take it to a point where it is situationally not bad IF everything can be lined up in a nice little cone (Shenk for example).

But frankly, even there, you're basically giving up 2 entire summon skills to make that happen. It just isn't worth it.


As for your summon damage argument:
Summons need to be skilled to get their base damage up. You're not doing that. Further, Spirit wolves add AR which buffs hit rate which = dmg. And even further, all of them are a direct synergy to ravens which are definitely worth it nowadays.


Either way, to each his own.

tmGrunty wrote: 2 years ago

I give up. You do you.

I just hope nobody tries to copy your build

I'm sorry bro but no offense....

seems like you didn't read the entirety of build post. Nor do you seem to comprehend AoE damage vs single target.

Fix that attention span bro.

Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago

As for your summon damage argument:
Summons need to be skilled to get their base damage up. You're not doing that. Further, Spirit wolves add AR which buffs hit rate which = dmg. And even further, all of them are a direct synergy to ravens which are definitely worth it nowadays.


Either way, to each his own.

Its not like I am giving up and not using a summon skill lol. I use them all.
Everytime all the time.

Every + to summon skills also increases the synergy of all other summon skills (confirmed)

My bear soloed Uber diablo with

Life Tap and

Decrepify.


I should also mention I use act 1 cold Merc with Harmony. The

Inner Sight skill she uses helps a lot with summons chance to hit. Yes

Vigor

I'm Vengeful_Spirit on USEast

If you see me watch and learn

SkyrateStorm wrote: 2 years ago

Summon Druids are tactical Summoners, unlike Necros which are passive. As a Summon Druid you should be recasting your pets (primarily Bear and on occasion Spirit Wolves) to engage monsters and keep them away from you. Monsters will generally stop if they have a target nearby, so use your pets to control the battle field. Bear moves slow and does the most damage, so you always want to cast him into the thick of battle. Dire Wolves get rage from eating corpses, so you want to not recast them if possible as this resets the rage. Spirit Wolves have cold damage so you can throw them into combat against phys immunes and move your bear elsewhere.

Unless you dont have an Egnima nor any

Teleport staffs or ammy, otherwise recasting your sommons will be a terrible idea.

You use

Teleport to target and position your opponents/summons, that's the only skill that should be on your right click.

Besides, you want to use Hota + Spirit to get the max skills while you are casting you summons and then switch to your Beast for the aura, recasting your bears will not be a good option with such setup.

JustinBarber wrote: 2 years ago

Unless you dont have an Egnima nor any

Teleport staffs or ammy, otherwise recasting your sommons will be a terrible idea.

You use

Teleport to target and position your opponents/summons, that's the only skill that should be on your right click.

Besides, you want to use Hota + Spirit to get the max skills while you are casting you summons and then switch to your Beast for the aura, recasting your bears will not be a good option with such setup.

... or if you don't want to tele into the middle of danger.
... or don't have the equivalent of 3 Bers...

Use HOTO+Spirit to summon/re-summon as needed, then swap for Beast

Fanaticism aura. Easy...

If you don't have Enigma it is probably better to safe the

Ber and not make a Beast and stick with Hoto.
Enigma should be the first high end item you make just because it is so damn useful and can be used on every char.

SkyrateStorm wrote: 2 years ago

JustinBarber wrote: 2 years ago

Unless you dont have an Egnima nor any

Teleport staffs or ammy, otherwise recasting your sommons will be a terrible idea.

You use

Teleport to target and position your opponents/summons, that's the only skill that should be on your right click.

Besides, you want to use Hota + Spirit to get the max skills while you are casting you summons and then switch to your Beast for the aura, recasting your bears will not be a good option with such setup.

... or if you don't want to tele into the middle of danger.
... or don't have the equivalent of 3 Bers...

Use HOTO+Spirit to summon/re-summon as needed, then swap for Beast

Fanaticism aura. Easy...

If you dont have an Egnima, you should consider playing other class instead.

Any summoner specs without the

Teleport skill basically is close to broken in this game.

Teleport is the most important skill for any summoner.

As I said, this build really wont need you to do anything else other than

Teleport, if you dont have a Beast, you can still use Spirit + Spirit as your main hand for the summon and then switch to a Naj Staff to use the

Teleport, which doesnt make any difference if you playing without a Beast.

Try it out and you will understand why

Teleport is so important.

So I just did Ubers online for the first time and it was messy.

I forgot to swap back my weapons for

Izual and

Duriel and was fighting without Fanatism.

In

Tristram itself

Mephisto got stuck in the house and I had to fight him in there while also dealing with

Baal at the same time.
After

Mephisto died I messed up the relocation again and therefore had to fight

Baal and Diablo at the same time.

Got them down in the end but it took way longer than it should have and I run through more potions.
My reward? A crappy 10/11 Ama Torch

But hey at least I can update my guide now and state from own experience that the char is definitely capable of doing them.

tmGrunty wrote: 2 years ago

So I just did Ubers online for the first time and it was messy.

I forgot to swap back my weapons for

Izual and

Duriel and was fighting without Fanatism.

In

Tristram itself

Mephisto got stuck in the house and I had to fight him in there while also dealing with

Baal at the same time.
After

Mephisto died I messed up the relocation again and therefore had to fight

Baal and Diablo at the same time.

Got them down in the end but it took way longer than it should have and I run through more potions.
My reward? A crappy 10/11 Ama Torch

But hey at least I can update my guide now and state from own experience that the char is definitely capable of doing them.

Indeed he is.

Though making it that messy is just unnecessary.

summon druid guide. posted on youtube to day by Xtimus.

Spoiler

I don't like that guide at all.
Stop using melee gear for Summon Druid. Seriously! Summon Druid is a Caster.
Also Act 2 merc >> Act 5 merc.

Btw Schnorki I'm mad at you.
You randomly joined a game I was in today and didn't say "hi" back

tmGrunty wrote: 2 years ago

I will watch that video later .

Btw Schnorki I'm mad at you.
You randomly joined a game I was in today and didn't say "hi" back

Wut?! When where what how and whatever other question words?

Chat bug? Noone said hi to me!
I think..

Unless you were that sorceress(i think?) while I was chasing down the last DClones in which case I was too busy to chat and do apologize!

No it was in a Trading game.
Don't remember the exact name but it was something with

Terror and Hate keys.
I was in there with my Druid. Might have been chat bug though.

Oh yeah, I remember that game actually ("o terr n hate"). That was during the clone hunt.

tmGrunty wrote: 2 years ago

So I just did Ubers online for the first time and it was messy.
...
But hey at least I can update my guide now and state from own experience that the char is definitely capable of doing them.

Nice! I hadn't considered trying Ubers with it yet. Could you post a link to your guide?