Budget ubers

Hello all,

I recently took 3x3 keys and killed all those minibosses but am worried my summoner won't have the damage for the Ubers themselves. What is a budget build that could take ubers down? I want to be able to get my own torches

Hey there. Do you need help killing Uber Tristram? If you do add me and I'll help you out for free. Don't want your keys to go to waste. As for a summoner build for Ubers, I have little knowledge in that matter. But if you need help for now add me

I run ubers with my summoner and it's definitely not the easiest feat in the world. Some form of Teleport is an absolute must in order to Concentrate your army. I haven't had to call for help yet but I've been close once or twice when I wasn't able to get clean pulls and had to do several re-stocks on my summons.

Xanhast wrote: 4 years ago

Hey there. Do you need help killing Uber Tristram? If you do add me and I'll help you out for free. Don't want your keys to go to waste. As for a summoner build for Ubers, I have little knowledge in that matter. But if you need help for now add me

Hi Xan,

I appreciate the offer, but I am hoping to clear it on my own. I have the three bits but didn't open trist yet since i was worried about being able to beat it. And i didn't necessarily mean summoner builds, i figured i would probably end up making a designated char for Uber Trist, but was wondering what i could build on my limited budget (i have terrible luck with runes, the highest that has ever dropped for me was Vex lol)

If it doesn't look too feasible, though, i may just take you up on your offer

If you're interested I could just stand in town and only help if you need it. That way you can try it out and see if your build can solo it. If it doesn't work I can get your body. It would make it slightly more difficult with increased players count.

Summoners are generally able to run ubers once they're geared enough. If you want to see if you can without risk, just make sure someone who can bail you out is online and ready to help (I can offer my services for that - free of Charge of course). So even if it does go wrong, you don't lose your torch over it. Just keep your helper out of the game while he's not needed as him being in-game will make it significantly harder for you since your Revive's crushing won't be nearly as effective.

If it works out, great, you don't need any other char just for that.
If it just baaarely doesn't work out, you probably just need a little more gear.
And if it doesn't work out and you do use the waiting helper, then at least you know you really do need something else at which point a smiter is the easiest thing to get going for ubers on a budget.

Seamus McNugget wrote: 4 years ago

Xanhast wrote: 4 years ago

Hey there. Do you need help killing Uber Tristram? If you do add me and I'll help you out for free. Don't want your keys to go to waste. As for a summoner build for Ubers, I have little knowledge in that matter. But if you need help for now add me

Hi Xan,

I appreciate the offer, but I am hoping to clear it on my own. I have the three bits but didn't open trist yet since i was worried about being able to beat it. And i didn't necessarily mean summoner builds, i figured i would probably end up making a designated char for Uber Trist, but was wondering what i could build on my limited budget (i have terrible luck with runes, the highest that has ever dropped for me was Vex lol)

If it doesn't look too feasible, though, i may just take you up on your offer

All good! For a Uber specialized character on a budget would be, in my opinion, the budget smiter/poor man's smiter paladin. You can definitely build one up with a Vex rune and even much much less. There are other builds like the Zeal Sorceress (expensive) and Fury Druid (you can build one budget but it can be a little sketchy on the ubers). I'm sure there are a few others but for the best return on investment I would say smiter. Hope that answers your question.

Cool, i am not familiar with that. what items do i need and what should i skill to get it done?

I have also heard good things about kicksins, are they tough to build?

Seamus McNugget wrote: 4 years ago

Hello all,

I recently took 3x3 keys and killed all those minibosses but am worried my summoner won't have the damage for the Ubers themselves. What is a budget build that could take ubers down? I want to be able to get my own torches

Hi Seamus, I'm in the process to make a try like yours... can you share more info about your summoner build?

For the smitter it is pretty simple and very cheap. most expensive gear is probably the Dracul's Grasp that cost a Pull.

weapon: Black runeword (cheaper), or better Heaven's Light with 3 skills and 2 sockets with Shael.
head: guillaume face with ias/res jewel,
shield: a 4os Targe with 30 res and 4 Perfect Diamond (cheaper) or a cheap Herald Of Zakarum (better),
gloves: Dracul's Grasp,
shoes: Goblin Toe, or Gore Rider
Belt: Thundergod's Vigor,
rings: Raven Frost, Dwarf Star.
Amu : cat's eye, highlord or mara depending on what you have and your budget.
weapon switch: Life Tap Wand bought from merchant and or Call To Arms + Spirit
armor: one Treachery to proc in flames before going and one Guardian Angel.
charms: all the res and life you can find

For skills you need 20 in Smite ( though 1 point is enough), 20 in holly shield, 20 in Defiance (optional but improves Holy Shield), and 20 in Fanaticism. Any additional points can go to Ifre/ cold resis as every 2 skills will passively grant you +1 max resist to that element.

You get in Uber Tristram with Treachery, go in the flame, proc it, go back to town to heal and switch to Guardian Angel.
Go back to Tristram, buff cta if you have it, switch to Life Tap Wand.
Move slithgly south, agro mephi move a bit north and Life Tap him. switch back to Smite/ Fanaticism and Smite him to Death.
Refuel pots if needed then proceed south to deal with diablo and Baal if possible one at a time.
make sure to save game name and password in case you die so that you can leave and come back easily if you need several attempts.

I do not even have a dedicated smitter, just a hammerdin with 1 point in Smite and 1 in Fanaticism and it is still really easy, but with a better gear by now (only differences are Grief for weapon and Exile for the shield with mara and cta). Only case i fail is when i try to fight them all at the same time.

Seamus McNugget wrote: 4 years ago

I have also heard good things about kicksins, are they tough to build?

Kicksins are strong against ubers but not as budget friendly as smiters.
I like this guide: https://d2.maxroll.gg/guides/dragon-talon-assassin

OrcozZio wrote: 4 years ago

Seamus McNugget wrote: 4 years ago

Hello all,

I recently took 3x3 keys and killed all those minibosses but am worried my summoner won't have the damage for the Ubers themselves. What is a budget build that could take ubers down? I want to be able to get my own torches

Hi Seamus, I'm in the process to make a try like yours... can you share more info about your summoner build?

Certainly. It isn't really a pure summoner build but that is the easiest way to describe it and how i generally think of it. I max skellies, skelleton mastery, and one point in the whole tree to Summon Resist. one point in the curse tree to Decrepify and i maxed Bone Spear and Teeth. the rest of the points in skellie mages cause i like them, not cause they are good lol. i never liked the Revive spell. i know it is good, but i don't enjoy the playstyle of it.

I have Chance Guards, Goldwrap (upped for Belt slots), Boneshade (+3 Spear, +5 Teeth), Spirit, the Bone runeword, yellow Boots, a Circlet with +2 necro skills, a yellow amulet, and two naglerings (26 and 28 MF). I also traded for a torch for him, have one skiller, and a bunch of res and magic find charms.

I use the skellies and Clay Golem to tank, curse with decripify or Amplify Damage as the situation warrants, and kill with bonespear. I was in almost no risk of dying against the minibosses, but damage was a bit lacking and took forever (and several minon refills) to kill Lillith

Frac127 wrote: 4 years ago

For the smitter it is pretty simple and very cheap. most expensive gear is probably the Dracul's Grasp that cost a Pull.

weapon: Black runeword (cheaper), or better Heaven's Light with 3 skills and 2 sockets with Shael.
head: guillaume face with ias/res jewel,
shield: a 4os Targe with 30 res and 4 Perfect Diamond (cheaper) or a cheap Herald Of Zakarum (better),
gloves: Dracul's Grasp,
shoes: Goblin Toe, or Gore Rider
Belt: Thundergod's Vigor,
rings: Raven Frost, Dwarf Star. Amu : cat's eye, highlord or mara depending on what you have and your budget.
weapon switch: Life Tap Wand bought from merchant and or Call To Arms + Spirit
armor: one Treachery to proc in flames before going and one Guardian Angel.
charms: all the res and life you can find

For skills you need 20 in Smite ( though 1 point is enough), 20 in holly shield, 20 in Defiance (optional but improves Holy Shield), and 20 in Fanaticism.

you get in Uber Tristram with Treachery, go in the flame, proc it, go back to town to heal and switch to Guardian Angel.
go back to Tristram, buff cta if you have it, switch to Life Tap Wand.
move slithgly south, agro mephi move a bit north and laife tap him. switch back to Smite/fanatism and Smite him to Death.
refuel pots if needed then proceed south to deal with diablo and ball if possible one at a time.
make sure to save game name and password in case you die so that you can leave and come back easily if you need several attempts.

I do not even have a dedicated smitter, just a hammerdin with 1 point in Smite and 1 in Fanaticism and it is still really easy, but with a better gear by now (only differences are Grief for weapon and Exile for the shield with mara and cta). Only case i fail is when i try to fight them all at the same time.

I actually already have a lot of that gear. Why Thundergod's Vigor on the Belt instead of verdungo or something with res? just the lightning absorb? (honestly asking to learn, not being a smartass)

Yes the + light res and lightning absorb is more important for meph. Some people switch it for verdungo or String of Ears to fight Diablo and Baal but i find it is useless. But if you already have them just go with it and try it should not make a huge difference.

I also forgot to say that if you have a dedicated smitter, you can drop some skills in cold or fire resist aura as every 2 skills passively grant to +1 max resist to those element.

To add to the posts above: Lightning res (or absorb, I suppose) is extremely important because Meph takes down your resistance by A LOT, and his lightning attacks are brutal. (Got one-shot by them often enough, before I started stacking the res).

Once Meph is down, Diablo/ Baal usually go down easy, because you have your resistance back up, and they don't do that much other than summoning minions.

They're much easier than Lilith. (though if you did Lilith on a summoner you might not know how hard she hits hah; She hits like a truck).

Yes, the only trick is not to get stuck by the minions or in a Bone cage. and it can get a bit hard to target diablo and Baal because of the crowd. Meph lowers your res by 125%.

I found a neat site that lets you fiddle with builds. I statted this out, do you think it would be enough? (I have most of this, but still need to buy the Flail and the gloves)

https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/dr01067g

mishabg wrote: 4 years ago

To add to the posts above: Lightning res (or absorb, I suppose) is extremely important because Meph takes down your resistance by A LOT, and his lightning attacks are brutal. (Got one-shot by them often enough, before I started stacking the res).

Once Meph is down, Diablo/ Baal usually go down easy, because you have your resistance back up, and they don't do that much other than summoning minions.

They're much easier than Lilith. (though if you did Lilith on a summoner you might not know how hard she hits hah; She hits like a truck).

Really? I would have thought ubers would be harder than Lillith. She hit hard (chewed through my minions) but do you think i could probably take her with my build as is?

Seamus McNugget wrote: 4 years ago

Really? I would have thought ubers would be harder than Lillith. She hit hard (chewed through my minions) but do you think i could probably take her with my build as is?

Meph is harder, but the other two are easy. Meph > Lilith >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Izual > Duriel > Baal > Diablo is how I'd rank them.

I'm not sure about your build, but my paladin (decently geared) needs to make sure to life steal between all her attacks, because if she highroll her hits she can two shot me.

Always make sure to carry rejuv pots for this fight, helps a lot. Oh, and never fight her when you have Amplify Damage (her minions cast it all the time), can turn her two-shots into one-shots!