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I came back to D2 after 20 years.
Back then I had no high runes, etc.
I have been playing on the softcore ladder for the past few weeks, and I was able to collect
1
Jah

2
Ber

with some couple
Vex
/
Ist
/
Mal
.
Now that I can make Enigma or Infinity, what should I do?
What to invest in? Maybe something different?
I have paladin, javazon and sorc.
I am not interested in Mosaic Assassin. I've seen it, and it seems way too broken. After trying it, I would probably not want to play other characters.
I have Enigma base, also
Eth
4soc
Mancatcher
and 4soc
Eth
Scythe
.
If I choose Enigma, I don't know what character to use.
I have decent geared javazon, but she doesn't really feel powerful.
At first I was set to have self-wielding Infinity
Nova
sorc but now I am not sure...
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I came back to D2 after 20 years.
Back then I had no high runes, etc.
I have been playing on the softcore ladder for the past few weeks, and I was able to collect
1
Jah

2
Ber

with some couple
Vex
/
Ist
/
Mal
.
Now that I can make Enigma or Infinity, what should I do?
What to invest in? Maybe something different?
I have paladin, javazon and sorc.
I am not interested in Mosaic Assassin. I've seen it, and it seems way too broken. After trying it, I would probably not want to play other characters.
I have Enigma base, also
Eth
4soc
Mancatcher
and 4soc
Eth
Scythe
.
If I choose Enigma, I don't know what character to use.
I have decent geared javazon, but she doesn't really feel powerful.
At first I was set to have self-wielding Infinity
Nova
sorc but now I am not sure...
7
I really like my self wield Infinity
Nova
Sorc. Mine was a little squishy at first but once I get her leveled into the 90s she really flys and can do everything fast minus ubers I have not tried but she melts Dclones.

LF
Perfect Gems
, perfect amethysts,
Hel
, Keys: For best offers
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Enigma is probably the most universal choise, as it removes the disadvantage of not having
Teleport
. You can simply keep it in shared stash for all your characters to use.

But it really is up to your preference - maybe you are not interested in endless boss-grinding, then you can live without access to
Teleport
I guess...

Anyway, sorceress can be viable even without Infinity, so I would advice against spending almost all your runes on it.
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I don't know what
Helm
your Javazon is using, but if you don't want to spend a HR on a
Griffon's Eye
, then Wisdom is a phrnominal budget option.
The +33%
Pierce
removes the need for
Razortail
and allows the damage and survivability boost of
Thundergod's Vigor
. Ravenfrost can be replaced with a SOJ due to Wisdom's Cannot Be Frozen Mod. The +5 To Mana After Each Kill and the +4-8% Mana Leech helps mitigate the mana hungry nature of a Javazon who might not have a Phoenix shield yet.

I'm willing to accept other forms of currency. Like Tokens, Keys,
Perfect Gems
, and certain minor runes in lieu of my asking price. I'm also willing to accept rune combinations that add up to my asking price.
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OP
KillingestGOLDENAK47 wrote: 6 months ago
I really like my self wield Infinity
Nova
Sorc. Mine was a little squishy at first but once I get her leveled into the 90s she really flys and can do everything fast minus ubers I have not tried but she melts Dclones.
This is what I was thinking. But
Nova
sorc only with Infinity will be viable? I don't have a Griffons.
Nekeyby wrote: 6 months ago
Enigma is probably the most universal choise, as it removes the disadvantage of not having
Teleport
. You can simply keep it in shared stash for all your characters to use.

But it really is up to your preference - maybe you are not interested in endless boss-grinding, then you can live without access to
Teleport
I guess...

Anyway, sorceress can be viable even without Infinity, so I would advice against spending almost all your runes on it.
I play blizzard and honestly I am little bored with it.
But the problem is there is that I don't really have a worthy character to put Enigma on.

Knappogue wrote: 6 months ago
I don't know what
Helm
your Javazon is using, but if you don't want to spend a HR on a
Griffon's Eye
, then Wisdom is a phrnominal budget option.
The +33%
Pierce
removes the need for
Razortail
and allows the damage and survivability boost of
Thundergod's Vigor
. Ravenfrost can be replaced with a SOJ due to Wisdom's Cannot Be Frozen Mod. The +5 To Mana After Each Kill and the +4-8% Mana Leech helps mitigate the mana hungry nature of a Javazon who might not have a Phoenix shield yet.
So currently my javazon has:
Valkyrie Wing

192ED titans non-upgraded
Ormus
robes
Spirit shield
+amazon skills amulet
+2 skill 20ias gloves
Raven Frost

thundergods (also tested with
Razortail
but thunder felt better somehow)
torch
ani

And it felt meh, even cows P1.
I don't have any skilled charms, etc.
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What type of paladin do you have? If he is a hammerdin, Enigma is amazing for him.

I'm willing to accept other forms of currency. Like Tokens, Keys,
Perfect Gems
, and certain minor runes in lieu of my asking price. I'm also willing to accept rune combinations that add up to my asking price.
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My
Nova
sorc did not start out as a
Nova
sorc she was a MF
Chain Lightning
sorc for a few months. She wore
Tal
armor MF set up and she was only a little bit slower than my
Nova
sorc is now but with way more MF perhaps you should try an old school light sorc build and farm a Griffons.

LF
Perfect Gems
, perfect amethysts,
Hel
, Keys: For best offers
7
OP
Knappogue wrote: 6 months ago
What type of paladin do you have? If he is a hammerdin, Enigma is amazing for him.
I have smiter/foh build from GGM.
I had hammer paladin 20 years ago and aoe of this ability is annoying.
KillingestGOLDENAK47 wrote: 6 months ago
My
Nova
sorc did not start out as a
Nova
sorc she was a MF
Chain Lightning
sorc for a few months. She wore
Tal
armor MF set up and she was only a little bit slower than my
Nova
sorc is now but with way more MF perhaps you should try an old school light sorc build and farm a Griffons.
I sold unidentified griffon for 2
Ber
runes just like few hours ago. xD
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User avatar

uuee 265

Europe PC
Well, hammerdin is by far the cheapest end game build to make, so if you would like to be efficient, that is the way to go (easy res, even with mediocre items -like a random mara, random ~40res base Spirit, random hoto, random cta -since you've got so many +all skills, even a low one works fine...).
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It's really hard to make HR spending recommendations (aka build recommendations) without knowing preferred play style.
However you pretty much won't go wrong with making an Enigma or Infinity in an
Eth
elite base. Enigma can be used for so many different builds. Its just that good and versatile.
Eth
elite Infinity is also very versatile. Your merc, for pretty much any elemental build, can use it and you can self wield it with a lightning sorc.
With the runes you have though, my vote is Enigma. It makes so many non-viable builds now viable. And many others mediocre builds can be meta with an Enigma.
Just my two cents.

I'm willing to accept other forms of currency. Like Tokens, Keys,
Perfect Gems
, and certain minor runes in lieu of my asking price. I'm also willing to accept rune combinations that add up to my asking price.
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User avatar

mhlg 2374

Americas PC
You should first decide which build you're going to spend the most time playing. Then you can prioritize and use your runes where they will get the most use, and then you can use that build to provide for future builds.
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User avatar

oOKIWIOo 1322

Paladin Europe PC
Most relevant things are already said. However, if you plan making a selfwielding Infinity for your Sorc I would recommend a non-
Eth
base. As long as you are not hitting something you are fine of course with an
Eth
base. But for "safety reasons" I would still be hesitant putting two
Ber
in an
Eth
base which can at least potentially "crack" 😉

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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pokyfudywise wrote: 6 months ago
KillingestGOLDENAK47 wrote: 6 months ago
I really like my self wield Infinity
Nova
Sorc. Mine was a little squishy at first but once I get her leveled into the 90s she really flys and can do everything fast minus ubers I have not tried but she melts Dclones.
This is what I was thinking. But
Nova
sorc only with Infinity will be viable? I don't have a Griffons.
Nekeyby wrote: 6 months ago
Enigma is probably the most universal choise, as it removes the disadvantage of not having
Teleport
. You can simply keep it in shared stash for all your characters to use.

But it really is up to your preference - maybe you are not interested in endless boss-grinding, then you can live without access to
Teleport
I guess...

Anyway, sorceress can be viable even without Infinity, so I would advice against spending almost all your runes on it.
I play blizzard and honestly I am little bored with it.
But the problem is there is that I don't really have a worthy character to put Enigma on.

Knappogue wrote: 6 months ago
I don't know what
Helm
your Javazon is using, but if you don't want to spend a HR on a
Griffon's Eye
, then Wisdom is a phrnominal budget option.
The +33%
Pierce
removes the need for
Razortail
and allows the damage and survivability boost of
Thundergod's Vigor
. Ravenfrost can be replaced with a SOJ due to Wisdom's Cannot Be Frozen Mod. The +5 To Mana After Each Kill and the +4-8% Mana Leech helps mitigate the mana hungry nature of a Javazon who might not have a Phoenix shield yet.
So currently my javazon has:
Valkyrie Wing

192ED titans non-upgraded
Ormus
robes
Spirit shield
+amazon skills amulet
+2 skill 20ias gloves
Raven Frost

thundergods (also tested with
Razortail
but thunder felt better somehow)
torch
ani

And it felt meh, even cows P1.
I don't have any skilled charms, etc.
Javazon is absolutely crack, but you need to be well geared

1. Infinity for merc (must have)
2. Enigma
3. Griffon
4. (Most controversial) Phoenix instead of Spirit

End of course sunder charm
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User avatar

fredkid 1877

Amazon Americas PC
Best upgrade I made for my Javazon 🤗
Szambodiver wrote: 6 months ago
4. (Most controversial) Phoenix instead of Spirit

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
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My vote goes to Enigma on your javazon. Then you can farm anything anywhere in the game.
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OP
Szambodiver wrote: 6 months ago
pokyfudywise wrote: 6 months ago
KillingestGOLDENAK47 wrote: 6 months ago
I really like my self wield Infinity
Nova
Sorc. Mine was a little squishy at first but once I get her leveled into the 90s she really flys and can do everything fast minus ubers I have not tried but she melts Dclones.
This is what I was thinking. But
Nova
sorc only with Infinity will be viable? I don't have a Griffons.
Nekeyby wrote: 6 months ago
Enigma is probably the most universal choise, as it removes the disadvantage of not having
Teleport
. You can simply keep it in shared stash for all your characters to use.

But it really is up to your preference - maybe you are not interested in endless boss-grinding, then you can live without access to
Teleport
I guess...

Anyway, sorceress can be viable even without Infinity, so I would advice against spending almost all your runes on it.
I play blizzard and honestly I am little bored with it.
But the problem is there is that I don't really have a worthy character to put Enigma on.

Knappogue wrote: 6 months ago
I don't know what
Helm
your Javazon is using, but if you don't want to spend a HR on a
Griffon's Eye
, then Wisdom is a phrnominal budget option.
The +33%
Pierce
removes the need for
Razortail
and allows the damage and survivability boost of
Thundergod's Vigor
. Ravenfrost can be replaced with a SOJ due to Wisdom's Cannot Be Frozen Mod. The +5 To Mana After Each Kill and the +4-8% Mana Leech helps mitigate the mana hungry nature of a Javazon who might not have a Phoenix shield yet.
So currently my javazon has:
Valkyrie Wing

192ED titans non-upgraded
Ormus
robes
Spirit shield
+amazon skills amulet
+2 skill 20ias gloves
Raven Frost

thundergods (also tested with
Razortail
but thunder felt better somehow)
torch
ani

And it felt meh, even cows P1.
I don't have any skilled charms, etc.
Javazon is absolutely crack, but you need to be well geared

1. Infinity for merc (must have)
2. Enigma
3. Griffon
4. (Most controversial) Phoenix instead of Spirit

End of course sunder charm
Javazon seems to be one of most expensive chars to gear. :(
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pokyfudywise wrote: 6 months ago
Javazon seems to be one of most expensive chars to gear. :(
Many others chars are more expensive but javazon is expensive, yes.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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Tornado_OLO wrote: 6 months ago
pokyfudywise wrote: 6 months ago
Javazon seems to be one of most expensive chars to gear. :(
fredkid wrote: 6 months ago
Best upgrade I made for my Javazon 🤗
Szambodiver wrote: 6 months ago
4. (Most controversial) Phoenix instead of Spirit
Many others chars are more expensive but javazon is expensive, yes.
At least 6 ml and an ethereal titan will greatly reduce that need.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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Tornado_OLO wrote: 6 months ago
pokyfudywise wrote: 6 months ago
Javazon seems to be one of most expensive chars to gear. :(
Many others chars are more expensive but javazon is expensive, yes.
But it's worth:)
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OP
I made an Enigma in perf
Mage Plate
but of course it rolled 752 on defense - just my luck. xD
This is why I sold Griffons instead of identifying it.
I have the worst luck in games.
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