Ladder Season 15 and Patch 3.3

departure wrote: 1 hour ago

Schnorki wrote: 1 hour ago

Hard disagree.

As is, my side-show Heph (i.e. not even a demon build) can just about 1-shot TZ96

Andariel. That's beyond broken and needs fixing. Or nerfing. Or whatever you'd like to call it.

P1?

I haven't found a bound demon that is as good at taking down Andy as max

Tainted. At the moment I spend a fair amount of time killing andy on p7 with tainteds. If the concern is how fast a summon can kill andy, bound demon nerfs do not address that as far as I can tell.

P1 minimum. Haven't paid attention to what the max player count is where he still does it.
But even on P1, that should never happen and is just broken.

Certain other aspects of warlocks still also being completely broken doesn't make bind being broken any better. Sure, ideally, they should adjust all of those pieces but I'd still rather see one or two overdue fixes/adjustments than none. Baby steps and whatnot.

Schnorki wrote: 1 hour ago

Certain other aspects of warlocks still also being completely broken doesn't make bind being broken any better. Sure, ideally, they should adjust all of those pieces but I'd still rather see one or two overdue fixes/adjustments than none. Baby steps and whatnot.

Warlock is OP all over the place for sure. So if you don't like how strong your demon is, I do understand. But tainteds will wreck her faster, and you don't even have to invest lots of points and go find a demon... you just summon some tainteds.

Tainteds are actually faster for all boss kills than BD. The difference is that tainteds are actually intended to be that OP, and Bound Demon wasn't. That's the only difference. One is actually a bug and the other is not.

But... BD was such a cool bug. I'll probably end up playing tainteds with a defiler or something overall, but I think something has been lost in that. Chasing down a lancer and playing like it's HC to keep her alive... and being careful about not spamming BB... it was a very interesting dynamic.