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i believe bnet won't launch when vpn is on
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ShadowHeart 6711Moderator

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ganseng wrote: 1 week ago
i believe bnet won't launch when vpn is on
That can't be correct.

Chinese players were playing on the Asia servers before the Chinese version of D2R even existed, and non-Chinese BNet servers were and still are blocked in mainland China (without VPN). Only the official Chinese servers (which only exists since about 1 year ago) can be reached from mainland China without VPN, from what I've heard.

Also, not too long ago (1-2 years ago) there were reports of Korean players having their accounts banned for being created using VPN (apparently some Koreans used VPN to create "overseas" accounts, not sure which country they based the accounts in though). FBI (the Korean D2R streamer) even made a dedicated video about it to alert his viewers that "overseas" accounts created using VPN were being banned by Blizzard.

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ShadowHeart wrote: 1 week ago
Also, not too long ago (1-2 years ago) there were reports of Korean players having their accounts banned for being created using VPN (apparently some Koreans used VPN to create "overseas" accounts, not sure which country they based the accounts in though). FBI (the Korean D2R streamer) even made a dedicated video about it to alert his viewers that "overseas" accounts created using VPN were being banned by Blizzard.
This sounds like it was about paying less for the game, by accessing another market. So it would be more a ToS/EULA thing than a Code of Conduct thing.

The response from Blizzard that OP cites explicitly mentions the Code of Conduct, which is a fairly short document that is focused on how one's actions affect other players' experience. Although the Blizzard guy's response could have been a standard one where they didn't bother changing details appropriately, so we can't know for sure without more info from Blizzard.

Either way, I'm sorry on OP's behalf. Hopefully we will at least find out what was behind the ban.

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Big Oddy wrote: 1 week ago
Came home after a short holiday last week to find my account banned.
You checked if your credentials got leaked and maybe used during the time of your absence for botting?

Back in the old days, when i still used crappy OS like Windows, i had a similar accident with WoW: I returned from holiday to find my account locked and banned and an Email in my inbox telling me, that my account "has been corrupted". Blizz then restored my account and even gave me a compensation for some of the Gold stolen. The difference here is, that WoW is a monthly paid game where Blizz has vital interest in keeping me as a customer while d2r, they don't care about you as you already paid for the game.

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vued wrote: 1 week ago
Big Oddy wrote: 1 week ago
Thanks for the reply. Per your observations...
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Nothing in character names either. A level 95 Amazon, and two mules. That's it.


If you really haven't done any of that but Blizzard believes so and doesn't provide any other options, going to court will be the only option left.

There they will have to prove to the judge that you breached the code of conduct. Probably not worth it....
With modern AI's at our disposal available for free it shouldn't be too difficult to open a civil case against Blizzard as Pro Se, no representing attorneys at law necessary to waste big $$$ for. You'd learn a lot along the way on procedures involved, that maybe useful in the future. @"Big Oddy", before you dig in, however, make sure your account has not been hacked. It may not be possible without Blizzard's logs to tell for sure, so a court claim it is.
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vued wrote: 1 week ago
If you really haven't done any of that but Blizzard believes so and doesn't provide any other options, going to court will be the only option left.

There they will have to prove to the judge that you breached the code of conduct. Probably not worth it....
bigbikefan wrote: 1 week ago
With modern AI's at our disposal available for free it shouldn't be too difficult to open a civil case against Blizzard as Par Se, no representing attorneys at law necessary to waste big $$$ for. You'd learn a lot along the way on procedures involved, that maybe useful in the future. @"Big Oddy", before you dig in, however, make sure your account has not been hacked. It may not be possible without Blizzard's logs to tell for sure, so a court claim it is.
I'm skeptical that this will work, there is always a lot of legalese in games' EULAs that basically beams down to "you promise not to sue us". But AI can probably help condensate what the EULA actually says about this. There are also customer protection laws in different countries that limit what an EULA can imply.
Blubbalutsch wrote: 1 week ago
You checked if your credentials got leaked and maybe used during the time of your absence for botting?
This is something that is reasonable to expect Blizzard to help investigate. You can always ask them for logs of your time in game, and match to when you know you were or were not playing. And then it might turn out easier for them to provide some more info about the circumstances of your ban, giving you a better position to argue your case.

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I have something that comes to mind reading this story. I know some people are using Claude as an AI assist to read their computer. That could have been unintentional but do you use an IA like that while you were playing to D2R? That could maybe have triggered a ''third party'' program?
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OP
Morning all, a quick update... had been slowly writing a reply to Blizzard re this ridiculous saga when out of the blue last night I receive this, and I quote...

"Blizzard recently closed a Diablo II: Resurrected game account on this Battle.net Account as part of our ongoing effort to combat exploitation and abusive behavior.

We've taken an additional review of the evidence considered in this action and found this closure was an error. We are reopening this account for play, and hope you will accept our sincere apologies for the mistake."

All I can say is a) at least I'm back and about damn time, and b) this shouldn't have happened in the first place. The immediate response to my ban from Blizzard was unhelpful and their reasoning was not forthcoming, nor obviously double checked.

Just want to say thanks to all for your input, and be aware that this could happen to anyone.
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This aligns with what I’ve heard from other players that were banned and then unbanned, but also not - some I’ve heard of got it unbanned without needing to do anything, some needed to contact Blizzard to get it unbanned. But you did contact them, got an unhelpful response saying that the ban will be upheld, only for it be overturned later without any contact in between. That’s a new one (to me). And it’s totally unacceptable. The people managing this at Blizzard seem to be extremely incompetent. How is it possible to determine upon first review that the ban was correct and be so sure about it, and then subsequently change their minds with an “Oopsie!”. The level of incompetence at display here is appalling.

Anyway, I’m glad you got your account back!

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Big Oddy wrote: 12 hours ago
Morning all, a quick update...
realy realy disturbing.
They are aware that stories like that get spread around, aren't they...

Glad that your are back on track

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ShadowHeart wrote: 7 hours ago
The people managing this at Blizzard seem to be extremely incompetent.
or just not the same person. First one didn't bother to have a look. Second unbanned a bunch of players and OP was one of them.

Being in France I can tell you never have the same answer to the same question if you ask twice (being private or public company)
Last in date: on the site it says I have to *CALL* someone because you cant do it on the website yourself, so called them to be told they cant do it either (2 days ago)

welcome back anyway!

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klmklm27 wrote: 3 hours ago
ShadowHeart wrote: 7 hours ago
The people managing this at Blizzard seem to be extremely incompetent.
or just not the same person. First one didn't bother to have a look. Second unbanned a bunch of players and OP was one of them.
That's a bold assumption that the first one was even a person, in the age of widespread chatbots...
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Trang Oul wrote: 1 hour ago
That's a bold assumption that the first one was even a person, in the age of widespread chatbots...
can't tell if you are not one of them :D

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Well, I think it's pretty clear that the initial bans are handled in a completely automated fashion, possibly (likely?) powered by "AI" agents. And the initial response to appeals might also be handled by "AI" (no idea), or at least the person handling it uses "AI" to assist with determining whether to overturn or uphold the ban (very likely?).

Regardless, the whole process and the fact that there has been so many similar stories of wrongful bans since RoTW (these stories were exceedingly rare before RoTW) just reeks of incompetence. Whether the "AI" is incompetent, or the person using the "AI" is, doesn't actually matter. What matters is the outward perception (to the person being wrongfully banned and having to deal with the aftermath), and if one thing is certain, this will just further hurt Blizzard's reputation. It's not a great tactic for a company to wrongfully punish its own customers for no reason other than that an "AI" hallucinated a reason to ban them and then stubbornly stand by the decision.

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they should have given you a few Jah for the lost of time farming!
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masterlegend wrote: 33 minutes ago
they should have given you a few Jah for the lost of time farming!
That was my thought exactly 😉 A compensation with e. g. 10 Jah is the least you could have expected (and should not be a big deal for Blizz to manage that)

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Welcome back. I am very glad you got your account back! 🙂

Btw, if I recall correctly, The guy who was interviewed by Llama at the Blizzcon noted when he was asked where Blizzard is looking for feedback said "everywhere D2 related on the internet". Therefore it is not unlikely that at least sometimes Blizz staff is reading here and maybe someone had seen this posting and checked again.

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