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justinman114 wrote: 11 hours ago
I mean honestly, changing the way Blessed Hammer works is just anti Diablo II in my opinion. I don't care if you love it or hate it, the classic hammerdin is a staple of the game. I personally hope some of these leaks are not real. I know this is a somewhat minor thing but it feels more than that.
It's unusable in maggot lair, that alone justifies it imo.
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As a Wind druid main, I am confused by the wording of the rumors regarding element druid. For me personally it would be nice if Tornado would be reliable from distance... that's all I want. Now, I'll have to telestomp everything with Enigma because it's the most effective (and dangerous) way to use the skill since you hit better if you're in front of a monster. Lightning damage? Why? Doesn't make sense, make Hurricane AoE radius a little bigger - with hard points... Don't need a third damage type

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These rumors are just made-up wishes & wants by some Chinese content creator, which was misinterpreted as a "leak" and reposted by someone named "xiaohei" on BNet forums, then somehow everyone and their mother thinks it's a leak and/or "unconfirmed changes", and Coooley is making clickbait videos about it (big surprise). It's not. It's just some random Chinese dude's hopium, whose intent was misinterpreted and twisted.

From @Pavke (on Discord):
Pavke wrote:
its all misunderstanding and lost in translation

So this guy right here, called 战斗蜗牛: https://space.bilibili.com/53745747/dynamic
all that somehow loops back and xiaohei posts on d2r forums on August 31th about unconfirmed leaks.
rolf
self fulfilling prophecy, or whats it called

there is nothing here. just lost in translation.
BYB makes a podcast episode.
战斗蜗牛 listens to the episode, gets inspired by it and makes a video of what could they could possibly announce in BlizzCon
xiaohei watches the video and thinks those are leaks.
we read xiaohei post and think these are leaks.
Pavke wrote:
Leaked by the same leaker who previously leaked Warlock screenshots. Highly credible in Korean/Russian communities, though unconfirmed officially.
Leaker of Warlock screenshots was on reddit (Jan 30th) https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comment ... o_showcase
Leaker of Warlock class was Cleav3r on forums: (Jan 13th) https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t ... son/170076
Both didnt leak anything publicly yet.

- xiaohei thinks 战斗蜗牛 is the leaker or connected to a leaker.
战斗蜗牛 is just your average content creator on Chinese bilibili. 战斗蜗牛 makes 3 videos on August 30th: these leaks are formed upon someone else's thoughts and suggestions. Someone watched these video, misunderstood them or it was lost in translation and though these are supposed leaks

Might we actually be getting any of these changes? Maybe, who knows? But it'd just be coincidence if there's any overlap between actual new features/changes and the stuff mentioned in the post.

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Hopefully, it's like you wrote. First smaller changes to early game items and then all of a sudden such changes? This would not go well, I assume.

And it's not only Cooley, but also Sweet Phil reacted to this forum post and in his latest video Llama behaved as if he knew what was coming up, but who knows? Maybe just a good actor...

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Just another streamer bob click- and rage-baiting as streamer bobs do. Nothing to see here, move along.

Though going by that forum change list post, random and non-credible as it may be, most of them sound like a pretty bad idea that doesn't understand the actual issues (e.g. drood summoners getting even more single-target while still failing @ crowds) so...that does sound like something blizzard would do. ^^
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I'm not sure why the hammer change would be considered a nerf. The hammers would still spiral... the center of the spiral would be a short distance away, but you'd still be standing in a storm of hammers. Seems like making them usable in tight quarters would be worth the change.

In any case: I think some big changes for RoTW are reasonable. First off, as an "expansion," RoTW has FAR less content than LoD did, so they honestly need to add a significant amount from a value standpoint.

Second, as long as base (non-RoTW) D2R remains unchanged, that gives everyone 3 options to play how they want: you can play the original release, or play D2R for modern resolutions and some QoL stuff, or play RoTW for a new vision of Diablo 2.
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Give me all of that and more (without the Enigma nerf).

I guess they could change Hammerdin, cause its the other main Build for all the new -magicres stuff, but playstyle is too weird for many/new players.

A Vengeance remake would be awesome. Added cold, fire and lighting aoe damage via procs or something that scales up with skilllevel would be so nice.
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Spider-Dan wrote: 7 hours ago
First off, as an "expansion," RoTW has FAR less content than LoD did, so they honestly need to add a significant amount from a value standpoint.
Blizzard never actually called it an expansion. The BNet app calls it a DLC. Calling it an "expansion" is entirely community-invented. Not every DLC is an expansion, but some people (a lot of people) seem to default to calling it an expansion even though it was never marketed as such.
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Also, just a reminder of what I posted earlier -

You're dicussing some Chinese content creator's hopes & wishes. That's it. You're not discussing any kind of leak. Whatever Blizzard's cooking (if anything), it has nothing to do with this list. There may be overlap, sure, but that'd be entirely coincidental.

Any random person can make a video with their own ideas for upcoming changes. This one just gained a lot of traction because some interpreted it as a leak despite the source being a random content creator who very clearly just made his own wish list.

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Llama was talking yesterday about how this is obviously not real just based on how the coding would have to work. The deep changes that some of these would require to game and spell mechanics make it clear that it's not real. There is no chance of changing hammers to be straight, that's the opposite of what they want. They wanted miasma chains to be clunky like hammers on purpose. They liked the hammers being arcs.

The devs have been really clear about wanting to keep D2 consistent at its core. I think right now they're looking at slightly buffing unused uniques. Maybe we'll see a Tyrael's buff or something.

Generally, though, I thought the consensus was that no TP while shapeshifting was a bad deal.
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departure wrote: 1 hour ago
Generally, though, I thought the consensus was that no TP while shapeshifting was a bad deal.

Have to agree... one of my favorite builds is a Werewolf Fury. Granted the faster walk you can get takes the sting away a bit, but being able to use Teleport while shifted would go a long way in the play of this build.

Again - I agree this is all rumors and clickbait, but Teleport would be great :)
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ShadowHeart wrote: 4 hours ago
Also, just a reminder of what I posted earlier -

You're dicussing some Chinese content creator's hopes & wishes. That's it. You're not discussing any kind of leak. Whatever Blizzard's cooking (if anything), it has nothing to do with this list. There may be overlap, sure, but that'd be entirely coincidental.

Any random person can make a video with their own ideas for upcoming changes. This one just gained a lot of traction because some interpreted it as a leak despite the source being a random content creator who very clearly just made his own wish list.
Supposedly, this particular Korean content creator was one of the first sources to leak Warlock before RoTW was announced, which is why this is being given much more credibility.
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Spider-Dan wrote: 1 hour ago
Supposedly, this particular Korean content creator was one of the first sources to leak Warlock before RoTW was announced, which is why this is being given much more credibility.
What? The source was a set of videos by a Chinese content creator on a Chinese site (战斗蜗牛 is Chinese, not Korean) that someone misinterpreted as being a leak and posted on Blizzard's forums. The original "source" is just that dude's personal wish list. Everything that was re-posted or turned into other videos by other content creates can be sourced back to the same Chinese person's wish list videos.

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ShadowHeart wrote: 40 minutes ago
Spider-Dan wrote: 1 hour ago
Supposedly, this particular Korean content creator was one of the first sources to leak Warlock before RoTW was announced, which is why this is being given much more credibility.
What? The source was a set of videos by a Chinese content creator on a Chinese site (战斗蜗牛 is Chinese, not Korean) that someone misinterpreted as being a leak and posted on Blizzard's forums. The original "source" is just that dude's personal wish list. Everything that was re-posted or turned into other videos by other content creates can be sourced back to the same Chinese person's wish list videos.
I admire your persistant educational efforts 😉😇
My Youtube page is currently flooded with this hoax 😁

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