fire lock

im at lvl 90, late to the warlock game

maxed out the 3 fire skills
maxed out Consume
1 point to Goatman for the Consume

where should all remaining points go to further fire damage

i have mang song and ars diablos book that do great damage

but having more fun using my Phoenix sheild and hoto atm

also will i be able to bind a demon with so much put into fire skills?

maxrolls guide doesnt detail which demon skills give more to fire damage other than Consume

Defiler and Bound Demon add decent damage.

Get 10 hard points in Demonic Mastery, and bind 1 demon and summon a defiler. With plus skills just 1 point in defiler is probably good.

Other useful skills to add more than 1 point - Blood Oath for damage reduction and Hex Siphon for mana and life regeneration

Fire Locks Consume a Tainted, not a Goatman, see here: Summon Tainted

10 points to Demon Mastery for the maximum of 3 demons, of course. You Consume a Tainted, summon a Defiler and bind a Demon (1 point is enough).

1 point into Hex Siphon for fabulous life and mana after each kill.

Edit: @varangium was a few seconds faster.

richhtx wrote: 1 hour ago

im at lvl 90, late to the warlock game

maxed out the 3 fire skills
maxed out Consume
1 point to Goatman for the Consume

where should all remaining points go to further fire damage

i have mang song and ars diablos book that do great damage

but having more fun using my Phoenix sheild and hoto atm

also will i be able to bind a demon with so much put into fire skills?

maxrolls guide doesnt detail which demon skills give more to fire damage other than Consume

Ah like @mikelessar says, you need to Consume a Tainted, not a Goatman.

Consume Tainted is -15% to enemy fire res and +20% fire skill damage. The combination of those two is massive.

my first time that what i did but didnt notice much difference visually
so ill add 10 to Demonic Mastery

what do i put the remaining points into?

varangium wrote: 45 minutes ago

Defiler and Bound Demon add decent damage.

Get 10 hard points in Demonic Mastery, and bind 1 demon and summon a defiler. With plus skills just 1 point in defiler is probably good.

Other useful skills to add more than 1 point - Blood Oath for damage reduction and Hex Siphon for mana and life regeneration

Hex Siphon ok thanks

Comparing fire jewel socketed* Mang Song + Diablos vs. Hoto+Phoenix:

Mang+Diablos:
- +5 all skills
- +7 Chaos skills
- +12 Apocolypse
- -25 to enemy fire res
- +35% fire skill damage
- 55% FCR

Hoto+Phoenix
- +3 to all skills
- +3 to Chaos skills
- +3 to Apocolypse
- -28% to enemy fire res
- +0% to fire skill damage
- 40% FCR

- 40 Resist All
- Redemption Aura

*socketed with standard 5/5 fire jewels, because presumably you can put the uber fire jewel somewhere else. But actually the more fair comparison is with a 10/10 fire jewel since you will probably be wearing Flickering Flame and Enigma and have nowhere else to put an uber jewel.

So you lose 2 all skills, 4 Chaos skills, 9 Apocolpyse, 15% FCR, and 35% fire skill damage in exchange for an extra 3 enemy negative res, 40% resist all, and Redemption aura.

If you swap out 3 Chaos skillers for 15% resist all charms to replace the lost resistance, then the net is:

Lose 2 all skills, 1 Chaos skills, 6 Apocolpyse, 15% FCR, 35% fire skill damage, and 5 all res in exchange for an extra 3 enemy negative res and Redemption aura. If comparing with a 10/10 uber jewel, the loss increases to 40% fire skill damage and you now gain 2 enemy negative res.

So essentially you give up a ton of damage and skill bonuses in exchange for the Redemption aura. Hex Siphon is like a mini- Redemption aura, IMO best to go with that and get the extra damage.

All that said, Hoto+Phoenix is still a nice option. Also, I'm comparing top end rolls, at lower end rolls the comparison is different.

richhtx wrote: 6 minutes ago

varangium wrote: 45 minutes ago

Defiler and Bound Demon add decent damage.

Get 10 hard points in Demonic Mastery, and bind 1 demon and summon a defiler. With plus skills just 1 point in defiler is probably good.

Other useful skills to add more than 1 point - Blood Oath for damage reduction and Hex Siphon for mana and life regeneration

do i have to cast Hex Siphon on monsters for this to work?

No, just cast it wherever, and it makes your weapon glow light blue and you get +life and +mana after all subsequent kills for the next however many minutes it lasts.

Obsession + Ars Al'Diabolos is better than hoto + Phoenix Monarch.

my Phoenix rolled goot lvl 14 Redemption and 397 ed
and my mangs fire is mid , ars is a bit higher
i still have plenty of room for skillers
my Flickering Flame also rolled very good lvl 7 fire res aura and -15 enemy fire res

i have good luck rolling these runewords

lots of damage difference on the stats but still clears nearly the same, so with added skillers itll be fine, can hit a quick weapon swap for tough Herald packs