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Anyone know whether
Blood Oath
damage transfer operates off of hard or soft points in patch 3.2?

Prior to 3.2 it was hard points ,but they changed the damage scaling to get diminishing returns in patch 3.2

On the one hand:
- the patch notes didn't say they were changing it from using hard points to soft points.

On the other hand:
- they didn't previously say it was just hard points - people simply figured it out, and the tool tip incorrectly implied it was soft points.
- one would think they might fix the incorrect tool tip data if they bothered to change the scaling
- one might also think if they intended only hard points they wouldn't allow the tool tip data to go above the 25% at level 20 (and it does, it showed 27% for me before I did a respec).

But then again, back to the first hand, I recently respec'ed my WarLock and he feels a little less tanky with less
Blood Oath
.

I previously had 20 hard points in
Blood Oath
, but now under the assumption it is diminishing returns and soft points respec'ed to have just 1 hard point. My WL seems a bit less tanky now, although that is subjective and I can't say 100% sure. He is still incredibly tanky, but I am noticing that I more frequently might lose 25-30% health in a tough battle than before the respec where that almost never happened. Could be random / bad luck. By the tool tips, I have only dropped from 27% xfer at level 34 to 23% at level 14 (hard point 1).

So, anyone know? Is it hard points or soft points now? I still have 11 points left I haven't reallocated or I can respec again.
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Anyone know whether
Blood Oath
damage transfer operates off of hard or soft points in patch 3.2?

Prior to 3.2 it was hard points ,but they changed the damage scaling to get diminishing returns in patch 3.2

On the one hand:
- the patch notes didn't say they were changing it from using hard points to soft points.

On the other hand:
- they didn't previously say it was just hard points - people simply figured it out, and the tool tip incorrectly implied it was soft points.
- one would think they might fix the incorrect tool tip data if they bothered to change the scaling
- one might also think if they intended only hard points they wouldn't allow the tool tip data to go above the 25% at level 20 (and it does, it showed 27% for me before I did a respec).

But then again, back to the first hand, I recently respec'ed my WarLock and he feels a little less tanky with less
Blood Oath
.

I previously had 20 hard points in
Blood Oath
, but now under the assumption it is diminishing returns and soft points respec'ed to have just 1 hard point. My WL seems a bit less tanky now, although that is subjective and I can't say 100% sure. He is still incredibly tanky, but I am noticing that I more frequently might lose 25-30% health in a tough battle than before the respec where that almost never happened. Could be random / bad luck. By the tool tips, I have only dropped from 27% xfer at level 34 to 23% at level 14 (hard point 1).

So, anyone know? Is it hard points or soft points now? I still have 11 points left I haven't reallocated or I can respec again.
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Not sure as well but I have been putting all my extra points into it on my
Abyss
Warlock and I feel like he is tankier. So I think the tool tip is a lie and hardpoints matter I think i remember it caps out at 40% probably read that on reddit.

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[2] Display for damage redirected to demon is wrong. Calculation is bugged and only uses hardpoints despite using a softpoint function (ln12) to calculate the damage redirection. Grants 5+2*(lvl-1) damage redirection, so the maximum obtainable is 43% damage redirection at 20 hard points. Formula for damage redirected to demon has been changed to increase diminishingly up to 30% at the maximum. The previous hard (base) points only bug is fixed.
from https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gtM ... it?tab=t.0

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atari wrote: 6 hours ago
[2] Display for damage redirected to demon is wrong. Calculation is bugged and only uses hardpoints despite using a softpoint function (ln12) to calculate the damage redirection. Grants 5+2*(lvl-1) damage redirection, so the maximum obtainable is 43% damage redirection at 20 hard points. Formula for damage redirected to demon has been changed to increase diminishingly up to 30% at the maximum. The previous hard (base) points only bug is fixed.
from https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gtM ... it?tab=t.0
Interesting, thanks. This document seems pretty thorough, so I imagine it is most likely correct.

Still feels less tanky to me, but I guess is random variance.
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atari wrote: 6 hours ago
[2] Display for damage redirected to demon is wrong. Calculation is bugged and only uses hardpoints despite using a softpoint function (ln12) to calculate the damage redirection. Grants 5+2*(lvl-1) damage redirection, so the maximum obtainable is 43% damage redirection at 20 hard points. Formula for damage redirected to demon has been changed to increase diminishingly up to 30% at the maximum. The previous hard (base) points only bug is fixed.
from https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gtM ... it?tab=t.0
Sadly, seems like the warlock skill trees were cobbled together without much editorial review.
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