Is Phoenix strike Mosaic Assassin suitable to kill the Uber ancient?

Is the full end game gear

Phoenix Strike assassin suitable to kill the Uber ancient? i've been looking for guide on this, but hardly find one...

PinacaTheGreat wrote: 4 hours ago

Is the full end game gear

Phoenix Strike assassin suitable to kill the Uber ancient? i've been looking for guide on this, but hardly find one...

Are you talking about a Mosaic assassin (non-ladder) or what is "full end game fear

Phoenix Strike assassin"?

PinacaTheGreat wrote: 4 hours ago

Is the full end game gear

Phoenix Strike assassin suitable to kill the Uber ancient? i've been looking for guide on this, but hardly find one...

Mosaic Assasin is suitable for killing any content in the game, though like other builds, there can be pro and cons.

In terms of killing speed - I doubt you can find any build to match the Mosaic.

On the "downside" you may struggle with the final kill (the order of which you kill them) - since you will have to seperate them and that can be tricky or at least take some extra time - conbined with the aoe that you cant really control - ending in the "wrong" uber dying last (or first).

If you want to farm a specific drop - then I reckon the smiter is the absolute top choice. I use both - but if I was to farm only a specific drop, then I would use my smiter since that gives me 100% control over the last kill. And its not like there are many seconds in difference.

* You can make a "sniper" build with the Mosaic with aprox. 1/3 of the full potential dmg (not including CB gear) - but that narrows the usage down by 99% imo *

If you want to carry on with the "sniper" - let me know and we can build one for you. If you want me to test it before you invest - let me know - but only if you are _serious_ about this one

vued wrote: 4 hours ago

PinacaTheGreat wrote: 4 hours ago

Is the full end game gear

Phoenix Strike assassin suitable to kill the Uber ancient? i've been looking for guide on this, but hardly find one...

Are you talking about a Mosaic assassin (non-ladder) or what is "full end game fear

Phoenix Strike assassin"?

Ya, Softcore NL, ya, i have a full build Mosaic Assassin, just never heard anyone mention it is suitable for Uber Ancient or not..

retepnap wrote: 3 hours ago

PinacaTheGreat wrote: 4 hours ago

Is the full end game gear

Phoenix Strike assassin suitable to kill the Uber ancient? i've been looking for guide on this, but hardly find one...

Mosaic Assasin is suitable for killing any content in the game, though like other builds, there can be pro and cons.

In terms of killing speed - I doubt you can find any build to match the Mosaic.

On the "downside" you may struggle with the final kill (the order of which you kill them) - since you will have to seperate them and that can be tricky or at least take some extra time - conbined with the aoe that you cant really control - ending in the "wrong" uber dying last (or first).

If you want to farm a specific drop - then I reckon the smiter is the absolute top choice. I use both - but if I was to farm only a specific drop, then I would use my smiter since that gives me 100% control over the last kill. And its not like there are many seconds in difference.

* You can make a "sniper" build with the Mosaic with aprox. 1/3 of the full potential dmg (not including CB gear) - but that narrows the usage down by 99% imo *

If you want to carry on with the "sniper" - let me know and we can build one for you. If you want me to test it before you invest - let me know - but only if you are _serious_ about this one

What is the sniper build? it will be great u can show me that? do i have to respec?

The sniper build is me theory crafting the "perfect" Mosaic for uber ancients and perhaps uber runs as well (using Enigma for mini ubers and then CoH for the bosses - this build allows for a multiple of choices eg. small charms that covers poison res etc.).

Yes, you would be forced to respec and since you already have the full throttle Mosaic - I would assume you are using it to the widest possible extend in terms of killing contents in the game - thus making it a less desirable choice to do.

However, if we were to say that you would respec to grind several drops from uber ancients - and then respec back into your current build, which would only "cost" you 2 x

Token of Absolution - and of course adding the new items, then it would look something like this:

Guillaume's Face - for that 35% CB - socket with 15 all res jewel (and maybe another useful mod? 9 str maybe).
Crafted gloves - for an extra 10 CB
Upgraded (very important)

Gore Rider - for the last 15% CB - remember they are high in str. req. once upgraded (156).

CoH - for that +65 all res and +2 skills -

Archon Plate 15 ED is probably the best choice.

Mara amulet
1 x

Raven Frost
1 x BK ring

Verdungo

Belt or

String of Ears - Thundergods could also be a good choice vs.

Madawc

Assuming you are at least level 90 - it would look something like this:

20 x

Tiger Strike
20 x

Dragon Talon
20 x

Cobra Strike
20 x Fist of Fire
1 x

Claw Mastery (prerequisite)
18 x

Fade
1 x

Weapon Block

(the above is just an example assuming level 90).

For this build to work "correct" you need to

Charge up Fist of Fire at a minimum of level 34 - which should be very easy to reach.

There are many variations to make - pick your choices I would say

NB: I have not made all the calculations - I would assume you do not need that high level of

Fade to reach 75 all res - but this gives you an idea of the "path" and why you should pick those skills in question.

You can also drop the gloves and go for max. ias - 20 ias gloves and 15 ias in

Helm - depending on your budget and willingness to spend - 15 all res may not be needed if you have higher level

Fade. You need 26 ias from gear and either runic or greater talon to hit the fastest breakpoint.

Now that I think about this build - I am very curious myself - it may actually be faster than my smiter ... hmm ...

Let me know what you think !

these are the gears i normally used for my Mosaic Assassin...

FYI, only the main hand Mosaic needs to have a fast base. The off-hand Mosaic base's attack speed does not matter at all, so no need to make Mosaic only in

Greater Talons.

retepnap wrote: 2 hours ago

The sniper build is me theory crafting the "perfect" Mosaic for uber ancients and perhaps uber runs as well (using Enigma for mini ubers and then CoH for the bosses - this build allows for a multiple of choices eg. small charms that covers poison res etc.).

Yes, you would be forced to respec and since you already have the full throttle Mosaic - I would assume you are using it to the widest possible extend in terms of killing contents in the game - thus making it a less desirable choice to do.

However, if we were to say that you would respec to grind several drops from uber ancients - and then respec back into your current build, which would only "cost" you 2 x

Token of Absolution - and of course adding the new items, then it would look something like this:

Guillaume's Face - for that 35% CB - socket with 15 all res jewel (and maybe another useful mod? 9 str maybe).
Crafted gloves - for an extra 10 CB
Upgraded (very important)

Gore Rider - for the last 15% CB - remember they are high in str. req. once upgraded (156).

CoH - for that +65 all res and +2 skills -

Archon Plate 15 ED is probably the best choice.

Mara amulet
1 x

Raven Frost
1 x BK ring

Verdungo

Belt or

String of Ears - Thundergods could also be a good choice vs.

Madawc

Assuming you are at least level 90 - it would look something like this:

20 x

Tiger Strike
20 x

Dragon Talon
20 x

Cobra Strike
20 x Fist of Fire
1 x

Claw Mastery (prerequisite)
18 x

Fade
1 x

Weapon Block

(the above is just an example assuming level 90).

For this build to work "correct" you need to

Charge up Fist of Fire at a minimum of level 34 - which should be very easy to reach.

There are many variations to make - pick your choices I would say

NB: I have not made all the calculations - I would assume you do not need that high level of

Fade to reach 75 all res - but this gives you an idea of the "path" and why you should pick those skills in question.

You can also drop the gloves and go for max. ias - 20 ias gloves and 15 ias in

Helm - depending on your budget and willingness to spend - 15 all res may not be needed if you have higher level

Fade. You need 26 ias from gear and either runic or greater talon to hit the fastest breakpoint.

Now that I think about this build - I am very curious myself - it may actually be faster than my smiter ... hmm ...

Let me know what you think !

Great idea.. My Assassin is level 99...But im wondering if i focus on using

Tiger Strike, will it be sufficient enough to kill the uber ancient,

If i use 34+ level FoF, isnt it the

Cobra Strike cant leech? i only put 1 point in FoF, i used to play with lightning & Ice, seldom use fire previously

both my claw is Greater Talon, is the IAS enough, my glove has another 20 IAS too, but for uber i might change to Dracu

I have 2 point

Weapon Block from the weapon, i think save the point here, with gear have 53% block.. I also max out my

Fade currently with resist all 69%

mikelessar wrote: 1 hour ago

FYI, only the main hand Mosaic needs to have a fast base. The off-hand Mosaic base's attack speed does not matter at all, so no need to make Mosaic only in

Greater Talons.

ya, all my

Claws base are Greater Talon

mikelessar wrote: 1 hour ago

FYI, only the main hand Mosaic needs to have a fast base. The off-hand Mosaic base's attack speed does not matter at all, so no need to make Mosaic only in

Greater Talons.

This is true but ...

- GT is easier to re-sell and you will get the highest price for GT vs. any of the other for obvious reasons. It also just looks better?

- If you want to try out the

Dragon Claw build, then it matters (a far better build imo).

PinacaTheGreat wrote: 3 hours ago

retepnap wrote: 3 hours ago

PinacaTheGreat wrote: 4 hours ago

Is the full end game gear

Phoenix Strike assassin suitable to kill the Uber ancient? i've been looking for guide on this, but hardly find one...

Mosaic Assasin is suitable for killing any content in the game, though like other builds, there can be pro and cons.

In terms of killing speed - I doubt you can find any build to match the Mosaic.

On the "downside" you may struggle with the final kill (the order of which you kill them) - since you will have to seperate them and that can be tricky or at least take some extra time - conbined with the aoe that you cant really control - ending in the "wrong" uber dying last (or first).

If you want to farm a specific drop - then I reckon the smiter is the absolute top choice. I use both - but if I was to farm only a specific drop, then I would use my smiter since that gives me 100% control over the last kill. And its not like there are many seconds in difference.

* You can make a "sniper" build with the Mosaic with aprox. 1/3 of the full potential dmg (not including CB gear) - but that narrows the usage down by 99% imo *

If you want to carry on with the "sniper" - let me know and we can build one for you. If you want me to test it before you invest - let me know - but only if you are _serious_ about this one

What is the sniper build? it will be great u can show me that? do i have to respec?

Yes, the Fist of Fire is maximum leel 34 - my mistake - got those reversed in the process - but you know about it, so I assume you got that covered - that leaves plenty of skill pts.

If you still have doubts about this - I will make a test run this weekend and report back Cause as I mentioned, I got curious myself - I like to test all sorts of niche builds.