Which of these helmets is better for Warlock and what should I socket it with?

Schnorki wrote: 2 months ago

Rhaegar86 wrote: 2 months ago

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So you would still choose Hellwarden over Harlequins Crest I assume? I'm planning to Larzuk one of them with an Um and throw 2 more Ums in Measured Wrath. My bolt will likely get changed out to a sigil of some sort. I was using Lethargy until it got super nerf'd so now I've been using Rancor which is pretty useful since Heralds drop on your head now

The only real reason to use Shako over hellwarden is if you're going for an MF-focused build and don't have access to the top-tier alternatives yet (e.g. +3/mf Diadem).
Since I for one don't focus that much on MF, I'd always go with hellwarden over crest.

Yes, crest does give a solid boost in mana and life as well but as a lock, you really don't need that imo. They end up with tons of life either way.

Yeah that makes sense

My Abyss Warlock uses a Hellwarden with -8% to enemy magic res because of the extra damage (it's more than the extra +1 from Shako) and the FCR.

Since I have Enigma, Gheeds and Uber jewel, I already have "enough" MF and the extra MF from Shako is almost negligible since my clear speed would be lower because of the lower damage.
Then of course, Shako also offers tons of flat +life. But my lock has tons of life anyway with Consume and CTA. So, this extra life is not needed.
Shako has tons of flat +mana. Very nice for mana hungry builds like Abyss. But Hellwarden gives +4 - +6 mana after each kill and you usually kill at least 6-10 monsters with each Abyss so that is a lot of mana that you regain instantly after casting Abyss.

Abyss has 10% phys damage reduction. Nice, but not really needed with my two big meat-shields (bound Dmeon and merc) and the tons of life that my Lock has.

So in total: Hellwarden wins for my Abyss Warlock if it has -8% enemy magic res and +5 or ideally +6 mana after each kill. It is socketed with a Guardian's Light.

My lock is softcore. If he were hardcore, I would probably rather go for Shako if I could afford to get enough FCR somewhere else.

mikelessar wrote: 2 months ago

My Abyss Warlock uses a Hellwarden with -8% to enemy magic res because of the extra damage (it's more than the extra +1 from Shako) and the FCR.

Since I have Enigma, Gheeds and Uber jewel, I already have "enough" MF and the extra MF from Shako is almost negligible since my clear speed would be lower because of the lower damage.
Then of course, Shako also offers tons of flat +life. But my lock has tons of life anyway with Consume and CTA. So, this extra life is not needed.
Shako has tons of flat +mana. Very nice for mana hungry builds like Abyss. But Hellwarden gives +4 - +6 mana after each kill and you usually kill at least 6-10 monsters with each Abyss so that is a lot of mana that you regain instantly after casting Abyss.

Abyss has 10% phys damage reduction. Nice, but not really needed with my two big meat-shields (bound Dmeon and merc) and the tons of life that my Lock has.

So in total: Hellwarden wins for my Abyss Warlock if it has -8% enemy magic res and +5 or ideally +6 mana after each kill. It is socketed with a Guardian's Light.

My lock is softcore. If he were hardcore, I would probably rather go for Shako if I could afford to get enough FCR somewhere else.

Great breakdown. Thank you. Now that you mention it, I will probably save the socket for an Uber jewel as well but even at level 96 I still don't think I can compete with the newly upgraded colossals. I've been reading horror stories about them lately. Plus I still need statues from Act 2 and Act 3