Favorite zon builds

ganseng wrote: 20 hours ago

So guys I did make another zon
Spearzon this time.. obviously Breath of the Dying to be equipped
And question is,

Matriarchal Spear or

Matriarchal Pike?

Pike deals 12.5% more dmg, and build will prly have at least 95 IAS and lvl 12

Fanaticism.. so will there be a substantial advantage in breakpoints with the

Spear on

Jab and

Fend?

There are basically 3 options for the base each with their own tradeoffs:

*

Matriarchal Spear: good consistent damage, fastest attack speed, +skills
*

Matriarchal Pike: high damage, slower speed, +skills
*

Ghost Spear: high damage, fastest attack speed, no +skills

All three hit hard and are perfectly viable options (assuming ethereal of course).
I've run Chaos with all three of them and the difference is negligible (players 1 online).

ganseng wrote: 5 hours ago

hmm made botd out of an ethereal

Matriarchal Pike.. not sure it's optimized in every possible breakpoint, but it certainly feels godly!

It's fine for general gameplay at that breakpoint but not ideal like you said. If it really bothers you, you could try a Hustle (mat or ghost)

Spear on swap.

Fend can proc the

Burst of Speed fairly easily (esp. if surrounded) and once proc'd you'll have optimal attack breakpoints when you swap back to your

Pike.

thanks! i think the

Pike is pretty close to optimum with 60 ias on botd, 20 on gloves and lvl 12

Fanaticism from the merc.. maybe just 1 ias jewel missing

Duriel and meph took about 3 seconds each

btw if tooltip says max dmg 13k that means the very best you can get per hit is 52k (x2 from crit and x2 from amplify dmg), correct?

sor wrote: 2 hours ago

ganseng wrote: 20 hours ago

So guys I did make another zon
Spearzon this time.. obviously Breath of the Dying to be equipped
And question is,

Matriarchal Spear or

Matriarchal Pike?

Pike deals 12.5% more dmg, and build will prly have at least 95 IAS and lvl 12

Fanaticism.. so will there be a substantial advantage in breakpoints with the

Spear on

Jab and

Fend?

There are basically 3 options for the base each with their own tradeoffs:

*

Matriarchal Spear: good consistent damage, fastest attack speed, +skills
*

Matriarchal Pike: high damage, slower speed, +skills
*

Ghost Spear: high damage, fastest attack speed, no +skills

All three hit hard and are perfectly viable options (assuming ethereal of course).
I've run Chaos with all three of them and the difference is negligible (players 1 online).

ganseng wrote: 5 hours ago

hmm made botd out of an ethereal

Matriarchal Pike.. not sure it's optimized in every possible breakpoint, but it certainly feels godly!

It's fine for general gameplay at that breakpoint but not ideal like you said. If it really bothers you, you could try a Hustle (mat or ghost)

Spear on swap.

Fend can proc the

Burst of Speed fairly easily (esp. if surrounded) and once proc'd you'll have optimal attack breakpoints when you swap back to your

Pike.

I been playing forever Mixed Ice/Fire Bowazon or

Lightning Fury, I found more fun to play

Strafe gatling , but java with sunder and equipment its kinda top tier.

Where are you guys farming

Crack of the Heavens?, since griffon´s is almost impossible to farm (or very boring), I feel I wont transition my bowazon to java till I get a light sunder, I hear they are dropping more often in this patch, any tips?

i got one lightning sunder from a

Herald last patch and another from a random mob this patch. also got one griffon from a

Herald last patch, and another griffon and another ethereal griffon don't remember where.. so it's just rng and endless grind

and btw, i would advise to

Concentrate on one element, e.g. Ice, as it's better optimized, and cold sunders are not that difficult to buy these days

Moreina wrote: 1 hour ago

I been playing forever Mixed Ice/Fire Bowazon or

Lightning Fury, I found more fun to play

Strafe gatling , but java with sunder and equipment its kinda top tier.

Where are you guys farming

Crack of the Heavens?, since griffon´s is almost impossible to farm (or very boring), I feel I wont transition my bowazon to java till I get a light sunder, I hear they are dropping more often in this patch, any tips?

ganseng wrote: 51 minutes ago

i got one lightning sunder from a

Herald last patch and another from a random mob this patch. also got one griffon from a

Herald last patch, and another griffon and another ethereal griffon don't remember where.. so it's just rng and endless grind

and btw, i would advise to

Concentrate on one element, e.g. Ice, as it's better optimized, and cold sunders are not that difficult to buy these days

I the worst case scenario I will trade for it, there is a lot of LOD sunders around, I guess I will try luck with the heralds first, perhaps this season RNG help me , last season tried 680

Pindleskin, pits,

Chaos Sanctuary rotation (350 MF) with no luck (Nneither Griffon, War travelers or

Jah), If not using Java, usually like to play mixed bowazon, since relying on one element its such a pain to deal with innmunes, but I guess this seson I can go main froze and alt fire, thanks for the tip tho.

heralds themselves seem to be underwhelming this patch.. but sunders can drop anywhere

not sure about ladder, but non-ladder you can fully equip an old sunder and full m'avina for 2-3

Ist.. and it will certainly achieve more than a hybrid

if you fully optimize a frozen arrow build, you have maybe 12 spare skill points which is not enough for a meaningful

Exploding Arrow dmg.. and you are unlikely to unlock these 12 points anyways as the progress is so damn slow past lvl 87

Moreina wrote: 27 minutes ago

ganseng wrote: 51 minutes ago

i got one lightning sunder from a

Herald last patch and another from a random mob this patch. also got one griffon from a

Herald last patch, and another griffon and another ethereal griffon don't remember where.. so it's just rng and endless grind

and btw, i would advise to

Concentrate on one element, e.g. Ice, as it's better optimized, and cold sunders are not that difficult to buy these days

I the worst case scenario I will trade for it, there is a lot of LOD sunders around, I guess I will try luck with the heralds first, perhaps this season RNG help me , last season tried 680

Pindleskin, pits,

Chaos Sanctuary rotation (350 MF) with no luck (Nneither Griffon, War travelers or

Jah), If not using Java, usually like to play mixed bowazon, since relying on one element its such a pain to deal with innmunes, but I guess this seson I can go main froze and alt fire, thanks for the tip tho.