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Is this still the case?
Also note that Iron Golems only persist between games when cast by the Necromancer's skill. (i.e. not by an item's Charge)
This would mean: a sorc can not have a persistent Iron Golem.
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ceving 189

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Is this still the case?
Also note that Iron Golems only persist between games when cast by the Necromancer's skill. (i.e. not by an item's Charge)
This would mean: a sorc can not have a persistent Iron Golem.
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leox 518

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No it is false.
I use ig around 3 days ago, it is carry over between games.

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You have to leave the game with the item that gave the charges still equipped. Otherwise the golem will disappear upon creating a new game
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that's valuable information, thx for sharing. meaning i can put Metalgrid, cast golem, put my normal amulet back on, and before exiting put Metalgrid back on?

what gives charges apart from metal grid? how squishy is the golem at lvl 22?

for high performance quick run builds it's a risk/annoyance of course.. but for slow fun runs it's a nice boost

what items would be good for following builds?

fire sorc - Medusa's Gaze? Infinity :D?
self wield Infinity zon?
icemaiden? if merc wears Faith maybe golem out of Insight?
bowzon.. Mist and Faith already equipped, maybe add something with might?
Plague zon.. also medusa?
firezon with Phoenix equipped and Faith on merc?
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another idea.. if i stick a few (cheap) facets into an item and make a golem out of it, will it boost my elemental dmg?
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leox 518

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ganseng wrote: 3 months ago
another idea.. if i stick a few (cheap) facets into an item and make a golem out of it, will it boost my elemental dmg?
it will boost Iron Golem elemental dmg but not your char.


This amulet is very useful , it is my favorite amulet.
But it will cost a lot of uniques....even with strongest Stormshield, it will only last around 15 run. For non shield, like Insight, it will last 1-3 run....

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leox 518

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ganseng wrote: 3 months ago
that's valuable information, thx for sharing. meaning i can put Metalgrid, cast golem, put my normal amulet back on, and before exiting put Metalgrid back on?

what gives charges apart from metal grid? how squishy is the golem at lvl 22?

for high performance quick run builds it's a risk/annoyance of course.. but for slow fun runs it's a nice boost

what items would be good for following builds?

fire sorc - Medusa's Gaze? Infinity :D?
self wield Infinity zon?
icemaiden? if merc wears Faith maybe golem out of Insight?
bowzon.. Mist and Faith already equipped, maybe add something with might?
Plague zon.. also medusa?
firezon with Phoenix equipped and Faith on merc?
Medusa's Gaze is useful

I tried last season full set. end up equip it by myself .

gaze is kind of strong shield, my run , it usually dead in 10 run. slightly lower to best strom shield 15 run.

You have to continue to purchase medusa shield from others, it is cheap but Consume too fast.

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so for physical chars Dreadfang and Lacerator would be good.. but fragile probably. or Last Wish on the ludcrous end
for elemental Medusa's Gaze, Plague (almost ludcrous), Insight and the most ludicrous option, Infinity
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sorry thought process continues..
why is the golem squishy if he has 12k hp with cta?
because of the res? and are res 0 or -100 in hell?
how does item type affect his stats? e.g. shield/weapon/armor/jewelry
and finally a highly theoretical question, will he proc Fade and become very tanky from Last Wish? :)
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leox 518

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he can get Fade, you only need use trachery or any Stormshield with physical new jewel.

however that is useless ig. d3 immortal follower...

medusa cannot socket new jewel because it still fagile, too expensive. You can easily beat that with another medusa shield resummon

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right.. even if he was durable i would lose him to disconnect pretty soon.. just imagine losing 2x Ber or 3x Jah like that. i wish they at least removed the requirement for Metalgrid to respawn on reconnect
and why do you say new jewel - does it benefit only him or also the character?
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So I tested it.. always a good idea before theorycrafting :D

The golem dies as soon as you take off the amulet. so you can't summon, swap to a good amulet and swap back before exiting. he does survive when you reenter the game.

meaning for sorc, neither medusa nor Plague make sense. Infinity could make sense maybe but it's just too crazy.

it could make sense for a bowazon theoretically with Dreadfang or Lacerator.. Atma's Scarab is also not good

btw which aura does golem have by default and what lvl? if some crazy person makes him out of Last Wish, will he get both auras?
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upd: tested with bowazon with a golem made out of Dreadfang, he died almost instantly in non-terrorized worldstone keep. good thing i didn't invest Infinity or Last Wish :D
so, back to Atma's Scarab, no use case detected
aura seemed to be no aura at all but just an optical effect?
and does tooltip in planner on this site actually says truth about hp, it didn't feel like 8k base + 50% from cta..
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leox 518

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
ganseng wrote: 3 months ago
right.. even if he was durable i would lose him to disconnect pretty soon.. just imagine losing 2x Ber or 3x Jah like that. i wish they at least removed the requirement for Metalgrid to respawn on reconnect
and why do you say new jewel - does it benefit only him or also the character?
Medusa's Gaze is work because it has block

And the only work case is Stormshield + new unique jewel physical , Fade will add in.

medusa is not work with new unique jewel because it's not strong enough.

About weapon, it is definitely not work because few resistance , hp , block, phy red red

Stormshield + Sol also work.

All other weapons, it is not work for non nec druid player.

Sorc, it can play Infinity + Insight but it need some skill to Teleport quick if ig hp not enough. Troublesome. not recommend.

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yes but you lose +3 fire skills and some added bonus for a 10% chance that a squishy thing will proc -10% res reduction on fire immunes and -40% on everything else that you are already killing very fast.. not worth it imo, even though you get some added survivability from res and armor on the amulet and some tankiness on the golem..

leox wrote: 3 months ago
ganseng wrote: 3 months ago
right.. even if he was durable i would lose him to disconnect pretty soon.. just imagine losing 2x Ber or 3x Jah like that. i wish they at least removed the requirement for Metalgrid to respawn on reconnect
and why do you say new jewel - does it benefit only him or also the character?
Medusa's Gaze is work because it has block

And the only work case is Stormshield + new unique jewel physical , Fade will add in.

medusa is not work with new unique jewel because it's not strong enough.

About weapon, it is definitely not work because few resistance , hp , block, phy red red

Stormshield + Sol also work.

All other weapons, it is not work for non nec druid player.

Sorc, it can play Infinity + Insight but it need some skill to Teleport quick if ig hp not enough. Troublesome. not recommend.
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ganseng wrote: 3 months ago
btw which aura does golem have by default and what lvl?
ganseng wrote: 3 months ago
aura seemed to be no aura at all but just an optical effect?
It's a Thorns aura. Kinda useless, but that's what it is. Not sure about the level, but it's kinda pointless to talk about in those terms since it's not the same Thorns as the Paladin aura. I.e., it's technically a different skill than Paladin Thorns, just with the same graphic and same type of effect (returned damage - but not the same values).

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Dreadfang Iron Golem possibly will make sense on a Warcry barb, since Mobs are stunned. And Golem can fight safely enough. Still this setup will need Enigma to Teleport out of danger .
If character is using Oath worth trying too .
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TheDoo 605

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ShadowHeart wrote: 3 months ago
ganseng wrote: 3 months ago
btw which aura does golem have by default and what lvl?
ganseng wrote: 3 months ago
aura seemed to be no aura at all but just an optical effect?
It's a Thorns aura. Kinda useless, but that's what it is. Not sure about the level, but it's kinda pointless to talk about in those terms since it's not the same Thorns as the Paladin aura. I.e., it's technically a different skill than Paladin Thorns, just with the same graphic and same type of effect (returned damage - but not the same values).
What happens if you stack the Paladin's Thorns aura with the default IG one? I'm assuming it gets overwritten same as any other would (whichever one is higher level). I'm also assuming same happens if you make IG from like Bramble?

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TheDoo wrote: 3 months ago
What happens if you stack the Paladin's Thorns aura with the default IG one? I'm assuming it gets overwritten same as any other would (whichever one is higher level). I'm also assuming same happens if you make IG from like Bramble?
According to Amazon Basin's article on Iron Golem, the Iron Golem's thorns is always overridden by Paladin Thorns;
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ShadowHeart wrote: 3 months ago
TheDoo wrote: 3 months ago
What happens if you stack the Paladin's Thorns aura with the default IG one? I'm assuming it gets overwritten same as any other would (whichever one is higher level). I'm also assuming same happens if you make IG from like Bramble?
According to Amazon Basin's article on Iron Golem, the Iron Golem's thorns is always overridden by Paladin Thorns;
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Thanks! I always somehow forget about that site (which often has very valuable info)... :(

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