Is the game ruined?

For me at least, yes, but I can't explain why.

And I have other friends that feel the same.

I really appreciate what blizz tried to do but... I dont feel to play it anymore - not right now.

What about you?

New stash tabs are very useful. Filter is helping. Great improvements.

Warlock is too strong but he will get nerfed.

Heralds and sunder system is stupid but it will get changed.

Overall, I'm fine. There is new life to this game after years of drought

mikelessar wrote: 2 hours ago

New stash tabs are very useful. Filter is helping. Great improvements.

Warlock is too strong but he will get nerfed.

Heralds and sunder system is stupid but it will get changed.

Overall, I'm fine. There is new life to this game after years of drought

Agreed, overall improvements and it seems like there will be rebalancing and correcting of bugged skills.

If they implement at least most of the changes they test on the upcoming PRT (like the announced changes in the Sunder and Statue merchanics as well as the WL nerfs and fixes) I think the game will improve significantly "back to the roots" I for my part am currently confident that things will get better

It has changed since RoTW, I agree but I still enjoy it as much as when I played this as a kid.

With the much needed QoL improvements like the Gems, Materials & Runes stash & the graphics overhaul makes it much more enjoyable.
Idk if I would ever play Diablo 2 again with the old graphics & without those QoL improvements.

Also a website like this Diablo2.io makes it alot more pleasant.
Heaps of information at your fingertips, a forum with an awesome community to communicate with if you have any questions regarding the game or to help you out.
A trade market. a Dclone Tracker. a TZ Tracker. What else?! Idk!
Just love this site.

I just hope they don't somehow kill the game in the near future with a patch or with over monetizing it someway , somehow.

I will say, the "forced fomo" of statue rotations combined with the "can't leave, locked in, no trading or quickly helping others or anything" of having to keep your shard game and

Herald progress alive did indeed severely impact my enjoyment of the game. And certainly not in a positive way.

Luckily, the upcoming changes drastically reduce if not entirely remove all of that again. Hell, just knowing those changes are coming mostly solved it for me as I can't be bothered to stress over it now when it is about to become more relaxed again anyways.

Schnorki wrote: 2 hours ago

I will say, the "forced fomo" of statue rotations combined with the "can't leave, locked in, no trading or quickly helping others or anything" of having to keep your shard game and

Herald progress alive did indeed severely impact my enjoyment of the game. And certainly not in a positive way.

Luckily, the upcoming changes drastically reduce if not entirely remove all of that again. Hell, just knowing those changes are coming mostly solved it for me as I can't be bothered to stress over it now when it is about to become more relaxed again anyways.

You summed up my feelings perfectly.

P.S. Get out of my head. Thank you.

The old D2R still there, you can play D2R exp, it still not changed anything.

if you arent go trade , just play the way you want to be, it should be same. You can play rotw or d2r exp.


some way they are success. Make everyone play one class only, and if nerf, all unhappy , not moving back previous class ...

They should just release another DLC, leave warlock unchange. nerf does not move things better.

Schnorki wrote: 2 hours ago

I will say, the "forced fomo" of statue rotations combined with the "can't leave, locked in, no trading or quickly helping others or anything" of having to keep your shard game and

Herald progress alive did indeed severely impact my enjoyment of the game. And certainly not in a positive way.

Luckily, the upcoming changes drastically reduce if not entirely remove all of that again. Hell, just knowing those changes are coming mostly solved it for me as I can't be bothered to stress over it now when it is about to become more relaxed again anyways.

I think I would enjoy it much more if also the online

Terror-zones would be known days in advance like the offline ones.. that way I would not have to check every 45min

Knappogue wrote: 2 hours ago

Schnorki wrote: 2 hours ago

I will say, the "forced fomo" of statue rotations combined with the "can't leave, locked in, no trading or quickly helping others or anything" of having to keep your shard game and

Herald progress alive did indeed severely impact my enjoyment of the game. And certainly not in a positive way.

Luckily, the upcoming changes drastically reduce if not entirely remove all of that again. Hell, just knowing those changes are coming mostly solved it for me as I can't be bothered to stress over it now when it is about to become more relaxed again anyways.

You summed up my feelings perfectly.

P.S. Get out of my head. Thank you.

Mine, too!

I just have no incentive now to hunt for statues or Heralds for the

Latent Flame Rift knowing it will be changed.
We have to wait to see how it will pan out.

I will go the same way - restarting playing and levelled my lock to hell

Baal - was fun

And now time to try

Uber Tristram and Uber ancients with him (yeah, I am slow, non ladder). So very positive so far, and as for the coming changes, most are welcome here too.

Schnorki wrote: 2 hours ago

I will say, the "forced fomo" of statue rotations combined with the "can't leave, locked in, no trading or quickly helping others or anything" of having to keep your shard game and

Herald progress alive did indeed severely impact my enjoyment of the game. And certainly not in a positive way.

Yeah, I think that is the core issue, they keep adding features that depend or timing, or decrease the need for community, or cooperation. Or worse - they make feel cooperating like losing out on something (farming tzs etc).

They listened to the youtubers too much imo, bc they do not really engage with the community on the same level as the average player. They are usually in a detached bubble with lots of ppl simping for them, and the game caters into that kind of instead of giving players more stuff like PD2's mapping, or more interesting mid-level runewords etc.

Yes, game keeps getting worse.

Project Diablo 2 does it better. I am thinking about switching to PD2

Schnorki wrote: 2 hours ago

I will say, the "forced fomo" of statue rotations combined with the "can't leave, locked in, no trading or quickly helping others or anything" of having to keep your shard game and

Herald progress alive did indeed severely impact my enjoyment of the game. And certainly not in a positive way.

Luckily, the upcoming changes drastically reduce if not entirely remove all of that again. Hell, just knowing those changes are coming mostly solved it for me as I can't be bothered to stress over it now when it is about to become more relaxed again anyways.

This. Even then, I'm not as focused on playing optimally so, to me, RotW was just a breath of fresh air, even with the flaws. Just the QoL changes made it worth it.

I like a lot of the new additions to the game such as rune and gem stacking, loot filter, running Uber ancients, and the chronicle is amusing albeit a contributor to compulsive behavior. The Warlock needs some readjustment to make it feel a little less like a walk-through and more of a challenge. Running

Herald's for latent sunders and TZ act bosses to get statues can be a little fatiguing, because you will get some act boss TZs repeatedly, and others sparingly. Once PTR runs its course and the bugs are all flushed out I think things will perk up some. No I don't think the game is ruined, I see it as a work in progress.

Schnorki wrote: 2 hours ago

I will say, the "forced fomo" of statue rotations combined with the "can't leave, locked in, no trading or quickly helping others or anything" of having to keep your shard game and

Herald progress alive did indeed severely impact my enjoyment of the game. And certainly not in a positive way.

Luckily, the upcoming changes drastically reduce if not entirely remove all of that again. Hell, just knowing those changes are coming mostly solved it for me as I can't be bothered to stress over it now when it is about to become more relaxed again anyways.

The

Herald thing especially, because if you left and had to build all the way back up to

Herald of

Terror (and in it's present state is a VERY big if), it just feels like a slog in it's current form.

Now the only I'd maybe say in heralds is remove

Thorns as an option so we're not messing with melee characters just for existing. (the reason it's not in the aura enchanted pool in the first place, and why obilvion knights had

Iron Maiden removed from their pool of curses.)

As for Warlock, is it really nerfs if a skill wasn't working as intended? (*cough*

Echoing Strike *cough*)

Drakenden wrote: 1 hour ago

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Now the only I'd maybe say in heralds is remove

Thorns as an option so we're not messing with melee characters just for existing. (the reason it's not in the aura enchanted pool in the first place, and why obilvion knights had

Iron Maiden removed from their pool of curses.)
[..]

Just fyi:

Herald

Thorns is low enough to where lifetap effectively outheals and hence overwrites it.
So as long as you can fit drac's or the like into your build (and get them to proc) heralds are fine for melee as well.

Well, except for the random moon lord ones that crit for upwards of 6k..that'll just Smoke nearly every melee build no matter what.

Thorns is the least of your worries there.

Schnorki wrote: 1 hour ago

Drakenden wrote: 1 hour ago

[..]
Now the only I'd maybe say in heralds is remove

Thorns as an option so we're not messing with melee characters just for existing. (the reason it's not in the aura enchanted pool in the first place, and why obilvion knights had

Iron Maiden removed from their pool of curses.)
[..]

Just fyi:

Herald

Thorns is low enough to where lifetap effectively outheals and hence overwrites it.
So as long as you can fit drac's or the like into your build (and get them to proc) heralds are fine for melee as well.

Well, except for the random moon lord ones that crit for upwards of 6k..that'll just Smoke nearly every melee build no matter what.

Thorns is the least of your worries there.

Huh, always thought it was the same as normal and not a special variant (haven't really played melee since lock came out and didn't want to chance it).

As for moon lords, extra fast moon lords are a firm nope, especially if they also rolled

Fanaticism.

Drakenden wrote: 1 hour ago

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Huh, always thought it was the same as normal and not a special variant (haven't really played melee since lock came out and didn't want to chance it).
[..]

Herald

Thorns is a bit weird...

It is apparently (per Pavke) a significantly lower level on heralds than it would be if it was just part of the normal aura pool on another mob of the same lvl.
The weird thing is, mathematically, it should still not quite work out with just

Life Tap, even with the penalties applied, unless you also have >21% leech (after possible penalties) on top of that. And yet, somehow, it does work just fine for both, my barb and his merc.

Though it still feels unnecessarily limiting to have

Thorns and to force melee into

Life Tap when ranged has no such forced choice and when melee is already at significantly higher risk anyways, thanks to being unable to truly avoid taking those 6k+ swings by any measure other than pure dumb luck.

I have loved D2 since the day it came out (loved D1 even before that), and I can confidently say that I love it even more nowadays. I don't think they have ruined a thing.

we may not be fully objective though : if we are here, that is necessarily because we love this game