Ladder Economy S13 ROTW

Is it just me, or is the economy absolute trash this season?
Why are annis trading at 2+

Ist?
I get WL Ts being a premium, but Annis? Makes gearing characters a PITA.

Also, drops seem super nerfed. I've done 12+hrs of Hell Cows, and have yet to see anything more than a

Fal. Hell, I haven't seen any decent runes (

Pul-

Um and up) in P8 games. What gives?

Rant over because it's super anecdotal, but I can't remember the last time the economy was this bad.

Also, no decent uniques. I don't mean shakos and arachs, but even stupid stuff like

Peasant Crown and

Tearhaunch. WTF.

Idk about ladder drops but a week ago during NL I managed to find a

Ber during cow runs so I assume just a bad luck streak?

NL is great. I hopped on, found 3 lems and an

Um farming

Arcane Sanctuary.

Also bases. Took me forever to find a crappy Insight base.

Morgormir wrote: 11 hours ago

Is it just me, or is the economy absolute trash this season?
Why are annis trading at 2+

Ist?
I get WL Ts being a premium, but Annis? Makes gearing characters a PITA.

Its not just torches, its everything. RotW brought MANY retired players back to the game. These new players want all the core items, anni, torches,

Shako, Enigma, etc. Driving up the prices. Demand is high.

Knappogue wrote: 11 hours ago

Morgormir wrote: 11 hours ago

Is it just me, or is the economy absolute trash this season?
Why are annis trading at 2+

Ist?
I get WL Ts being a premium, but Annis? Makes gearing characters a PITA.

Its not just torches, its everything. RotW brought MANY retired players back to the game. These new players want all the core items, anni, torches,

Shako, Enigma, etc. Driving up the prices. Demand is high.

I get the usual items being in demand, but I can't seem to gear my character for crap. Even rare items seem terrible.

I did find an arioc's and

Shako on NL though, so I can't complain there. The ladder drops just seem awful though.

Morgormir wrote: 11 hours ago

Knappogue wrote: 11 hours ago

Morgormir wrote: 11 hours ago

Is it just me, or is the economy absolute trash this season?
Why are annis trading at 2+

Ist?
I get WL Ts being a premium, but Annis? Makes gearing characters a PITA.

Its not just torches, its everything. RotW brought MANY retired players back to the game. These new players want all the core items, anni, torches,

Shako, Enigma, etc. Driving up the prices. Demand is high.

I get the usual items being in demand, but I can't seem to gear my character for crap. Even rare items seem terrible.

I did find an arioc's and

Shako on NL though, so I can't complain there. The ladder drops just seem awful though.

I can't speak for your drops other than RNG is a fickle bitch. But for the higher market prices for core items, it's the higher player count than normal.

Can't speak for the last couple seasons as I skipped those but generally, in past seasons, I sold annis a hell of a lot quicker and for a lot more than in this one. Not sure where you're seeing inflated pricing there.

The ROTW economy is just whacky as ****, and I hate it. What is frustrating, in a way, is unless you have Warlock goods for sale, you are

Sol. If you do have Warlock, enjoy the party. If you are looking for Warlock items, expect to pay an arm, leg, and your future.

I can sell Warlock torch within a minute, weeks now nobody gives a bleep about all the others. If you have an item that can be used for a Warlock (like 3os AP) then congrats. Find a +3 GMD 4os, again good luck selling that.

If you want a Sunder, then it gets really depressing. Want a

Bone Break Renewed, mortgage your house. Jahs are not enough, better have 3/20/20s to trade for them. In the end its kind of frustrating. Sometimes you can get lucky though, a few people are going whacky crazy for PAMES because they want a +2/20 Warlock ammy that they know will set them up for life. So they will overpay. Time is coming soon I will be playing lot less, so I am hoping when I return back in late fall things will be normal. Worst part of this all, keysets which is what I do, trade for them like crazy in the past, are now ridiculously priced, and have priced me out.

cant relate - im doing great.

Speaking as someone who came back for the 1st time since d2r pre-ladder days, it's certainly interesting.

Some things are moving pretty decently, but also, I can definitely see that it's mostly Warlock gear that has any market mobility. Some BiS for niche builds on other characters is not really doing a lot and just sitting on market and dropping price in order to move.

I'm deliberately not relying on trading this ladder. Just working on gear I pick up for the Warlock. I had an inkling this would be the case/scenario. I think everyone is just going to have to wait for the Warlock

Frenzy to close up a bit. The bubble will burst especially when the devs nerf the Warlock's play style/etc.

Morgormir wrote: 11 hours ago

Is it just me, or is the economy absolute trash this season?
Why are annis trading at 2+

Ist?
I get WL Ts being a premium, but Annis? Makes gearing characters a PITA.

Also, drops seem super nerfed. I've done 12+hrs of Hell Cows, and have yet to see anything more than a

Fal. Hell, I haven't seen any decent runes (

Pul-

Um and up) in P8 games. What gives?

Rant over because it's super anecdotal, but I can't remember the last time the economy was this bad.

Also, no decent uniques. I don't mean shakos and arachs, but even stupid stuff like

Peasant Crown and

Tearhaunch. WTF.

Getting an

Ist for anni is actually quite good trade. Annis are worthless unless they are perfect/very near perfect. Personally laying out free annihiluses constantly if there are any in the storage and usually there are a bunch around as I wont get perfect rolls of anything.

Semirotta wrote: 1 hour ago

Morgormir wrote: 11 hours ago

Is it just me, or is the economy absolute trash this season?
Why are annis trading at 2+

Ist?
I get WL Ts being a premium, but Annis? Makes gearing characters a PITA.

Also, drops seem super nerfed. I've done 12+hrs of Hell Cows, and have yet to see anything more than a

Fal. Hell, I haven't seen any decent runes (

Pul-

Um and up) in P8 games. What gives?

Rant over because it's super anecdotal, but I can't remember the last time the economy was this bad.

Also, no decent uniques. I don't mean shakos and arachs, but even stupid stuff like

Peasant Crown and

Tearhaunch. WTF.

Getting an

Ist for anni is actually quite good trade. Annis are worthless unless they are perfect/very near perfect. Personally laying out free annihiluses constantly if there are any in the storage and usually there are a bunch around as I wont get perfect rolls of anything.

I offered a BK Statue for a dumb anni. They didn't want it lol.
I usually throw annis away or hand them out like candy.

Even trying to trade for non-WL items is a PITA. Nobody wants to sell torches or other stuff, it's crazy.

Morgormir wrote: 1 hour ago

Semirotta wrote: 1 hour ago

Morgormir wrote: 11 hours ago

Is it just me, or is the economy absolute trash this season?
Why are annis trading at 2+

Ist?
I get WL Ts being a premium, but Annis? Makes gearing characters a PITA.

Also, drops seem super nerfed. I've done 12+hrs of Hell Cows, and have yet to see anything more than a

Fal. Hell, I haven't seen any decent runes (

Pul-

Um and up) in P8 games. What gives?

Rant over because it's super anecdotal, but I can't remember the last time the economy was this bad.

Also, no decent uniques. I don't mean shakos and arachs, but even stupid stuff like

Peasant Crown and

Tearhaunch. WTF.

Getting an

Ist for anni is actually quite good trade. Annis are worthless unless they are perfect/very near perfect. Personally laying out free annihiluses constantly if there are any in the storage and usually there are a bunch around as I wont get perfect rolls of anything.

I offered a BK Statue for a dumb anni. They didn't want it lol.
I usually throw annis away or hand them out like candy.

Even trying to trade for non-WL items is a PITA. Nobody wants to sell torches or other stuff, it's crazy.

Hah, I can give you anni for BK statue If oyu still need.
But in overall, I agree with DwPvsZtO, We just need to wait next season. When Warlock will be nerfed and less playes will be in game.
For example, I have char on LoD (not warlock DLC) and there trading is real, everyone trying to gead up at somehow.