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Everywhere I look it says up to lvl 19 blizzard for
Snowclash
. Any sane reason this is 20?
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Everywhere I look it says up to lvl 19 blizzard for
Snowclash
. Any sane reason this is 20?
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ShadowHeart 5062Moderator

Paladin Europe PC Playstation
From what I have been able to tell, the level ranges of CtC:s depends on the item level, it's not chosen at random within the range. In the past (before
Terror
zones), no monster except
Baal
was high enough level to be able to drop a
Snowclash
with CtC level 20 Blizzard - so level 19 was more or less the effective
Cap
and one with level 20 was an elusive and extremely rare find - but with
Terror
Zones it's now a more common find. Supposedly anyway.

The same thing would appear to apply to
The Rising Sun
as well, where it sometimes drops with CtC level 20
Meteor
while the range is "supposed" to be 13-19.
The Rising Sun
's
Meteor
proc was discussed here: feedback/the-rising-sun-t1536337.html.

There are more items with CtC level ranges than just these two -
Stormrider
,
Hellslayer
,
Lightsabre
and
Boneslayer Blade
.

I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
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ShadowHeart 5062Moderator

Paladin Europe PC Playstation
The Amazon Basin article about CtC explains how the level is determined within the range:
https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/ind ... kill_level
Chance to Cast normally specifies a set skill level (slvl), however on certain items the slvl depends on the generating source: it is calculated from the item level (ilvl) and the required level (rlvl) of the skill. [3] The table below specifies the ilvl required for a particular slvl, depending on the rlvl of the skill.
The table on the linked page claims that there's no ilvl threshold to roll a level 20 CtC of a skill that has a required level of 24 (which would be both Blizzard and
Meteor
). But it can still can happen, evidently, so I'm guessing the article is either incorrect or missing something.

I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
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ShadowHeart 5062Moderator

Paladin Europe PC Playstation
Okay, I've cleared this up with Pavke, and here's the thing:

The table in the Amazon Basin article is technically correct. Level 19 is supposed to be the maximum level of the Blizard CtC on
Snowclash
. The only way to get a level 20 CtC of req level 24 skills is if the monster that drops it is level 100 or above, and there are no monsters above level 99 that can drop these items. Right? Wrong! There are actually 3 monsters that can exceed level 99 when TZ'd -
Griswold
,
Radament
and
Nihlathak
. Apparently, these 3 superuniques have a hidden +3 level bonus, so when you're playing in a TZ96, uniques & bosses are supposed to be level 99, but these 3 will be level 102.

So, this is a new thing that is a side-effect of high level
Terror
zones and the fact that some superuniques have an extra hidden level bonus on top of the TZ level modifier.

It wasn't possible in LoD pre-D2R either - except maybe in some older patch; There are "stories" on some old LoD forums claiming that it might have been possible back then but it could also just be hearsay, it's hard to verify. Perhaps it was possible at some point, just not in the later LoD patches.

I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
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leox 197

Paladin Asia PC
finally, I was arguing with someone . They keeps told me this is impossible and I told them I saw someone trade it. (That I only see record without image proof)

Favor
Perfect Amethyst
over
Perfect Skull
...
These days, I don't need that much
Perfect Skull
, it is less encourage to pay in
Perfect Skull
but it will treat slightly better than
Perfect Gems
.
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ShadowHeart wrote: 5 hours ago
Okay, I've cleared this up with Pavke, and here's the thing:

The table in the Amazon Basin article is technically correct. Level 19 is supposed to be the maximum level of the Blizard CtC on
Snowclash
. The only way to get a level 20 CtC of req level 24 skills is if the monster that drops it is level 100 or above, and there are no monsters above level 99 that can drop these items. Right? Wrong! There are actually 3 monsters that can exceed level 99 when TZ'd -
Griswold
,
Radament
and
Nihlathak
. Apparently, these 3 superuniques have a hidden +3 level bonus, so when you're playing in a TZ96, uniques & bosses are supposed to be level 99, but these 3 will be level 102.

So, this is a new thing that is a side-effect of high level
Terror
zones and the fact that some superuniques have an extra hidden level bonus on top of the TZ level modifier.

It wasn't possible in LoD pre-D2R either - except maybe in some older patch; There are "stories" on some old LoD forums claiming that it might have been possible back then but it could also just be hearsay, it's hard to verify. Perhaps it was possible at some point, just not in the later LoD patches.
Wow amazing, thanks I was really scratching my head trying to find a true answer. Appreciate you going the extra mile
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